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Posted: Nov 10, 2017 - 10:06am

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My Father always said that when things got bad I was always at my best. I'm not so sure sometimes, but I loved and trusted my Father so I'm just going to run with it.

 
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Posted: Nov 10, 2017 - 8:13am

My Father always said that when things got bad I was always at my best. I'm not so sure sometimes, but I loved and trusted my Father so I'm just going to run with it.


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Posted: Nov 9, 2017 - 4:15pm

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But how will I get my work done?

 
A valid point.
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Posted: Nov 9, 2017 - 1:47pm

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But how will I get my work done?
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Posted: Nov 9, 2017 - 9:56am

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Why am I hesitant to click on this out of anxiety of being rick-rolled?

 
When will you stop this paranoia? Probably never... yeah, you're never gonna give that up...
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Posted: Nov 9, 2017 - 9:52am

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Why am I hesitant to click on this out of anxiety of being rick-rolled?

 
{#Lol} It's not a Rick-Roll.
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Why am I hesitant to click on this out of anxiety of being rick-rolled?

 

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Posted: Nov 9, 2017 - 9:45am

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Why am I hesitant to click on this out of anxiety of being rick-rolled?
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Posted: Nov 9, 2017 - 9:20am

Scientists identify mechanism that helps us inhibit unwanted thoughts
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Posted: Aug 10, 2011 - 4:15pm

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That certainly doesn't jibe with any information I have sourced over the past year.
 
All I can say is that it does jibe with the physicians who diagnosed and continue to treat my condition effectively.

Before that, one PCP tried treating me with an antidepressant that had some effect against "anxiety", with no effect.

Since then a PCP tried treating me with an alpha blocker, promising that it "would work better" and "not have side-effects" compared to Xanax.  Again, no effect, except that it did have side-effects and they were unacceptable.

Clearly Medicine is still is in the early stages of understanding what they call "panic attacks".  I might still be undiagnosed if I hadn't taken it upon myself to see a specialist.

I have never cared for the use of the word "panic" since this has never caused me to panic.  But I believe it's less important to argue semantics, and more important to work with health care professionals to be diagnosed correctly, treated effectively and hopefully be cured.


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Posted: Aug 10, 2011 - 4:02pm

All of this type about the meaning of words is making me anxious.
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Posted: Aug 10, 2011 - 2:48pm

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No, that's not true.  Any legitimate medical professional will tell you that medicine is an imperfect science (it's a standard disclaimer).  So pat answers like that aren't medical in nature.  As we all should know, not everything that you read on the Internet is true.

The condition that the medical community calls "panic attacks" is a disorder of the sympathetic nervous system, not the limbic system.  That's not to say that emotionally-rooted symptoms are any less real.  They just aren't panic attacks, that's all.

 
That certainly doesn't jibe with any information I have sourced over the past year.

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Posted: Aug 10, 2011 - 2:48pm

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Hey I'm a professional too, just a different kind.
 
And I know this is a grammar question but is it

un-professsional or unprofessional? I'm having business cards made up.

 
My apologies, JL.  {#Notworthy} I meant a pro in this field.{#Lol}
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Posted: Aug 10, 2011 - 2:45pm

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FYI - Meowie is a professional.  As far as I know, the only one commenting here.
 

Hey I'm a professional too, just a different kind.
 
And I know this is a grammar question but is it

un-professsional or unprofessional? I'm having business cards made up.


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Posted: Aug 10, 2011 - 2:40pm

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FYI - Meowie is a professional.  As far as I know, the only one commenting here.


 


Thanks- I know she's a pro!!I. It actually clicked seeing it written in black & white.
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Posted: Aug 10, 2011 - 2:37pm

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Thanks for putting this so succinctly. I've put in my time on the couch but I never really grasped the whole "just being with it" idea. It makes sense though.

 
FYI - Meowie is a professional.  As far as I know, the only one commenting here.

