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Posted: Oct 21, 2017 - 7:17am

spain's central government  is essentially stripping catalonia of its power - by force

Prime Minister Announces Spain Will Remove Catalan Leader

MADRID — In a first for Spain, Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy announced on Saturday that he would remove the separatist government of the independence-minded region of Catalonia and initiate a process of direct rule from Madrid.

The announcement, made after an emergency cabinet meeting, was an unexpectedly forceful attempt to stop a yearslong drive for secession in Catalonia, which staged a highly controversial independence referendum on Oct. 1., even after it was declared illegal by the Spanish government and courts.

Mr. Rajoy took the bold steps with broad support from Spain’s main political opposition, and will almost certainly receive the required approval next week from the Spanish Senate, where his own conservative party holds a majority.

But the moves were immediately condemned by Catalan leaders and thrust Spain into uncharted waters as the prime minister tried to put down the gravest constitutional crisis his country has faced since embracing democracy after the death of its dictator Gen. Francisco Franco in 1975.

It would be the first time that the central government in Madrid has stripped the autonomy of one of its 17 regions, and the first time that a leader had invoked Article 155 of the Spanish Constitution — a broad tool intended to protect the “general interests” of the nation.


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Posted: Oct 9, 2017 - 2:30pm

Hundreds of Thousands Rally in Barcelona Against Catalan Secession

Demonstrators Declare 'Catalonia Is Spain' Posted onOctober 8, 2017CategoriesNewsTags

After weeks of massive public demonstrations across Catalonia with the slogan “Catalonia is not Spain,” a major rally was held Sunday in Barcelonia, in which anti-secessionists declared that after all this, Catalonia actually is Spain.


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Posted: Oct 6, 2017 - 12:26pm

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Disgraceful! So much for democracy, eh Spain?

 
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Síp, solamente los separatistas catalanes son demócratas. El resto de los españoles (45.000.000 de personas, incluyendo a más de la mitad de catalanes que quieren seguir siendo españoles) somos franquistas, fascistas, nazis, opresores, ladrones, incultos e ignorantes.
¿De verdad os creeis todo lo que dice ese artículo? ¿La persona que lo ha escrito conoce bien España y Cataluña? yo le invito a que venga para que conozca este maravilloso país de parte a parte y no lance bulos que pueden hacer mucho daño.
El referendum era ilegal, el gobierno autonómico de Cataluña se ha saltado las leyes españolas y la Constitución que se aprobó mayoritariamente por todos los españoles.
Hubo personas que votaron dos, tres y hasta cuatro veces. Incluso hubo urnas en la calle con personas votando sin ningún control. Hoy,6 dias después todavía no han hecho la declaración de independencia unilateral y ya muchas grandes empresas están trasladando sus sedes sociales a otras ciudades fuera de Cataluña. Lo único que se ha conseguido con este supuesto referendum democrático es perjudicarnos a todos, catalanes enfrentados con catalanes, catalanes enfrentados con españoles y viceversa, insultos muy fuertes, ofensas por ambas partes, en fin, algo vergonzoso.
Por supuesto que son condenables las cargas policiales del domingo (Al igual que es condenable la violencia que también he visto en otros paises que se dicen muy democráticos)  pero también es verdad que han corrido muchos bulos y fotos falsas de una y otra parte.
En la vida real no hay buenos buenisimos y malos malisimos. Tanto en España como en Cataluña nos hace falta tener unos políticos que estén a la altura y sepan dialogar y entenderse, no unos fanáticos de un lado y unos extremistas del otro lado, corruptos todos, que lo único que hacen es ahondar en la fractura social entre hermanos, supongo que por intereses espurios.
Como española que ama su país incluyendo a Cataluña me duele enormemente que se dé veracidad a una versión sesgada de lo que es un problema interno y que tenemos que resolver entre nosotros. 
Por cierto, soy de Madrid, la semana pasada estuve un par de días de vacaciones en Cataluña conociendo el Delta del Ebro que es un lugar precioso, tengo familia en Cataluña y amigos catalanes que son unas excelentes personas.
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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 3:31pm

 miamizsun wrote: 
Disgraceful! So much for democracy, eh Spain?
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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 2:55pm

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Wow. In Spain? Wow.
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Posted: Oct 1, 2017 - 1:22pm

scroll through and watch these short videos...

"This Is Fascism": Shocking Footage Of Spanish Police Firing Rubber Bullets, Brutally Beating Peaceful Voters



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Posted: Jul 13, 2015 - 1:54pm

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Spain Government Goes Full Police State; Enacts Law Forbidding Dissent, 'Unauthorized' Photography Of Law Enforcement

from the shut-up-citizen-or-we'll-put-your-money-where-your-mouth-is dept

looks like free speech isn't so free...

