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Posted: Dec 4, 2017 - 7:04am

what are rights?

where do they come from?

and the different types?

{#Whisper} for some i might expect that their ideological immune system will kick in and certain words could interfere with their use of logic and reason
i'm re-posting these on the chance that one person will watch   {#Wink}












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Posted: Oct 24, 2017 - 2:44pm

a lot of young folks could learn something from this...


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Posted: Aug 3, 2017 - 11:29am

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Jay Stuart Snelson, professional speaker and creator of The V-50 Lectures and Win-Win Theory, speaks at Libertopia 2010 on "Win-Win Theory on Optimizing the Causes of Peace, Prosperity, and Freedom"
 
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Posted: Aug 2, 2017 - 11:47am



Jay Stuart Snelson, professional speaker and creator of The V-50 Lectures and Win-Win Theory, speaks at Libertopia 2010 on "Win-Win Theory on Optimizing the Causes of Peace, Prosperity, and Freedom"

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Posted: Oct 3, 2016 - 6:38am

great lectures on using science/scientific method with human action

i was fortunate enough to get digital copies of his early lectures dating back to the seventies as well as his newer material

there are some (entire seminar) from the late nineties still available on the website

and the first three lectures are free on youtube (see below)

a pdf explaining his latter work

highly recommended
Jay Stuart Snelson spent his life observing, researching, writing, and lecturing about freedom. Why have humans been unable to obtain and sustain a peaceful, prosperous existence? Why have we been stuck in a rut of war, poverty, and misery for millennia? Listening to the Human Action Principle lectures takes time. Learning physics takes time. In the end you are glad to gain new knowledge. These lectures are The Blueprint for building a peaceful and prosperous social structure worldwide. Take some time. Listen.




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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 - 9:24am

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Selective Morality and Spiritual Hopscotch appears to be politically convenient for many.

 

Indeed which was my original point.
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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 - 9:24am

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Selective Morality and Spiritual Hopscotch appears to be politically convenient for many.

 
Indeed, but to inhabit the end product of dead reasoning is to propagate a state of irrelevance.
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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 - 9:23am

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Just glancing, I think she was making the point that the original headline was casting a shaming light on Iran for stoning to death a women on Human Rights day, while we (a UN member, thus presumably a tacit support of this human rights thing) have executed several dozen of our own. I didn't see religion mentioned in either instance, you brought that along.

I did see race mentioned though, and gender. I waffle quite a bit on the death penalty as a punishment, but with the way our 'justice' system works I definitely have issues with executions. Until we can get a handle on at least a pretense of a fair and equal justice system, taking lives of offenders needs to be off the table.  Human rights - applies to all humans, regardless of race, creed, color, economic status, or any other differentiator.

 

I actually see capital punishment in the same light; it has never been a very big issue with me personally because I know that sentencing people to death is not really a deterrent at all unless a killer is released early for some reason and kills again but I imagine that does not happen often because usually the heinous offense is met with at least a life sentence or at least I hope so.   As far as the UN goes, not a big fan of them or most of the countries governments who constitute their membership with the US being one of the biggest hypocrites as you and Meow so correctly noted.  Nobody listens to them and quite frankly civilization is nowhere near evolved enough to implement justice and individual human rights to so many sovereign nations with their own agenda.  The results of trying are worse than if they didn't even exist imo.   In other words both Iran's theocracy and US hypocritical finger wagging whilst meddling and bombing its way through the Middle East and Africa can suck it.


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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 - 9:17am

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yes. It was a UN thing. I think it's interesting when people decide that they UN is relevant and when it is not.

and yes also to your second point as well.

 
Selective Morality and Spiritual Hopscotch appears to be politically convenient for many.
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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 - 9:16am

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yes. It was a UN thing. I think it's interesting when people decide that they UN is relevant and when it is not.

 
I think that was the point Fox News was attempting to make with their provocative headline - that the UN is not relevant because there was a stoning in Iran, on Human Rights Day, and the UN could not prevent it.  It was their attempt at irony by connecting simultaneous-yet-unrelated events.  It's sort of like having a headline that reads  "Bearded Man Mails Package on Ted Kaczynski's 73rd Birthday".
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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 - 9:03am

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I was just going to post "I'm with meower", but it felt like it needed a few more words.

 

and they were good words too. I do appreciate you clarifying my our position


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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 - 8:46am

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yes. It was a UN thing. I think it's interesting when people decide that they UN is relevant and when it is not.

and yes also to your second point as well.

 



 
I was just going to post "I'm with meower", but it felt like it needed a few more words.
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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 - 8:44am

 islander wrote:

Just glancing, I think she was making the point that the original headline was casting a shaming light on Iran for stoning to death a women on Human Rights day, while we (a UN member, thus presumably a tacit support of this human rights thing) have executed several dozen of our own. I didn't see religion mentioned in either instance, you brought that along.

I did see race mentioned though, and gender. I waffle quite a bit on the death penalty as a punishment, but with the way our 'justice' system works I definitely have issues with executions. Until we can get a handle on at least a pretense of a fair and equal justice system, taking lives of offenders needs to be off the table.  Human rights - applies to all humans, regardless of race, creed, color, economic status, or any other differentiator.

 
yes. It was a UN thing. I think it's interesting when people decide that they UN is relevant and when it is not.

and yes also to your second point as well.

