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Posted: Oct 23, 2017 - 3:00pm

https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-played-golf-every-152948668.html

Donald Trump has played golf every four days of his presidency


Under normal circumstances this would be beyond embarrassing but perhaps we are all better off that he can distract himself and leave the real work of government to others. Love the fact that he slammed Obama for the times that he golfed yet has no issue with completely setting a new high for presidential golf games played. He's always been a "do as I say"... not a... "do as I do" person. 

The fact that he decided to golf instead of attending a benefit concert for communities affected by Hurricanes Maria, Irma and Harvey speaks volumes as to how twisted his priorities are. I'm guessing that he shied away from that more from the perspective that he would have been overshadowed by every other former president there.

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Posted: Oct 23, 2017 - 2:04pm

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Trump is highly protective of his properties (MAGA, etc.) so now there's an assumption that he's going to try to trademark the jack-o-lantern face (or already has).

 
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Posted: Oct 23, 2017 - 1:59pm

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Trump is highly protective of his properties (MAGA, etc.) so now there's an assumption that he's going to try to trademark the jack-o-lantern face (or already has).
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Posted: Oct 23, 2017 - 12:09pm


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Posted: Oct 23, 2017 - 9:16am

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I do not disagree.

My post was more of a general comment, not a direct response to your post (I just responded to yours as the latest one).

  

   



 
He keeps digging himself in deeper and deeper.  Apparently widow harassment is his latest skill.
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Posted: Oct 23, 2017 - 9:15am

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 miamizsun wrote:

Trump Combines His Worst Ideas Into a Solar-Power Border Wall

The idea is sadly gaining steam.


Donald Trump's border wall has always been an ineffective, immoral, and incredibly expensive idea. But lately he's been making it even worse, by suggesting that it double as a giant solar power plant.

The president first floated this notion back in June, saying that a wall topped with solar panels "creates energy and pays for itself." Now, with work on border wall prototypes getting underway, his idea doesn't seem to be just a passing fancy.

"Solar panels or technology bundles on top of the fence certainly isn't off the table," Mario Villarreal, the new division chief for San Diego's Customs and Border Protection field office, told The Washington Examiner yesterday. Villarreal's office is overseeing the construction of eight different border wall prototypes.


Since the concept seems largely an illusion, they could hire about 20,000 mimes (they don't really have steady work anyhow) to walk along the border around the clock.  They would continuously "mime" the illusion that there is an invisible wall - that way they could also see the dealers before they throw bags of drugs over the "wall".

 
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Posted: Oct 23, 2017 - 9:08am

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This being the Trump thread, the point is that Trump is not receiving the same harsh scrutiny as the Weinsteins, et al. I'm saying the Weinsteins obviously had the power to exploit others, but the same people who are standing back to let the hounds at the Weinsteins are providing cover for Trump, and that's a result of decades of self-promotion. 

 
I do not disagree.

My post was more of a general comment, not a direct response to your post (I just responded to yours as the latest one).

  

   




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Posted: Oct 23, 2017 - 8:59am

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Yes, things get politicized, and someone well-known in Hollywood or occupying a national political office is going to draw more attention for the same kind of activity than someone not in the same bright spotlight . . . but the salient point here — perhaps the only point — is that this is an example of a powerful person using that power/status for purposes of sexual exploitation/human degradation. The rest is noise.  
 
This being the Trump thread, the point is that Trump is not receiving the same harsh scrutiny as the Weinsteins, et al. I'm saying the Weinsteins obviously had the power to exploit others, but the same people who are standing back to let the hounds at the Weinsteins are providing cover for Trump, and that's a result of decades of self-promotion. 
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Posted: Oct 23, 2017 - 8:09am

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Within their sphere, they're titans. It's their misfortune that their sphere happens to be an industry that Trump's America gets all schadenfreudey over. 

 
Yes, things get politicized, and someone well-known in Hollywood or occupying a national political office is going to draw more attention for the same kind of activity than someone not in the same bright spotlight . . . but the salient point here — perhaps the only point — is that this is an example of a powerful person using that power/status for purposes of sexual exploitation/human degradation. The rest is noise.  




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Posted: Oct 23, 2017 - 7:57am

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 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Because nobody knows the Weinsteins, nobody spent years pinning their hopes on them (and are now reluctant to sabotage their own interests to do the right thing) and the Weinsteins didn't spend the last 40 years explaining to anyone who'd listen how awesome they are. The Weinsteins don't have any cheerleaders.

Not sure how cheeky your tongue is being here.

The Weinsteins (and only one of them is accused of being a sexual predator) are giants in their industry. They have accomplished legitimately great things, along with—like Trump—taking credit for other people's great things. They were gatekeepers to a career in show business. They could say "You'll never work in this town again" and make it stick.

Nobody was looking to either of them as the next president, but a lot of people were looking to them to write the check to finance the campaign of the next president.

The biggest difference is that in the movie business image matters. If you look sleazy enough people can walk away from you. It's not like you can stop paying taxes or start ignoring the executive branch of the federal government.

