Things You Thought Today - BlueHeronDruid - May 26, 2018 - 8:20pm
 
Trump - kcar - May 26, 2018 - 7:50pm
 
Crazy conspiracy theories - ScottFromWyoming - May 26, 2018 - 7:48pm
 
Strips, cartoons, illustrations - R_P - May 26, 2018 - 7:41pm
 
Baseball, anyone? - spammer - May 26, 2018 - 7:19pm
 
More reggae, less Marley please - R_P - May 26, 2018 - 6:46pm
 
Vinyl Only Spin List - kurtster - May 26, 2018 - 6:03pm
 
Bug Reports & Feature Requests - dxnerd86 - May 26, 2018 - 5:57pm
 
What are you doing RIGHT NOW? - SeriousLee - May 26, 2018 - 5:33pm
 
Name My Band - Antigone - May 26, 2018 - 5:17pm
 
Geldof, Hutchins mess? - jambo - May 26, 2018 - 3:37pm
 
Error: Could not retrieve offline list - Steve - May 26, 2018 - 3:25pm
 
What makes you smile? - Antigone - May 26, 2018 - 1:57pm
 
Favorite Quotes - oldviolin - May 26, 2018 - 1:39pm
 
Freedom of speech? - R_P - May 26, 2018 - 12:56pm
 
What Makes You Laugh? - Steely_D - May 26, 2018 - 12:38pm
 
Counting with Pictures - ScottN - May 26, 2018 - 8:18am
 
That's a terrible idea. Let's do it! - Alexandra - May 26, 2018 - 7:53am
 
YouTube: Music-Videos - SeriousLee - May 26, 2018 - 7:38am
 
Today in History - Red_Dragon - May 26, 2018 - 7:27am
 
Election 2018 - Red_Dragon - May 26, 2018 - 7:15am
 
The war on funk is over! - rhahl - May 26, 2018 - 6:43am
 
What are you listening to now? - SeriousLee - May 26, 2018 - 6:39am
 
TV shows you watch - R_P - May 26, 2018 - 12:54am
 
Those lovable acronym guys & gals - ScottFromWyoming - May 25, 2018 - 9:10pm
 
Free Mp3s - R_P - May 25, 2018 - 5:38pm
 
Gotta Get Your Drink On - Antigone - May 25, 2018 - 3:21pm
 
World Music - rhahl - May 25, 2018 - 2:43pm
 
Things You Thought You Heard Out Loud - Proclivities - May 25, 2018 - 1:57pm
 
Cryptic Posts - Leave Them Guessing - oldviolin - May 25, 2018 - 1:23pm
 
Coffee - Proclivities - May 25, 2018 - 1:11pm
 
Guns - R_P - May 25, 2018 - 12:54pm
 
Mixtape Culture Club - Lazy8 - May 25, 2018 - 12:42pm
 
Way Cool Video - SeriousLee - May 25, 2018 - 12:22pm
 
Bad Poetry - oldviolin - May 25, 2018 - 12:13pm
 
how do you feel right now? - SeriousLee - May 25, 2018 - 11:44am
 
What Did You Do Today? - SeriousLee - May 25, 2018 - 11:09am
 
deleting/editing comments function gone - sirdroseph - May 25, 2018 - 10:51am
 
Radio Paradise Comments - Chwkbud - May 25, 2018 - 10:48am
 
North Korea - cc_rider - May 25, 2018 - 9:17am
 
Nature's Creatures - Proclivities - May 25, 2018 - 9:14am
 
Memorial Day - cc_rider - May 25, 2018 - 8:14am
 
songs that ROCK! - sirdroseph - May 25, 2018 - 2:23am
 
Would you drive this car for dating with ur girl? - haresfur - May 24, 2018 - 10:17pm
 
Positive Thoughts and Prayer Requests - AliGator - May 24, 2018 - 9:06pm
 
Race in America - R_P - May 24, 2018 - 6:33pm
 
Live Music - kurtster - May 24, 2018 - 6:30pm
 
Pernicious Pious Proclivities Particularized Prodigiously - R_P - May 24, 2018 - 4:13pm
 