 


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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 - 8:41am

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Would love to see a list of Muslim executions for the same time period, but also including the offense of the defendant.  I can only assume that you posted that either to make the point that we are just as bad as the Muslim Theocracies in regards to human rights violations by applying the death penalty or that you are standing up for them because if we do it, then it must be ok.  Either way, I fully respect those that are against the government undertaking the role of taking life, but do differientate between a society that would stone a woman to death in a public square for infidelity or not properly covering up as opposed to lethal injection of a convicted murderer.   Context does matter, I have always been consistent of my criticism and quite frankly borderline disdain of the pious hypocritical ultra religious who have no problem quashing individual freedom and minority rights regardless of the religion.   Why is it ok for neo liberals to bash (rightfully so) hypocritical evangelical Christians, but when it comes to conservative Mulsims,  not only giving them a pass ,but even defending them for the exact same beliefs and persecution of women and minorities?  I swear I just don't get it.{#Stupid}

 
Just glancing, I think she was making the point that the original headline was casting a shaming light on Iran for stoning to death a women on Human Rights day, while we (a UN member, thus presumably a tacit support of this human rights thing) have executed several dozen of our own. I didn't see religion mentioned in either instance, you brought that along.

I did see race mentioned though, and gender. I waffle quite a bit on the death penalty as a punishment, but with the way our 'justice' system works I definitely have issues with executions. Until we can get a handle on at least a pretense of a fair and equal justice system, taking lives of offenders needs to be off the table.  Human rights - applies to all humans, regardless of race, creed, color, economic status, or any other differentiator.
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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 - 8:32am

Would love to see a list of Muslim executions for the same time period, but also including the offense of the defendant.  I can only assume that you posted that either to make the point that we are just as bad as the Muslim Theocracies in regards to human rights violations by applying the death penalty or that you are standing up for them because if we do it, then it must be ok.  Either way, I fully respect those that are against the government undertaking the role of taking life, but do differientate between a society that would stone a woman to death in a public square for infidelity or not properly covering up as opposed to lethal injection of a convicted murderer.   Context does matter, I have always been consistent of my criticism and quite frankly borderline disdain of the pious hypocritical ultra religious who have no problem quashing individual freedom and minority rights regardless of the religion.   Why is it ok for neo liberals to bash (rightfully so) hypocritical evangelical Christians, but when it comes to conservative Muslims,  not only giving them a pass ,but even defending them for the exact same beliefs and persecution of women and minorities?  I swear I just don't get it.{#Stupid}


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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 - 8:07am

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Execution List 2015

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DATENUMBER
SINCE 1976
STATENAMEAGERACEVICTIM RACEMETHODDRUG PROTOCOLYEARS FROM
SENTENCE TO
EXECUTION
1/13/151395GAAndrew Brannan66White1 WhiteLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)15
1/15/151396FLJohnny Kormondy42White1 WhiteLethal Injection3-drug (midazolam)21
1/15/151397OKCharles Warner46Black1 BlackLethal Injection3-drug (midazolam, pancurionium bromide, potassium acetate)17
1/21/151398TXArnold Prieto41Latino2 Latino, 1 WhiteLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)20
1/27/151399GAWarren Hill54Black1 WhiteLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)25
1/29/151400TXRobert Ladd57Black1 WhiteLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)28
2/4/151401TXDonald Newbury52White1 WhiteLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)15
2/11/151402MOWalter Storey47White1 WhiteLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)24
3/11/151403TXManuel Vasquez46Latino1 LatinoLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)16
3/17/151404MOCecil Clayton74White1 WhiteLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)18
4/9/151405TXKent Sprouse42White1 White, 1 LatinoLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)11
4/14/151406MOAndre Cole52Black1 BlackLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)14
4/15/151407TXManuel Garza34Latino1 LatinoLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)13
5/12/151408TXDerrick Charles32Black3 BlackLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)12
6/3/151409TXLester Bower67White4 WhiteLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)31
6/9/151410MORichard Strong48Black2 BlackLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)12
6/18/151411TXGregory Russeau45Black1 WhiteLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)14
7/14/151412MODavid Zink55White1 WhiteLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)11
8/12/151413TXDaniel Lopez*27Latino1 WhiteLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)5
9/1/151414MORoderick Nunley50Black1 WhiteLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)24
9/30/151415GAKelly Gissendanerƒ47White1 WhiteLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)16
10/1/151416VAAlfredo Prieto~49Latino2 WhiteLethal Injection3-drug (pentobarbital)4
10/7/151417TXJuan Garcia35Latino1 LatinoLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)15
10/14/151418TXLicho Escamilla33Latino1 WhiteLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)12
10/29/151419FLJerry Correll59White4 WhiteLethal Injection3-drug (midazolam)29
11/18/151420TXRaphael Holiday36Black3 BlackLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)13
11/19/151421GAMarcus Johnson50White1 WhiteLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)17
12/9/151422GABrian Keith Terrell47Black1 BlackLethal Injection1-drug (pentobarbital)20

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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 - 7:46am

Iranian woman to be stoned to death as world marks UN 'Human Rights Day'


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Posted: Dec 16, 2015 - 4:20am

please pay close attention...




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Posted: Nov 14, 2013 - 5:32am

i mean who can't appreciate a free forced sterilization?

California was sterilizing its female prisoners as late as 2010

California banned force sterilizations in 1979, but as recently as 2010, female inmates in the state were getting the procedure



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Posted: May 14, 2013 - 7:11am

oldie but goody...


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