The media/nation is on a roll trying to always partition people into a group, for some reason. Instant labelling.
Are they white/black/etc?
Are they male/female/etc?
Are they Christian/Jewish/etc?
Are they Democrat/Republican/etc?
And - tongue in cheek - it reminds me of Randy Newman so that I wonder when news reports will start subdividing people based on height. "Was the killer a short person?" Because we all hate someone, for some characteristic, so we might as well focus on some other one as an identification of horribleness while we're in the groove.
sort of an irony in this head line (i'm not sure if editors had anything to do with it)
bruni has complained about gays being stereotyped, then stereotypes republicans (to be fair he puts something like a caveat in there)
are there politicians pandering or trying to make hay from this? i'd say so, but lgbt issues have been huge losers for those opposing them
brink lindsey writes about it and how the religious right (and left) have been stream-rolled in the last ten years or so on what once was a lynchpin issue
another important point that probably isn't getting enough attention is the issue of children coerced into transitioning and are trying de-transition now at a later age
peeps can google that see that this is a real issue (and that it is causing a lot of grief and hardship)
who is responsible or liable for these somewhat irreversible procedures? when are children responsible for making a life changing decision like gender/sex reassignment?
and then realize that it is a mistake? is that cruel?
definitely a slippery slope, the intuitive answer is to let children come of age and then let them decide to have surgeries and hormone therapies, etc.
we do this already with other lifestyle decisions
i'd hope that political leaders could have some sort of rational conversation around this, but the intentional idiotic polarization rules the day
unfortunately we're at a point where the government wants to use its force to ban or mandate things what would normally be nuanced issues
because radical politics
100% agree.....damn, if it isn't italics its bold.....kids can't drive a car, can't drink in a pub, supposedly can't have sex...but can make an absolutely life-changing decision like transitioning when they don't even know who they are yet.
The lawsuits are beginning and will inevitably mount up.....people suing for being allowed to make the decision to do this when they didn't know better and now find they are not only no happier but usually a lot more unhappy and that a mistake has been made.
I thought lifestyle was more of a fashion thing, but it keeps popping up in the strangest contexts: "I don't hate the gays, I just don't like the lifestyle." Seems to be used in lieu of identity in order to trivialize.
maybe try this:
don't hate or harm anyone and someone's lifestyle or decisions how they want to live their lives is their own business
slippery slope (always. inevitably leads to bestiality or worse)
lifestyle decisions (see below)
government wants to use force (uh-uh)
I thought lifestyle was more of a fashion thing, but it keeps popping up in the strangest contexts: "I don't hate the gays, I just don't like the lifestyle." Seems to be used in lieu of identity in order to trivialize.
sort of an irony in this head line (i'm not sure if editors had anything to do with it)
bruni has complained about gays being stereotyped, then stereotypes republicans (to be fair he puts something like a caveat in there)
are there politicians pandering or trying to make hay from this? i'd say so, but lgbt issues have been huge losers for those opposing them
brink lindsey writes about it and how the religious right (and left) have been stream-rolled in the last ten years or so on what once was a lynchpin issue
another important point that probably isn't getting enough attention is the issue of children coerced into transitioning and are trying de-transition now at a later age
peeps can google that see that this is a real issue (and that it is causing a lot of grief and hardship)
who is responsible or liable for these somewhat irreversible procedures? when are children responsible for making a life changing decision like gender/sex reassignment?
and then realize that it is a mistake? is that cruel?
definitely a slippery slope, the intuitive answer is to let children come of age and then let them decide to have surgeries and hormone therapies, etc.
we do this already with other lifestyle decisions
i'd hope that political leaders could have some sort of rational conversation around this, but the intentional idiotic polarization rules the day
unfortunately we're at a point where the government wants to use its force to ban or mandate things what would normally be nuanced issues
I am glad the ludicrous nature of gay conversion therapy was brought up in another thread. Correlates to my struggle with transgenders and surgery. Firstly, I have a very strong belief that we should all have the freedom to express who we are and be proud of it. It is a core value of individualism and what makes us all unique. Our opinions on LGBQT and Hetero people are absolutely moot, we are what we are and must learn to exist and co exist with each other as we were born. Which is why I am against hormone therapy and plastic surgery to alter one's gender if they do not identify as such. If you are a man who identifies as a woman, be that. Dress how you want to dress, talk how you want to talk, you just be you. Same goes for a woman who identifies as a man, be that. Just because medical technology allows for you to artificially change genders, does it mean you should? Not to mention the moral obligations that are mostly not met for obvious reasons for future love interest and whether one divulges their birth gender or not. Just as you should not attempt to change your sexuality, why is it ok to change your gender? And why is it not ok to change your identity and cultural appropriate for all other examples except gender? Rachel Dolenz got in a lot of trouble for passing as black, Elizabeth Warren as Native American and so forth. People are intentionally blinding themselves because they identify as being blind, they are also purposely amputating limbs for the same reason (these things have happened, look them up). Why can't we just all be happy with who we are and live it? And conversely we have the same responsibility to accept others as they are.
In other words be true to yourself. Anyway, that is where I have finally landed on that and feel quite comfortable with it.
Extra emphasis on the I. I'm glad that you are finally comfortable with your position. But let me just summarize the lead in paragraph: "Be who you want to be as long as you don't do anything that sirdoseph is uncomfortable with and he will accept you as you are". I'm not really comfortable that you are able to reconcile all that.
This is my opinion and you not being comfortable with mine is yours. This does not bother me in the slightest. I hope this does not make you too uncomfortable because you opinion has an extremely low chance as in nil of affecting mine in any way. So in essence if my opinion does bother you....."You're gonna have a hard time!"