Things that piss me off - Antigone - May 24, 2018 - 2:59pm
 
New Music - ptooey - May 24, 2018 - 2:02pm
 
Art Show - oldviolin - May 24, 2018 - 1:16pm
 
Animal Resistance - Proclivities - May 24, 2018 - 1:10pm
 
Military Matters - R_P - May 24, 2018 - 1:03pm
 
Annoying stuff. not things that piss you off, just annoyi... - sirdroseph - May 24, 2018 - 11:37am
 
Afghanistan - R_P - May 24, 2018 - 10:28am
 
Photos you haven't taken of yourself - Antigone - May 24, 2018 - 10:19am
 
Books read recently - islander - May 24, 2018 - 9:48am
 
illegal immigrants - meower - May 24, 2018 - 7:16am
 
The Truth Unfolds - Red_Dragon - May 23, 2018 - 6:15pm
 
Breaking News - R_P - May 23, 2018 - 10:49am
 
Celebrity Deaths - GeneP59 - May 23, 2018 - 9:16am
 
Celebrity Face Recognition - Proclivities - May 23, 2018 - 6:56am
 
Environmental, Brilliance or Stupidity - miamizsun - May 23, 2018 - 5:04am
 
Latin Music - R_P - May 23, 2018 - 12:24am
 
The Obituary Page - ScottN - May 22, 2018 - 8:54pm
 
BACK TO THE 80's - R_P - May 22, 2018 - 7:16pm
 
How To Be Politically Correct, A Primer - R_P - May 22, 2018 - 4:09pm
 
oh boy CAKE! - haresfur - May 22, 2018 - 2:49pm
 
what about those emo kids? - Proclivities - May 22, 2018 - 11:27am
 
When are you too old to drive? - meower - May 22, 2018 - 10:27am
 
Back to the 00's - rhahl - May 22, 2018 - 10:21am
 
XPRIZE & Singularity University - miamizsun - May 22, 2018 - 4:12am
 
Milk squirting in Turkey??? - miamizsun - May 22, 2018 - 4:06am
 
Your Current Crush - Alexandra - May 21, 2018 - 11:12pm
 
Immigration - haresfur - May 21, 2018 - 11:11pm
 
Index » Radio Paradise/General » General Discussion » To me , Torture is ............ Page: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next
Post to this Topic
sunybuny
Warm & sunny
sunybuny Avatar

Location: The West & Best Coast of FLA
Gender: Female


Posted: May 15, 2018 - 1:04pm

 Beanie wrote: 
AMEN !!!!
ScottFromWyoming
I eat pints
ScottFromWyoming Avatar

Location: Powell
Gender: Male
Zodiac: Pisces
Chinese Yr: Tiger


Posted: May 15, 2018 - 1:02pm

 
Beanie

Beanie Avatar

Location: under the jellicle moon
Gender: Female
Zodiac: Aries
Chinese Yr: Snake


Posted: May 15, 2018 - 12:58pm

Tori Amos, Battle of Trees


maryte
It's a mystery to me
maryte Avatar

Location: Blinding You With Library Science!
Gender: Female
Zodiac: Capricorn
Chinese Yr: Buffalo


Posted: May 15, 2018 - 12:52pm

  • That damned extra space after "me" and before the comma
  • That the "t" in "torture" is unnecessarily capitalized
  • And that there are too many periods following "is" - should simply be the three used to form an ellipsis 

GeneP59
PROUD 2 B FROM BOSTON!
GeneP59 Avatar

Location: On the edge of tomorrow looking back at yesterday.
Gender: Male
Zodiac: Capricorn
Chinese Yr: Rat


Posted: May 15, 2018 - 9:45am

 Manbird wrote:

Mags dying, but I'm barely feeling anything. A few years ago I used to claw my eyeballs out and sneeze until the streets ran red  with blood and mucous. But not so much this year. 

