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Posted: Nov 17, 2017 - 6:46pm

 Kaw wrote:
Found this inspirational: https://imgur.com/gallery/1w87a

 
Yep, that guy has been down a pretty jacked up road.  Thanks for sharing.

it's really just weed and beer for me though, dude.  Too much of it, granted.  Way to hit it out of the park with this reference. 
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Posted: Nov 17, 2017 - 4:04am

Found this inspirational: https://imgur.com/gallery/1w87a
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Posted: Nov 12, 2017 - 3:54pm

 haresfur wrote:

Um, what's wrong with getting that?

 
Not a thing.
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Posted: Nov 10, 2017 - 3:16pm

 FourFortyEight wrote:

Lonliness, loss, PTSD, tired, bored, etc.  Lots of reasons.  I get what you're saying.  Good ideas and thank you for your input.  Really.

I can't make myself get in bed if my head won't stop. Some nights, a few beers and a bowl will get me there.  If I tried it sober, well... I'd probably need a doctor's help, honestly.  

I feel myself getting closer.  I'd love for a successful story to end up within this thread.   

 
Um, what's wrong with getting that?
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Posted: Nov 10, 2017 - 8:37am



I feel myself getting closer.  I'd love for a successful story to end up within this thread.   

 
{#Good-vibes}
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Posted: Nov 8, 2017 - 5:09pm

 Kaw wrote:
Although i am not a person that is sensitive for addiction I consider myself a frail person for other reasons. It's more in the direction of depression and sort of intense destructive preoccupation (if that's the correct word) into certain subjects.

I failed doing the self improvement methods. It's not my inner strength. For me the things that helped the most was changing my social environment. I left the toxic environment I grew up in and had the luck to find love. I married her, changed my work and bought a house in a different part of the country.
Having a wife and kids helps me being focused on the more constructive parts of life and they are basically my reason to live.
I must say I am really happy with my life.

But I am aware that I was 'lucky' from an atheist point of view. I believe in God and I like to think that He is responsible for the Forrest Gumpian life story I experienced.

If I was in a position to give advice (which I am aware that this most likely not the case for your situation) I would ask myself what's causing the destructive needs. For me the preoccupation was a way to flee the harsh reality of the miserable life I was living. I believe for most of the addictions this is more or less the same. Why don't you like your life? What can be changed? What's in your power to change? Who can help you to change certain things?
I think creating better living conditions will help you to keep away from your addictions. Cleaning your house might help for example. Reactivate a hobby you had to meet people and avoid social isolation. The breakfast was a good example how you broke away from the killing loneliness.
Go to bed at 10 and go out of bed at 7. Every day. It really helps. Predictable patterns in your life are boring but it's good against depression and destructive habits.
There are a lot more of these little things that combined might give the change you need. A good psych or someone with experience on this subject might help you with this.

I wish you the best of luck.

"We've been searching for our whole lives.
And we have traveled through unexplainable stories.
Swear to God I fought the good fight,
always waiting for the coming of morning.
And I heard the Captain say, I heard the Captain say,
"The more I know, the less I'm knowing."
And I heard the Captain say, I heard the Captain say,
"Activate your force-fields and just keep going..."
Cloud Cult — The Mission: Unexplainable Stories


 
Lonliness, loss, PTSD, tired, bored, etc.  Lots of reasons.  I get what you're saying.  Good ideas and thank you for your input.  Really.

I can't make myself get in bed if my head won't stop. Some nights, a few beers and a bowl will get me there.  If I tried it sober, well... I'd probably need a doctor's help, honestly.  

I feel myself getting closer.  I'd love for a successful story to end up within this thread.   
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Posted: Nov 8, 2017 - 8:38am

 Kaw wrote:
Go to bed at 10 and go out of bed at 7. Every day. It really helps. 
 
I've got to focus on this. My sleep routine is {there isn't one}.
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Posted: Nov 8, 2017 - 6:30am

 Kaw wrote:
Although i am not a person that is sensitive for addiction I consider myself a frail person for other reasons. It's more in the direction of depression and sort of intense destructive preoccupation (if that's the correct word) into certain subjects.

I failed doing the self improvement methods. It's not my inner strength. For me the things that helped the most was changing my social environment. I left the toxic environment I grew up in and had the luck to find love. I married her, changed my work and bought a house in a different part of the country.
Having a wife and kids helps me being focused on the more constructive parts of life and they are basically my reason to live.
I must say I am really happy with my life.

But I am aware that I was 'lucky' from an atheist point of view. I believe in God and I like to think that He is responsible for the Forrest Gumpian life story I experienced.