Trump's misdeeds (as long as they could be kept rumors with settlements and non-disclosure agreements) were probably more of an asset than a liability in his career as a reality TV star and glitzy real estate mogul, part of his bad boy image. If they had bubbled to the surface the way Harvey Weinstein's have—an expose of a criminal investigation—back when he was just an annoying basic cable presence his brand would have been tarnished enough that he would have dropped from sight.

Once he's a political player his image handlers can credibly claim that the allegations against him are partisan bias in the press, because we have a partisan press that isn't above hyping up a fake scandal.

That playbook is well-rehearsed, and it worked for Bill Clinton.

 
Within their sphere, they're titans. It's their misfortune that their sphere happens to be an industry that Trump's America gets all schadenfreudey over. 
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Posted: Oct 23, 2017 - 6:55am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Because nobody knows the Weinsteins, nobody spent years pinning their hopes on them (and are now reluctant to sabotage their own interests to do the right thing) and the Weinsteins didn't spend the last 40 years explaining to anyone who'd listen how awesome they are. The Weinsteins don't have any cheerleaders.

 
So, justice applies only if conditions are just right. Same as it ever was...
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Posted: Oct 23, 2017 - 3:58am

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 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Because nobody knows the Weinsteins, nobody spent years pinning their hopes on them (and are now reluctant to sabotage their own interests to do the right thing) and the Weinsteins didn't spend the last 40 years explaining to anyone who'd listen how awesome they are. The Weinsteins don't have any cheerleaders.

Not sure how cheeky your tongue is being here.

The Weinsteins (and only one of them is accused of being a sexual predator) are giants in their industry. They have accomplished legitimately great things, along with—like Trump—taking credit for other people's great things. They were gatekeepers to a career in show business. They could say "You'll never work in this town again" and make it stick.

Nobody was looking to either of them as the next president, but a lot of people were looking to them to write the check to finance the campaign of the next president.

The biggest difference is that in the movie business image matters. If you look sleazy enough people can walk away from you. It's not like you can stop paying taxes or start ignoring the executive branch of the federal government.

Trump's misdeeds (as long as they could be kept rumors with settlements and non-disclosure agreements) were probably more of an asset than a liability in his career as a reality TV star and glitzy real estate mogul, part of his bad boy image. If they had bubbled to the surface the way Harvey Weinstein's have—an expose of a criminal investigation—back when he was just an annoying basic cable presence his brand would have been tarnished enough that he would have dropped from sight.

Once he's a political player his image handlers can credibly claim that the allegations against him are partisan bias in the press, because we have a partisan press that isn't above hyping up a fake scandal.

That playbook is well-rehearsed, and it worked for Bill Clinton.

 
and once something is politicized it loses credibility with about 40-50% of the masses (flip-side of the same coin)

it's pretty evident that there are only two flavors of kool-aid in this country
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Posted: Oct 22, 2017 - 7:32pm

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I just had a few weeks in Europe and it was amazing how ubiquitous the concern over Trump was. If he had fans, I never met one who would admit it.

 
Well apparently, you can always find one here.
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Posted: Oct 22, 2017 - 6:25pm

I just had a few weeks in Europe and it was amazing how ubiquitous the concern over Trump was. If he had fans, I never met one who would admit it.
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Posted: Oct 22, 2017 - 1:52pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Because nobody knows the Weinsteins, nobody spent years pinning their hopes on them (and are now reluctant to sabotage their own interests to do the right thing) and the Weinsteins didn't spend the last 40 years explaining to anyone who'd listen how awesome they are. The Weinsteins don't have any cheerleaders.

Not sure how cheeky your tongue is being here.

The Weinsteins (and only one of them is accused of being a sexual predator) are giants in their industry. They have accomplished legitimately great things, along with—like Trump—taking credit for other people's great things. They were gatekeepers to a career in show business. They could say "You'll never work in this town again" and make it stick.

Nobody was looking to either of them as the next president, but a lot of people were looking to them to write the check to finance the campaign of the next president.

The biggest difference is that in the movie business image matters. If you look sleazy enough people can walk away from you. It's not like you can stop paying taxes or start ignoring the executive branch of the federal government.

Trump's misdeeds (as long as they could be kept rumors with settlements and non-disclosure agreements) were probably more of an asset than a liability in his career as a reality TV star and glitzy real estate mogul, part of his bad boy image. If they had bubbled to the surface the way Harvey Weinstein's have—an expose of a criminal investigation—back when he was just an annoying basic cable presence his brand would have been tarnished enough that he would have dropped from sight.

Once he's a political player his image handlers can credibly claim that the allegations against him are partisan bias in the press, because we have a partisan press that isn't above hyping up a fake scandal.