 

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Posted: Jul 13, 2015 - 4:51am

Spain Government Goes Full Police State; Enacts Law Forbidding Dissent, 'Unauthorized' Photography Of Law Enforcement

from the shut-up-citizen-or-we'll-put-your-money-where-your-mouth-is dept

looks like free speech isn't so free...
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Posted: Jul 12, 2012 - 10:46pm



The Pain in Spain Falls Mainly on the Plain (Folk)

by Amy Goodman
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July 11, 2012 

As Spain’s prime minister announced deep austerity cuts Wednesday in order to secure funds from the European Union to bail out Spain’s failing banks, the people of Spain have taken to the streets once again for what they call “Real Democracy Now.” This comes a week after the government announced it was launching a criminal investigation into the former CEO of Spain’s fourth-largest bank, Bankia. Rodrigo Rato is no small fish: Before running Bankia he was head of the International Monetary Fund. What the U.S. media don’t tell you is that this official government investigation was initiated by grass-roots action.

The Occupy movement in Spain is called M-15, for the day it began, May 15, 2011. I met with one of the key organizers in Madrid last week on the day the Rato investigation was announced. He smiled, and said, “Something is starting to happen.” The organizer, Stephane Grueso, is an activist filmmaker who is making a documentary about the May 15 movement. He is a talented professional, but, like 25 percent of the Spanish population, he is unemployed: “We didn’t like what we were seeing, where we were going. We felt we were losing our democracy, we were losing our country, we were losing our way of life. ... We had one slogan: ‘Democracia real YA!’—we want a ‘real democracy, now!’ Fifty people stayed overnight in Puerta del Sol, this public square. And then the police tried to take us out, and so we came back. And then this thing began to multiply in other cities in Spain. In three, four days’ time, we were like tens of thousands of people in dozens of cities in Spain, camped in the middle of the city—a little bit like we saw in Tahrir in Egypt.”

The occupation of Puerta del Sol and other plazas around Spain continued, but, as with Occupy Wall Street encampments around the U.S., they were eventually broken up. The organizing continued, though, with issue-oriented working groups and neighborhood assemblies. One M-15 working group decided to sue Rodrigo Rato, and recruited pro bono lawyers and identified more than 50 plaintiffs, people who felt they’d been personally defrauded by Bankia. While the lawyers were volunteers, a massive lawsuit costs money, so this movement, driven by social media, turned to “crowd funding,” to the masses of supporters in their movement for small donations. In less than a day, they raised more than $25,000. The lawsuit was filed in June of this year...




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Posted: May 21, 2006 - 2:05pm

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I'm all for that!


An your are from Canada ... not from Spain!
The men are the same everywhere.
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Posted: Jul 9, 2005 - 12:38pm

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Male housework made law
By Emma-Kate Symons in Paris


SPANISH men will be required to scrub toilets and change nappies as often as their harried wives under revolutionary reforms aimed at shattering the traditionally macho Latin nation's patriarchal division of labour in the home.
Changes to the marriage contract supported by the Socialist Government of Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, along with conservative Catholic and right-wing politicians, will force men and women to promise not only fidelity but equal shares of housewor, childrearing and care of the elderly until death they do part.

As Australia grapples with Sex Discrimination Commissioner Pru Goward's report calling on men to do their fair share of household chores, Spain has used the force of law to propel lazy husbands off their couches and marital beds and into the historically female territory of the kitchen, bathroom and nursery.

The historically socially conservative Catholic country dominated by a male hierarchy is undergoing a delayed social revolution, evidenced by yesterday's decision by Spain's parliament to legalise gay marriage.

Yet despite the prescriptive nature of the new gender laws - due to pass the Spanish Senate this week - there is no means of enforcing equal sharing of unpaid work in the home in a nation where many mothers still regularly do their adult sons' washing and young girlfriends automatically prepare their partners' meals.

The Spanish MP who championed the reform, the Basque Nationalist Party's Margaret Uria, said it was fundamentally a symbolic gesture that nonetheless "sends a message" to Spanish men who are notoriously allergic to household chores.

The reforms were something "feminists have been wanting for a long time" because the "idea of equality within marriage always stumbles over the problem of work in the house and caring for dependent people".

"We Spanish women are too clean, and we aren't good enough at moaning," Ms Uria said. She said that despite the focus on Spanish women's onerous housework burden the new laws were directed at men who foisted the responsibility of care for their elderly parents on their wives.

While Spain's women daily perform at least six hours of housework, men clock up only 44 minutes - plus 51 minutes of childcare to their spouses' daily average of six hours.

Four in 10 Spanish men do no housework at all, surveys show, and more than 30 per cent believe women should not work outside the family home. Under the new law men and women will pledge to "share domestic responsibilities and the care and attention" of young children and ageing relatives.