If I was in a position to give advice (which I am aware that this most likely not the case for your situation) I would ask myself what's causing the destructive needs. For me the preoccupation was a way to flee the harsh reality of the miserable life I was living. I believe for most of the addictions this is more or less the same. Why don't you like your life? What can be changed? What's in your power to change? Who can help you to change certain things?
I think creating better living conditions will help you to keep away from your addictions. Cleaning your house might help for example. Reactivate a hobby you had to meet people and avoid social isolation. The breakfast was a good example how you broke away from the killing loneliness.
Go to bed at 10 and go out of bed at 7. Every day. It really helps. Predictable patterns in your life are boring but it's good against depression and destructive habits.
There are a lot more of these little things that combined might give the change you need. A good psych or someone with experience on this subject might help you with this.

I wish you the best of luck.

"We've been searching for our whole lives.
And we have traveled through unexplainable stories.
Swear to God I fought the good fight,
always waiting for the coming of morning.
And I heard the Captain say, I heard the Captain say,
"The more I know, the less I'm knowing."
And I heard the Captain say, I heard the Captain say,
"Activate your force-fields and just keep going..."
Cloud Cult — The Mission: Unexplainable Stories


 

Kaw

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Posted: Nov 8, 2017 - 2:53am

Although i am not a person that is sensitive for addiction I consider myself a frail person for other reasons. It's more in the direction of depression and sort of intense destructive preoccupation (if that's the correct word) into certain subjects.

I failed doing the self improvement methods. It's not my inner strength. For me the things that helped the most was changing my social environment. I left the toxic environment I grew up in and had the luck to find love. I married her, changed my work and bought a house in a different part of the country.
Having a wife and kids helps me being focused on the more constructive parts of life and they are basically my reason to live.
I must say I am really happy with my life.

But I am aware that I was 'lucky' from an atheist point of view. I believe in God and I like to think that He is responsible for the Forrest Gumpian life story I experienced.

If I was in a position to give advice (which I am aware that this most likely not the case for your situation) I would ask myself what's causing the destructive needs. For me the preoccupation was a way to flee the harsh reality of the miserable life I was living. I believe for most of the addictions this is more or less the same. Why don't you like your life? What can be changed? What's in your power to change? Who can help you to change certain things?
I think creating better living conditions will help you to keep away from your addictions. Cleaning your house might help for example. Reactivate a hobby you had to meet people and avoid social isolation. The breakfast was a good example how you broke away from the killing loneliness.
Go to bed at 10 and go out of bed at 7. Every day. It really helps. Predictable patterns in your life are boring but it's good against depression and destructive habits.
There are a lot more of these little things that combined might give the change you need. A good psych or someone with experience on this subject might help you with this.

I wish you the best of luck.

"We've been searching for our whole lives.
And we have traveled through unexplainable stories.
Swear to God I fought the good fight,
always waiting for the coming of morning.
And I heard the Captain say, I heard the Captain say,
"The more I know, the less I'm knowing."
And I heard the Captain say, I heard the Captain say,
"Activate your force-fields and just keep going..."
Cloud Cult — The Mission: Unexplainable Stories



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Posted: Nov 7, 2017 - 9:42pm

 FourFortyEight wrote:

I bought Power of Now.  I've only just begun it but I can see how it could have an impact.  I have to squeeze in bits and pieces where I can but a lot of it sticks with me, specifically incessant thought. I've heard him speak of things that I've already begun thinking about.  Thanks again.

Self-realization won't be the reason I fail if I do.

 
Excellent. It's like being able to ride a bike and you can't go back to not knowing how - once you get to the place of awareness, it's nearly impossible to not be there.


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Posted: Nov 7, 2017 - 5:20pm

 Steely_D wrote:

The two Tolle books: Power of Now and New Earth literally changed my life. I couldn't read them - I checked out the audiobook from the library because I wasn't going to spend money on it.
Less than halfway through Power of Now my wife says, "You're different. What happened?"

I listen to them every few months as tune up. actually got front row seats to see him in LA before he became famous on Oprah. (Jeff Goldblum and Jim Carrey were sitting a few rows behind me)

DON'T watch his lectures on YouTube. I think they're disorganized and not particularly helpful. Also, to be fair, I've been very discouraged by the business that sprung up around him. I don't think his message is tainted, but I think he's said to us what he needed to say and is just continuing to spread the same message that the books have.

But, it might be that you're feeling what I felt: I got my head above the waves. It feels different. It feels good instead of bad. Of course, I wish it'd happened decades ago, but that's just dwelling on something I can never change. No point in that. Like in golf - play the ball from where it lies.

