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Posted: Jan 21, 2018 - 9:34am

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Try the short form:  BENGHAZI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Or: "but, her emails"
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Posted: Jan 21, 2018 - 8:56am

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I totally don't get the point.

 
Try the short form:  BENGHAZI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Jan 21, 2018 - 5:50am

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I totally don't get the point.

 
The point is that logic and reason have totally left the building in all things regarding Trump. The Marquess of Queensberry has also left the building.  No holds are barred.   He is no longer considered a person.  He has become an object of which everyone is blaming him for everything that is wrong.  Deserved and undeserved.  We have reached the peak of dysfunction as a country.

I just happened to watch SNL last night for the first time this season.  I have never felt so old and irrelevant as I did last night.  Who and what the hell is Troye Sivan ?  But there were some real pearls of wisdom shared last night in the true old original  SNL way.

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Posted: Jan 20, 2018 - 11:18pm

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Clearly Trump....

...anyway because ...
 
I totally don't get the point.


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Posted: Jan 20, 2018 - 7:00pm

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The NYT ran a piece on the test: 

Trump Passed a Cognitive Exam. What Does That Really Mean?

Screening tests like these cannot rule out declines in reasoning or memory, or difficulties with planning or judgment. The test is just too blunt an instrument, and for many high-functioning people, too easy.

...
 “If you are a Harvard professor, you could have a lot of decline before it starts to show up in cognitive tests,” said Dr. Eric Siemers, who until recently headed the development of Alzheimer’s drugs at Eli Lilly.

 
Clearly Trump is neither a high functioning individual nor a Harvard professor.  He's a blunt instrument.  So the results say that he is still a blunt instrument, with early onset Alzheimer's if I read everything and everybody correctly.   And he is obese with heart disease according to CNN's esteemed Dr. Gupta, who has examined Trump's test results.  Time for the 25th Amendment.  Chop, chop !!

Drat, we can't use the 25th because the government is shut down.  Maybe Trump isn't as stupid as he looks after all, cuz the way things are going, the government will be shut down every three or four weeks, forever ...  Kim is already warming up his missiles cuz the USA is closed and Hawaii ain't on his list.  Clearly the best target would be the Yellowstone Caldera.  Extinction event with one poorly aimed missile.  Direct hit unnecessary.  Close would work there just fine.  

ymwv ...  Sweet dreams ... and Trump is still fat and demented, right ?  or is that Kim ?  Who cares anymore anyway because ...

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Posted: Jan 20, 2018 - 3:36pm

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This was the test that was administered to determine Lord Dampnut's mental soundness.

An OT I know administers this test to determine if someone would be safe living home alone, not to determine his/her soundness of judgment in leading a country.

 


The NYT ran a piece on the test: 

Trump Passed a Cognitive Exam. What Does That Really Mean?

Screening tests like these cannot rule out declines in reasoning or memory, or difficulties with planning or judgment. The test is just too blunt an instrument, and for many high-functioning people, too easy.

“You wouldn’t make a diagnosis in either direction based on a screening exam,” said Dr. Ronald Petersen, director of the Alzheimer’s Disease Research Center at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn. (He emphasized that he was speaking in general terms, not specifically about President Trump’s case.)


...

But shouldn’t a perfect score be reassuring?

Maybe. But the test is not that difficult, and the problem with a single test is that the doctor doesn’t know what the subject’s starting point was. Usually it’s the trend over time that suggests a problem.

 “If you are a Harvard professor, you could have a lot of decline before it starts to show up in cognitive tests,” said Dr. Eric Siemers, who until recently headed the development of Alzheimer’s drugs at Eli Lilly.




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Posted: Jan 20, 2018 - 2:15pm

This was the test that was administered to determine Lord Dampnut's mental soundness.

An OT I know administers this test to determine if someone would be safe living home alone, not to determine his/her soundness of judgment in leading a country.
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Posted: Jan 20, 2018 - 2:15pm

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How about last year:

 
It's weird that the GOP has incorporated "hypocrisy" into their value stream. But it's unequivocal.
They'll distract by saying "Look at the Dems" but that doesn't take away the truth. Shame on them.
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Posted: Jan 20, 2018 - 1:42pm

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How about last year:


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Posted: Jan 20, 2018 - 9:42am

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It really was. I'm glad I took the time to read it. My biggest take-away was the suggestions of how to move forward after this and the compromises that might actually work. Being neither Rep nor Dem, I've always been frustrated by the endless tug-of-war and congressional blocks....and hoped for some sort of moderate political trend in my lifetime (you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm definitely not the only one), and had hoped even more that this current administration would wake people up to make it happen. This statement in the article seemed to affirm my belief/hope:

Perhaps the very darkness of the Trump experience can summon the nation to its senses and jolt Americans to a new politics of commonality, a new politics in which the Trump experience is remembered as the end of something bad, and not the beginning of something worse.