That playbook is well-rehearsed, and it worked for Bill Clinton.
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Posted: Oct 22, 2017 - 8:40am

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Because nobody knows the Weinsteins, nobody spent years pinning their hopes on them (and are now reluctant to sabotage their own interests to do the right thing) and the Weinsteins didn't spend the last 40 years explaining to anyone who'd listen how awesome they are. The Weinsteins don't have any cheerleaders.
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Posted: Oct 22, 2017 - 6:23am

Yeah; how come?
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Posted: Oct 21, 2017 - 6:53am

more abuse of power?

there's probably enough political conditioning to tolerate any abuse and corruption regarding russia-phobia  

Judging by Mueller's staffing choices, he may not be very interested in justice

Many Americans despise President Trump and anyone associated with him. Yet turning our system of justice into a political weapon is a danger we must guard against. 

Think back to April 1, 1940, and a world awash in turmoil, hate and fear. Revered Attorney General Robert H. Jackson assembled the United States attorneys. In remarks enshrined in the hearts of all good prosecutors, he said, “The citizen's safety lies in the prosecutor who tempers zeal with human kindness, who seeks truth and not victims, who serves the law and not factional purposes, and who approaches his task with humility.” 

Yet Mueller tapped a different sort of prosecutor to lead his investigation — his long-time friend and former counsel, Andrew Weissmann. He is not just a “tough” prosecutor. Time after time, courts have reversed Weissmann’s most touted “victories” for his tactics. This is hardly the stuff of a hero in the law.

Weissmann, as deputy and later director of the Enron Task Force, destroyed the venerable accounting firm of Arthur Andersen LLP and its 85,000 jobs worldwide — only to be reversed several years later by a unanimous Supreme Court.

Next, Weissmann creatively criminalized a business transaction between Merrill Lynch and Enron. Four Merrill executives went to prison for as long as a year. Weissmann’s team made sure they did not even get bail pending their appeals, even though the charges Weissmann concocted, like those against Andersen, were literally unprecedented.

Weissmann’s prosecution devastated the lives and families of the Merrill executives, causing enormous defense costs, unimaginable stress and torturous prison time. The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals reversed the mass of the case.

Weissmann quietly resigned from the Enron Task Force just as the judge in the Enron Broadband prosecution began excoriating Weissmann’s team and the press began catching on to Weissmann’s modus operandi.

Mueller knows this history. Is this why he tapped Weissmann to target Paul Manafort?

As Attorney General Jackson foretold: “Therein is the most dangerous power of the prosecutor: that he will pick people that he thinks he should get, rather than pick cases that need to be prosecuted.” 



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Posted: Oct 20, 2017 - 1:37pm

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I've been thinking about this a bit.  I'm not sure if you include me in the y'all camp, but I suspect you do based on my often misinterpreted view on guns. I really do want a much smaller government, but I'd like it to be much stronger in regulating what I feel are the public commons, and I'm downright socialist on clean water, air and safe food. 

I suspect we'll have a lot of disagreement on where the public commons begins and ends, and what we really have rights to as citizens, and those are all valid discussions where we are allowed to disagree. Eventually, we need to find a way to compromise and move on. If not, we mistake a stalemate for a win. 

By accepting Trumps behavior, even if not 'supporting' Trump, we collectively have now set a new standard. And while the Democrats are appropriately aghast at his behavior, they have their own It's okay if we do it problem. And it will be compounded  by our collective inability to learn lessons. I'm pretty sure that when the Democrats do eventually return to power (and they will), they will be empowered to be every bit as bad as McConnell and crew have been in the senate. And while I doubt they would resort to the twitter antics we've seen from the white house, the next Democratic president will have all the precedent they want for putting the most extreme version of their ideal in place and ignoring anyone who wasn't 'with them'. 

This pendulum is being pushed. It shows no sign of reverting to a norm. The result is not going to be good. and all the "I told you so" that everyone will feel so justified in announcing won't fix any of the destruction that has been wrought on our legacy.  Governments fall, societies transition, but when civilization ends, the definition of the result is uncivilized. 

 

"And while I doubt they would resort to the twitter antics we've seen from the white house, the next Democratic president will have all the precedent they want for putting the most extreme version of their ideal in place and ignoring anyone who wasn't 'with them'. " 
I think you might be right that the Democrats will, on some issues, be more extreme than they have in the past—for instance, I see them nominating a young and very liberal judge to the next Supreme Court opening. Frankly, after the crazy BS McConnell invented about a tradition of not considering an SC appointee in the year before an election, the GOP deserves to suffer serious payback on this point.

But I don't see this happening on bigger efforts involving long-term planning and negotiation. The big projects that the Dems want to require support from as many politicians as possible. They also call for support among big industry players who will rein in the more extreme demands of the left.

The real concern I think is that neither party will work with the other after this. It'll be interesting to see if the GOP survives a huge tax cut for the rich AND the gutting of the ACA. Pretty soon much of Trump's base will have to realize that he's seriously reamed them over.
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Posted: Oct 20, 2017 - 12:22pm

‘What Were We Talking About Again?’ Says Trump 15 Seconds Into Phone Call To Family Of Fallen Soldier


https://politics.theonion.com/what-were-we-talking-about-again-says-trump-15-secon-1819690253

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