 
I bought Power of Now.  I've only just begun it but I can see how it could have an impact.  I have to squeeze in bits and pieces where I can but a lot of it sticks with me, specifically incessant thought. I've heard him speak of things that I've already begun thinking about.  Thanks again.

Self-realization won't be the reason I fail if I do.
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Posted: Nov 3, 2017 - 10:22pm

 laozilover wrote:

You're not the first to feel that way. Read ZEN AND THE ART OF MOTORCYCLE MAINTENANCE, or read about the life of Eckhart Tolle. For me early on it felt like tectonic plates were shifting. It's a hazard of giving up a lifestyle which requires us to be right all the time.

 
The two Tolle books: Power of Now and New Earth literally changed my life. I couldn't read them - I checked out the audiobook from the library because I wasn't going to spend money on it.
Less than halfway through Power of Now my wife says, "You're different. What happened?"

I listen to them every few months as tune up. actually got front row seats to see him in LA before he became famous on Oprah. (Jeff Goldblum and Jim Carrey were sitting a few rows behind me)

DON'T watch his lectures on YouTube. I think they're disorganized and not particularly helpful. Also, to be fair, I've been very discouraged by the business that sprung up around him. I don't think his message is tainted, but I think he's said to us what he needed to say and is just continuing to spread the same message that the books have.

But, it might be that you're feeling what I felt: I got my head above the waves. It feels different. It feels good instead of bad. Of course, I wish it'd happened decades ago, but that's just dwelling on something I can never change. No point in that. Like in golf - play the ball from where it lies.


FourFortyEight

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Posted: Nov 3, 2017 - 8:59pm

 laozilover wrote:

You're not the first to feel that way. Read ZEN AND THE ART OF MOTORCYCLE MAINTENANCE, or read about the life of Eckhart Tolle. For me early on it felt like tectonic plates were shifting. It's a hazard of giving up a lifestyle which requires us to be right all the time.

 
Exactly.
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Posted: Nov 3, 2017 - 8:58pm

 Coaxial wrote:

I think Maya said it a little better....



 
I think this is what I've accepted.  Thanks for that.  
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Posted: Nov 3, 2017 - 1:02pm

 FourFortyEight wrote:
Why does it feel like I've just recently come to my senses about these things?  Not just my addiction but everything else that seems to be falling into place too late. All of the things that I'm experiencing with renewed judgement, all in the wake of what I could have done right the first time.  What the fuck is happening to me right now?

 
You're not the first to feel that way. Read ZEN AND THE ART OF MOTORCYCLE MAINTENANCE, or read about the life of Eckhart Tolle. For me early on it felt like tectonic plates were shifting. It's a hazard of giving up a lifestyle which requires us to be right all the time.
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Posted: Nov 3, 2017 - 6:49am

 Coaxial wrote:

In order to live with yourself you've got to forgive yourself...No amount of guilt will ever change a farking thing...Let it go and get on with your new life...Break that rearview mirror off your windshield of life.{#Meditate}YMMV

 
I think Maya said it a little better....


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Posted: Nov 3, 2017 - 5:23am

 FourFortyEight wrote:
Why does it feel like I've just recently come to my senses about these things?  Not just my addiction but everything else that seems to be falling into place too late. All of the things that I'm experiencing with renewed judgement, all in the wake of what I could have done right the first time.  What the fuck is happening to me right now?

 
In order to live with yourself you've got to forgive yourself...No amount of guilt will ever change a farking thing...Let it go and get on with your new life...Break that rearview mirror off your windshield of life.{#Meditate}YMMV
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Posted: Nov 3, 2017 - 5:02am

 FourFortyEight wrote:
Why does it feel like I've just recently come to my senses about these things?  Not just my addiction but everything else that seems to be falling into place too late. All of the things that I'm experiencing with renewed judgement, all in the wake of what I could have done right the first time.  What the fuck is happening to me right now?
 

do you really want to know or are you just asking?

you're probably having a moment of clarity

progress can be a bit like waking up

keep plugging brother

it gets better, much better
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Posted: Nov 2, 2017 - 7:59pm

Why does it feel like I've just recently come to my senses about these things?  Not just my addiction but everything else that seems to be falling into place too late. All of the things that I'm experiencing with renewed judgement, all in the wake of what I could have done right the first time.  What the fuck is happening to me right now?
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Posted: Oct 28, 2017 - 3:59pm

 Xeric wrote:

The second-most-useful aphorism: Keep Coming Back!  {#High-five}

 
Thanks, man. {#High-five}
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