 
You are lucky {#Wave}

Sunday was the worse that I've felt in decade. Today we are supposed to get nasty T-Storms which I hope will wash away it all. Not feeling bad today with all the concoctions i'm mixing up {#Eek}
Manbird
Offal Makes Me Strong! Strong! Strong! W
Manbird Avatar

Location: Oroville, Ca
Gender: Male
Zodiac: Virgo


Posted: May 13, 2018 - 3:36pm

 GeneP59 wrote:
HAYFEVER!  {#Cry}

 
Mags dying, but I'm barely feeling anything. A few years ago I used to claw my eyeballs out and sneeze until the streets ran red  with blood and mucous. But not so much this year. 
Manbird
Offal Makes Me Strong! Strong! Strong! W
Manbird Avatar

Location: Oroville, Ca
Gender: Male
Zodiac: Virgo


Posted: May 13, 2018 - 3:31pm

Ssitting. I just got my new ass pad from amazon and it fell great for the first
ten minute but it's starting to really hurt again. Sitting is what wrecked my
back and and now I find myself having to sit for 10 hours a day or more
seven days a week. The pain almost brings tears to my ganglia but at least
I'm working again. Not getting paid for it, but working.  That feels good
some days when the little cha-ching extension goes off when I make a sale.
I'm averaging one a day and everybody else at my level is doing at least 3
times that. 
BlueHeronDruid

BlueHeronDruid Avatar

Location: planting flowers


Posted: May 13, 2018 - 3:21pm

 SeriousLee wrote:
Buying a new car. {#Lol}

 
A tale from the RAFT!
GeneP59
PROUD 2 B FROM BOSTON!
GeneP59 Avatar

Location: On the edge of tomorrow looking back at yesterday.
Gender: Male
Zodiac: Capricorn
Chinese Yr: Rat


Posted: May 13, 2018 - 3:13pm

HAYFEVER!  {#Cry}
SeriousLee

SeriousLee Avatar

Location: Dans l'milieu d'deux milles livres


Posted: May 13, 2018 - 2:10pm

Buying a new car. {#Lol}
R_P
Oînk, oînk, OÎNK!
R_P Avatar



Posted: May 13, 2018 - 1:03pm


Comey
R_P
Oînk, oînk, OÎNK!
R_P Avatar



Posted: May 12, 2018 - 10:25pm

Intercepted Podcast: Just Following Orders
(...) Archival Newsreel: Before an international tribunal, holding court in the former war ministry in Tokyo, come the war-time leaders of Japan to be indicted as criminals.

JS: In the aftermath of World War II, the United States and its allies organized a series of war crimes tribunals to prosecute their vanquished enemies from Germany and Japan. The trials that were held at Nuremberg in Germany are probably the best-known of these. In Japan, it was the International Military Tribunal for the Far East — better known as the Tokyo Trials. And if you read some of the charging documents from these cases that were brought against Japanese military officers, soldiers, others, you might notice that among the war crimes charges was a technique referred to as water torture or water cure. This was a practice that the Japanese used against prisoners, including American POWs, and this practice involved holding down or immobilizing a prisoner and then dousing their open mouth or their nostrils with water. It simulated drowning and a sensation of dying.

The historian R. John Pritchard described the Japanese rational for using this water torture. He wrote, “The rapid and effective collection of intelligence then, as now, was seen as vital to a successful struggle, and in addition, those who were engaged in torture often felt that whatever pain and anguish was suffered by the victims of torture was nothing less than the just deserts of the victims or people close to them.”

Several Japanese military figures were executed for their role in water torture and other acts, others were sentenced to prison labor camps. Here’s Senator John McCain, himself a victim of torture as a POW in Vietnam.

Scott Pelley: Is waterboarding torture?

Senator John McCain: Sure. Yes. Without a doubt.

SP: So the United States has been torturing POWs.

JM: Yes. Scott, we prosecuted Japanese war criminals after World War II, and one of the charges brought against them, for which they were convicted, was that they waterboarded Americans.

JS: Again, what Senator John McCain is talking about here, took place in tribunals established by the U.S. and its allies. And here’s just a couple of examples of the charges that were presented at these trials, and I’m quoting: “In or about July or August 1943, the accused Yukio Asano, did willfully and unlawfully, brutally mistreat and torture Morris O. Killough, an American Prisoner of War, by beating and kicking him, by fastening him on a stretcher and pouring water up his nostrils.”

Another described the torture of, and I’m quoting: “John Henry Burton, an American Prisoner of War, by beating him, and by fastening him head down-ward on a stretcher and forcing water into his nose.”