The new egalitarian domestic regime could dramatically alter the state of divorce in Spain, because judges will now consider men's commitment to this pledge when ruling on separations and access to children.

Attempts to blast Spanish males out of their cosy reliance on women as girlfriends, wives, chefs, cleaners, childcarers and custodians of the elderly include technological changes to household appliances.

The latest washing machine, named "Your Turn", prevents the same person - typically a wife and mother - from using the appliance consecutively by adopting fingerprint recognition technology.


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Posted: Jul 6, 2005 - 4:09pm

Male housework made law
By Emma-Kate Symons in Paris


SPANISH men will be required to scrub toilets and change nappies as often as their harried wives under revolutionary reforms aimed at shattering the traditionally macho Latin nation's patriarchal division of labour in the home.
Changes to the marriage contract supported by the Socialist Government of Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero, along with conservative Catholic and right-wing politicians, will force men and women to promise not only fidelity but equal shares of housewor, childrearing and care of the elderly until death they do part.

As Australia grapples with Sex Discrimination Commissioner Pru Goward's report calling on men to do their fair share of household chores, Spain has used the force of law to propel lazy husbands off their couches and marital beds and into the historically female territory of the kitchen, bathroom and nursery.

The historically socially conservative Catholic country dominated by a male hierarchy is undergoing a delayed social revolution, evidenced by yesterday's decision by Spain's parliament to legalise gay marriage.

Yet despite the prescriptive nature of the new gender laws - due to pass the Spanish Senate this week - there is no means of enforcing equal sharing of unpaid work in the home in a nation where many mothers still regularly do their adult sons' washing and young girlfriends automatically prepare their partners' meals.

The Spanish MP who championed the reform, the Basque Nationalist Party's Margaret Uria, said it was fundamentally a symbolic gesture that nonetheless "sends a message" to Spanish men who are notoriously allergic to household chores.

The reforms were something "feminists have been wanting for a long time" because the "idea of equality within marriage always stumbles over the problem of work in the house and caring for dependent people".

"We Spanish women are too clean, and we aren't good enough at moaning," Ms Uria said. She said that despite the focus on Spanish women's onerous housework burden the new laws were directed at men who foisted the responsibility of care for their elderly parents on their wives.

While Spain's women daily perform at least six hours of housework, men clock up only 44 minutes - plus 51 minutes of childcare to their spouses' daily average of six hours.

Four in 10 Spanish men do no housework at all, surveys show, and more than 30 per cent believe women should not work outside the family home. Under the new law men and women will pledge to "share domestic responsibilities and the care and attention" of young children and ageing relatives.

The new egalitarian domestic regime could dramatically alter the state of divorce in Spain, because judges will now consider men's commitment to this pledge when ruling on separations and access to children.

Attempts to blast Spanish males out of their cosy reliance on women as girlfriends, wives, chefs, cleaners, childcarers and custodians of the elderly include technological changes to household appliances.

The latest washing machine, named "Your Turn", prevents the same person - typically a wife and mother - from using the appliance consecutively by adopting fingerprint recognition technology.
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Posted: Jun 30, 2005 - 7:56am

Spanish parliament passes gay marriage bill
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Just two days after Canadian members of Parliament passed same-sex marriage legislation, Spanish lawmakers have voted to allow gays and lesbians to legally marry.

* INDEPTH: Same-sex Rights

The vote in the 350-seat Congress of Deputies was 187 in favour, 147 against and four abstentions.

The Conservative-dominated Senate had rejected the bill. But it is an advisory board and final say rests with the Congress.

The law would make Spain only the fourth country in the world to officially recognize same-sex marriage. The Netherlands and Belgium approved same-sex marriages in 2000 and 2003.

In Canada, the Liberals' controversial same-sex marriage legislation passed final reading in the House of Commons Tuesday. It is expected to become law before the end of July.

* FROM JUNE 28, 2005: Same-sex marriage law passes

"We were not the first, but I am sure we will not be the last," Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero told the chamber. "After us will come many other countries, driven, ladies and gentlemen, by two unstoppable forces: freedom and equality."

Zapatero's Socialist government proposed the legislation shortly after winning the 2004 elections.

Spanish gay couples can get married as soon as the law is published in the official government registry, which could come as early as Friday, or within two weeks at the latest, the parliament's press office said.

The legislation has been opposed by Conservative legislators and the Roman Catholic Church. In a rare step, the church endorsed a rally in which hundreds of thousands marched through Madrid in opposition to the bill. Some 20 bishops took part in the June 18 rally.