 
The pendulum will always swing, but over the last few decades it feels like it is being pushed farther and farther to each extreme. Obama felt like a little bit of moderation to me, but to the hardcore conservatives he appeared to be a giant shove. I wonder how much of that was his race, and If he would have been more welcomed by the right as a white guy (or even a woman?). But then he would probably not have been as celebrated by the left (which would probably help acceptance by the right). 

I used to think there was about 70% in the middle that basically agreed, but were colored by the fact that they had to pick a side with the 15% of radicals on the left and right. I now think my numbers were wrong, it appears that there are about 30-35% on either side that are 'unswayable'. So that means that there are probably only 30-40% of people in the middle who basically agree. That means that the majority of people refuse to even agree on basic facts, or what constitutes a good source of information. That also means there aren't enough of us truly in the middle left to forge a compromise.  So stability comes from the powerful hold of a few who are benefited by the status quo.  

Are we doomed?  Probably too soon to tell. We probably won't know until it's too late.  If people knew when the revolutions were going to start, they would probably take steps to avert them.  It's on the horizon though.  I don't think we have another century on this trajectory. But hey, I'm just on the edge over here looking in. But I'm ready to cast off and go do my thing somewhere else at any moment.  IN a way I'm like the trumpers - I don't think this system is working very well. But I think it's fixable if the people get involved and are honest about what is needed and what they want instead of just burning it all down.

here's another interesting take : https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/04/why-are-the-baby-boomers-desperate-to-make-us-millennials-hate-ourselves  I do think we are looking at generational conflict. The boomers are pretty desperate to keep what they have, and are looking to put the blame for the problems they have created wherever it will stick. 

Could a revolution just look like us getting used to people dying in the streets around us?
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Posted: Jan 20, 2018 - 9:10am

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 hayduke2 wrote:
I don't usually have much use for Frum but that was pretty good.

 
 
It really was. I'm glad I took the time to read it. My biggest take-away was the suggestions of how to move forward after this and the compromises that might actually work. Being neither Rep nor Dem, I've always been frustrated by the endless tug-of-war and congressional blocks....and hoped for some sort of moderate political trend in my lifetime (you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm definitely not the only one), and had hoped even more that this current administration would wake people up to make it happen. This statement in the article seemed to affirm my belief/hope:

Perhaps the very darkness of the Trump experience can summon the nation to its senses and jolt Americans to a new politics of commonality, a new politics in which the Trump experience is remembered as the end of something bad, and not the beginning of something worse.

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Posted: Jan 20, 2018 - 8:32am

NOTHING BUT A SELF-CENTERED, THIEVING, RACIST, MISOGYNIST MORON  


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Posted: Jan 20, 2018 - 5:11am

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There were a couple of valid points in this piece which is in support of his new book, but they get muddied with his overall bias and sales pitch for his book.

If you are neither a repub or a conservative and you seek insight into either and Trump supporters, Frum is not a good source.  He is Canadian, a Bush lapdog, neoconservative and never Trumper.  

He serves on the board of directors ... of the anti-drug policy group Smart Approaches to Marijuana amongst others.

Beware of any analysis that says Trump supporters are acting out of fear.  That couldn't be farther from the truth.  It is rooted in anger and frustration with the status quo.  Those who use fear as their primary explanation are projecting their own fear onto this group.  A suggestion for interpreting these projections would be to substitute fed up every time you see the word fear used to describe Trump supporters.

If you want to be right, how about trying being right for the right reasons.  But this only applies to those seeking to understand.  If you hate Trump and want him gone no matter what, then never mind. 



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Posted: Jan 19, 2018 - 6:27pm

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I don't usually have much use for Frum but that was pretty good.
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Posted: Jan 19, 2018 - 2:52pm

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That's interesting, because I see those two terms as flipped.  I get along just fine with many Republicans; those that call themselves out as conservatives? Not so much.

 
Yes, I think the terms get flipped around, depending who it is (politician versus voter) and what the subject is. For example, the anti-abortion crowd calls themselves 'Conservative', but their intrusion into personal medical decisions, including murder (Dr. Tiller and others), is anything but conservative. Both words can be code for something unrelated to their traditional meaning and usage.
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Posted: Jan 19, 2018 - 2:27pm

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My only concern is the article conflates 'Republican' with 'Conservative'. They are not the same. It's true that Conservatives will always be around, but the party they hewed to has abandoned any semblance of conservative ideals.

Otherwise it's good, and scary too.
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That's interesting, because I see those two terms as flipped.  I get along just fine with many Republicans; those that call themselves out as conservatives? Not so much.
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Posted: Jan 19, 2018 - 12:42pm

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My only concern is the article conflates 'Republican' with 'Conservative'. They are not the same. It's true that Conservatives will always be around, but the party they hewed to has abandoned any semblance of conservative ideals.

Otherwise it's good, and scary too.
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Posted: Jan 19, 2018 - 12:00pm

 An Exit From Trumpocracy 
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