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Posted: Aug 10, 2011 - 2:33pm

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Interesting idea.... my first thought is that it sort of goes against most treatments for anxiety/panic to "do" something to "stop" the attack...... I'm thinking that the idea that something needs to be done to stop the attack reinforces the idea that you must stop the attack as opposed to the more common treatment option of "being" with the panic, breathing into the panic, recognizing the panic as a normal part of one's psyche and as something that "will too pass."

2cents.

 


Thanks for putting this so succinctly. I've put in my time on the couch but I never really grasped the whole "just being with it" idea. It makes sense though.
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Posted: Aug 10, 2011 - 2:25pm

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Panic attacks come from the amygdala becoming activated.
 
No, that's not true.  Any legitimate medical professional will tell you that medicine is an imperfect science (it's a standard disclaimer).  So pat answers like that aren't medical in nature.  As we all should know, not everything that you read on the Internet is true.

The condition that the medical community calls "panic attacks" is a disorder of the sympathetic nervous system, not the limbic system.  That's not to say that emotionally-rooted symptoms are any less real.  They just aren't panic attacks, that's all.


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Posted: Aug 10, 2011 - 2:03pm

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{#Whisper}  Panic attacks aren't manifestations of fear.  They aren't like bad dreams, and aren't necessarily triggered by scary thoughts or bad memories.  Panic attacks are most often physiological in nature, and rarely psychological.  Although a chronic sufferer may recall places and situations where past attacks have happened, it's not the places or situations that are the cause.  PTSD is the only notable exception.

As one who suffers from panic attacks myself, I know more than a little about them.  Mine originally came during times of normal stress, times where a slightly heightened alertness was required.  They were so mild that I didn't even consider the term "panic attack" to describe them, even after I was diagnosed.  Lately my attacks tend to come out of the blue without any warning, often interrupting moments of great tranquility.  The best way I can describe the experience is "an unwanted surge of adrenaline at inappropriate times".  For me, taking a prophylactic dose of Xanax at regularly scheduled intervals totally stops the attacks.

I'm dubious about this "dive reflex".  I've been an active swimmer for most of my life, and have never been put into a stupor because of getting wet.  If anything, my desire to remain alive prompts me to return to dry land lest I lose consciousness in the water.  Hypothermia is a real danger, but it does not require the presence of water.

My advice is to talk to your physician about any concerns you might have.

 
Panic attacks come from the amygdala becoming activated. However, for some (like myself) they can also come during times of stress. As I said, take what you want from this information.

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Posted: Aug 10, 2011 - 1:59pm

 hippiechick wrote:
It's also possible that splashing water on your face brings you back to presence and gets you out of the story that is causing the panic attack to begin with.
 
{#Whisper}  Panic attacks aren't manifestations of fear.  They aren't like bad dreams, and aren't necessarily triggered by scary thoughts or bad memories.  Panic attacks are most often physiological in nature, and rarely psychological.  Although a chronic sufferer may recall places and situations where past attacks have happened, it's not the places or situations that are the cause.  PTSD is the only notable exception.

As one who suffers from panic attacks myself, I know more than a little about them.  Mine originally came during times of normal stress, times where a slightly heightened alertness was required.  They were so mild that I didn't even consider the term "panic attack" to describe them, even after I was diagnosed.  Lately my attacks tend to come out of the blue without any warning, often interrupting moments of great tranquility.  The best way I can describe the experience is "an unwanted surge of adrenaline at inappropriate times".  For me, taking a prophylactic dose of Xanax at regularly scheduled intervals totally stops the attacks.

I'm dubious about this "dive reflex".  I've been an active swimmer for most of my life, and have never been put into a stupor because of getting wet.  If anything, my desire to remain alive prompts me to return to dry land lest I lose consciousness in the water.  Hypothermia is a real danger, but it does not require the presence of water.

My advice is to talk to your physician about any concerns you might have.


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