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Posted: Mar 25, 2005 - 4:45am

No Bull: Animal Rights Group to Stage 'Running of the Nudes'

Hundreds of animal rights activists rallying in Pamplona in 2004 in a PETA-called protest against traditional bull fighting and bull run that are part of the nine-day San Fermin festival. (AFP/Rafa Rivas)
MADRID -- The annual "running of the bulls" in the northern Spanish town of Pamplona could get some serious competition this year, in the form of a rival run by naked humans protesting cruelty to animals.

The People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) group, which has protested against the event in the past, even announced that it was asking the town authorities to replace the traditional bull-chase with its "running of the nudes."

The nine-day San Fermin festival, due to start on July 6, traditionally involves hundreds of runners, including many tourists, trying to outrace a herd of bulls, who chase them throught the town's narrow streets in a tradition that goes back centuries.

But PETA, which last year unleashed several protesters wearing nothing but fake horns and sandals into the streets of Pamplona, said it wants to turn the 'Running of the Nudes' into the official event this year to protest cruelty against animals.

The group is also concerned about last year's outbreak of blue tongue disease, a virus which forced restrictions on livestock movements in southern regions of Spain.

"In light of the outbreak of blue tongue disease and the negative press reports of the disease... we have asked the mayor to make PETA's Running of the Nudes' the official event this year, PETA's campaigns coordinator Yvonne Taylor told AFP.

A spokeswoman for Pamplona mayor Yolanda Barcina Angulo would not comment on PETA's plans, but said that: "as far as we know the bull-running will go ahead as usual" in the absence of advice to the contrary following the blue tongue outbreak.

"People are free to express their own opinion. But the criticism only comes from Britons and Americans, not Spaniards," she sniffed.

PETA tried a celebrity approach last year, with Chrissie Hynde, singer with rock group The Pretenders, urging an end to the "medieval" practice of "tormenting and slaughtering" the bulls, who last year gored 16 race participants.

Amid the controversy the organisers promise only that "the running of the bulls is an unforgettable experience for the spectator and above all for anyone who runs ahead of the bulls.

"It's a spectacle defined by risk and one's physical capacity."

The event has resulted in the deaths of 14 spectators, and of an unknown number of bulls, since records began in 1911.

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Posted: Feb 15, 2005 - 2:10am

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Hi, Richard
That was really shocking, but fortunately nobody got hurt.

I don't know if you've heard about another thing: some buildings have been swallowed by a big hole in Barcelona because of the works of a new underground line. It seems it's been caused by some negligent decisions of local authorities, and a lot of familes have lost their homes.

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Posted: Feb 13, 2005 - 3:35am

Fire Ravages Madrid Skyscraper, No Injuries

MADRID (Reuters) - A raging fire swept through a 32-storey skyscraper in the heart of Madrid's commercial district on Sunday, causing no injuries but sparking fears the office building might collapse.

Bright orange flames ate through the top half of the Windsor building as its metal shell fell away in tangled pieces from the upper floors, exposing a smoldering concrete skeleton.

Giant balls of flame rose into the night as parts of its side collapsed. The smell of smoke spread through the north of the Spanish capital as hundreds of anxious neighbors packed streets around the burning building. Several onlookers and firemen had to be treated for smoke inhalation.

"The fire is very big and we cannot save the building itself. Our focus is to prevent it from spreading," said Madrid Mayor Alberto Ruiz Gallardon, adding that a short-circuit was the likely cause of the blaze.

The well-known Madrid landmark -- which houses the offices of U.S. accounting firm Deloitte & Touche -- was believed to have been empty when the fire started at 2230 GMT on Saturday.

The blaze was still raging out of control in the early hours of Sunday, having apparently breached a fire wall on the 17th floor. Authorities cordoned off a zone 500-meters in diameter around the building in case it should collapse.

Gallardon told reporters that with huge pieces of debris falling off the 110-meter structure, it was unclear if the concrete skeleton of the building would hold. "We have taken all the necessary precautions and if the building falls it will not affect any citizens," he said.

SECOND DRAMA
It was the second drama to strike Madrid in less than a week, after armed Basque separatists ETA on Wednesday detonated a bomb near a major conference center, injuring 43 people.

Television images showed the building lighting up the Madrid skyline like a giant torch as dawn broke, sending a column of black smoke billowing into the air.

The building, completed in 1979, is situated in a busy commercial area near office blocks, shopping centers and Real Madrid's Santiago Bernabeu football stadium.

With authorities saying the building was lost, firemen withdrew their ladders and concentrated their hoses on nearby buildings to keep them cool in the hope of preventing the fire from spreading.

The mayor said three firemen were being treated for smoke inhalation.

State television said fire fighters had been alerted to the blaze by a call from the 25th floor of the building, but it was not immediately possible to confirm this.