The Japanese soldier who did these things was sentenced to 15 years of hard labor. But his official job description was interpreter. He was just following orders. That’s what he said.

Steve Doocy: So it’s all going to be about what happened regarding the waterboarding. Just keep in mind — whatever she did when she was in power at that point, she was doing it as a directive and it was all within the law.

Ainsley Earhardt: Right, doing what she was told to do.

JS: In related news, Trump’s pick to head the Central Intelligence Agency, Gina Haspel, is in the midst of her confirmation process and Haspel was just following orders to when she was involved with what the Japanese called water torture.

That is one of the lines being pushed by her CIA defenders: that what she did was lawful, she was ordered to do it, she wasn’t really in charge, she’s an apolitical professional. I’m sure there are lots of people from all sorts of countries and nations throughout history that view their role in torture the exact same way that Haspel and her defenders view it. I’m sure there are many Nazis that could have pointed to laws created in their own country to permit the heinous acts that they committed. But the tribunal said no, just following orders is not a defense.

But, you see, the United States doesn’t believe in international tribunals for its personnel. The men who dropped the atomic bombs on Japan? They were heroes, just like the CIA officers who ran black sites, oversaw kidnapping operations and, yes, waterboarded prisoners. They were just doing their jobs. The fact that they were doing it for America means that it’s right: Our waterboarding is different than the Japanese waterboarding. Why? Well, because we’re doing it. (...)

Red_Dragon

Red_Dragon Avatar



Posted: Dec 20, 2014 - 1:44pm

 ScottN wrote:

Yeah, and conference calls constitute a meeting, and who the F likes those?  Difficult to make a discreet absence.

 
The ones I'm referring to don't involve me other than to piss me off.
Lazy8
human
Lazy8 Avatar

Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana
Gender: Male


Posted: Dec 20, 2014 - 12:46pm

Red_Dragon wrote:
You can expect a visit now. Been nice knowin' ya.

I'd really like to know who they thought they were investigating. It can't have taken long to realize that this was a blind alley but I'd like to know who they suspected.
ScottN
We're all riders on this train
ScottN Avatar

Location: Half inch above the K/T boundary
Gender: Male
Zodiac: Aries
Chinese Yr: Buffalo


Posted: Dec 20, 2014 - 10:01am

 Red_Dragon wrote:

I think my favorite is the conference call on speaker. It's about as close I come to losing my pacifism.

 
Yeah, and conference calls constitute a meeting, and who the F likes those?  Difficult to make a discreet absence.


Red_Dragon

Red_Dragon Avatar



Posted: Dec 20, 2014 - 9:50am

 Lazy8 wrote:
You're thinking of the Idaho panhandle, tho we have our share. Notably the Unabomber, But not a lot of black Muslims.

The tidbit caught my eye because there's a chance I'd know some of those who came under suspicion. I mean, they're not black, but if you squint just right...

 
You can expect a visit now. Been nice knowin' ya.
Lazy8
human
Lazy8 Avatar

Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana
Gender: Male


Posted: Dec 20, 2014 - 9:11am

RichardPrins wrote:
Isn't Montana the hotbed of rugged radicals working on nefarious projects in their sheds?

You're thinking of the Idaho panhandle, tho we have our share. Notably the Unabomber, But not a lot of black Muslims.

The tidbit caught my eye because there's a chance I'd know some of those who came under suspicion. I mean, they're not black, but if you squint just right...
Red_Dragon

Red_Dragon Avatar



Posted: Dec 20, 2014 - 7:18am

 miamizsun wrote:

isolationist 


seriously i'm not nearly as efficient when i have constant distractions


who is?

people talking on the phone and with each other or worse asking me questions...


 
I think my favorite is the conference call on speaker. It's about as close I come to losing my pacifism.
miamizsun

miamizsun Avatar

Location: (3261.3 Miles SE of RP)
Gender: Male


Posted: Dec 20, 2014 - 7:14am

 Red_Dragon wrote:
Cube farms.

 
isolationist 


seriously i'm not nearly as efficient when i have constant distractions


who is?

people talking on the phone and with each other or worse asking me questions...



Red_Dragon

Red_Dragon Avatar



Posted: Dec 20, 2014 - 6:43am

Cube farms.
Page: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8  Next