And likewise, your level of comfort with anyone else's gender identity, sexual identity, or relationship with their doctor/surgeon/psychologist/milkman/music teacher/metermaid/butcher has little meaning to those people. So be true to your 'rugged individualist' self and don't try to influence policy or opinion that impacts their ability to just be.
Oh I am fully aware of this and never indicated that my opinion was anything but that, but it is mine. I wonder if you have the same level of self awareness.
I'm fully aware of my many hypocrisies. But not really relevant as you're the one who started the morning posting a bit about 'everyone should be who I think they should be'.
I believe I said everyone should be who they are, but you are free to interpret any way you like. My sleep pattern will remain the same either way.
I am glad the ludicrous nature of gay conversion therapy was brought up in another thread. Correlates to my struggle with transgenders and surgery. Firstly, I have a very strong belief that we should all have the freedom to express who we are and be proud of it. It is a core value of individualism and what makes us all unique. Our opinions on LGBQT and Hetero people are absolutely moot, we are what we are and must learn to exist and co exist with each other as we were born. Which is why I am against hormone therapy and plastic surgery to alter one's gender if they do not identify as such. If you are a man who identifies as a woman, be that. Dress how you want to dress, talk how you want to talk, you just be you. Same goes for a woman who identifies as a man, be that. Just because medical technology allows for you to artificially change genders, does it mean you should? Not to mention the moral obligations that are mostly not met for obvious reasons for future love interest and whether one divulges their birth gender or not. Just as you should not attempt to change your sexuality, why is it ok to change your gender? And why is it not ok to change your identity and cultural appropriate for all other examples except gender? Rachel Dolenz got in a lot of trouble for passing as black, Elizabeth Warren as Native American and so forth. People are intentionally blinding themselves because they identify as being blind, they are also purposely amputating limbs for the same reason (these things have happened, look them up). Why can't we just all be happy with who we are and live it? And conversely we have the same responsibility to accept others as they are.
In other words be true to yourself. Anyway, that is where I have finally landed on that and feel quite comfortable with it.
Extra emphasis on the I. I'm glad that you are finally comfortable with your position. But let me just summarize the lead in paragraph: "Be who you want to be as long as you don't do anything that sirdoseph is uncomfortable with and he will accept you as you are". I'm not really comfortable that you are able to reconcile all that.
This is my opinion and you not being comfortable with mine is yours. This does not bother me in the slightest. I hope this does not make you too uncomfortable because you opinion has an extremely low chance as in nil of affecting mine in any way. So in essence if my opinion does bother you....."You're gonna have a hard time!"
And likewise, your level of comfort with anyone else's gender identity, sexual identity, or relationship with their doctor/surgeon/psychologist/milkman/music teacher/metermaid/butcher has little meaning to those people. So be true to your 'rugged individualist' self and don't try to influence policy or opinion that impacts their ability to just be.
Oh I am fully aware of this and never indicated that my opinion was anything but that, but it is mine. I wonder if you have the same level of self awareness.
I'm fully aware of my many hypocrisies. But not really relevant as you're the one who started the morning posting a bit about 'everyone should be who I think they should be'.
I am glad the ludicrous nature of gay conversion therapy was brought up in another thread. Correlates to my struggle with transgenders and surgery. Firstly, I have a very strong belief that we should all have the freedom to express who we are and be proud of it. It is a core value of individualism and what makes us all unique. Our opinions on LGBQT and Hetero people are absolutely moot, we are what we are and must learn to exist and co exist with each other as we were born. Which is why I am against hormone therapy and plastic surgery to alter one's gender if they do not identify as such. If you are a man who identifies as a woman, be that. Dress how you want to dress, talk how you want to talk, you just be you. Same goes for a woman who identifies as a man, be that. Just because medical technology allows for you to artificially change genders, does it mean you should? Not to mention the moral obligations that are mostly not met for obvious reasons for future love interest and whether one divulges their birth gender or not. Just as you should not attempt to change your sexuality, why is it ok to change your gender? And why is it not ok to change your identity and cultural appropriate for all other examples except gender? Rachel Dolenz got in a lot of trouble for passing as black, Elizabeth Warren as Native American and so forth. People are intentionally blinding themselves because they identify as being blind, they are also purposely amputating limbs for the same reason (these things have happened, look them up). Why can't we just all be happy with who we are and live it? And conversely we have the same responsibility to accept others as they are.
In other words be true to yourself. Anyway, that is where I have finally landed on that and feel quite comfortable with it.
Extra emphasis on the I. I'm glad that you are finally comfortable with your position. But let me just summarize the lead in paragraph: "Be who you want to be as long as you don't do anything that sirdoseph is uncomfortable with and he will accept you as you are". I'm not really comfortable that you are able to reconcile all that.
This is my opinion and you not being comfortable with mine is yours. This does not bother me in the slightest. I hope this does not make you too uncomfortable because you opinion has an extremely low chance as in nil of affecting mine in any way. So in essence if my opinion does bother you....."You're gonna have a hard time!"
And likewise, your level of comfort with anyone else's gender identity, sexual identity, or relationship with their doctor/surgeon/psychologist/milkman/music teacher/metermaid/butcher has little meaning to those people. So be true to your 'rugged individualist' self and don't try to influence policy or opinion that impacts their ability to just be.
Oh I am fully aware of this and never indicated that my opinion was anything but that, but it is mine. I wonder if you have the same level of self awareness.
I am glad the ludicrous nature of gay conversion therapy was brought up in another thread. Correlates to my struggle with transgenders and surgery. Firstly, I have a very strong belief that we should all have the freedom to express who we are and be proud of it. It is a core value of individualism and what makes us all unique. Our opinions on LGBQT and Hetero people are absolutely moot, we are what we are and must learn to exist and co exist with each other as we were born. Which is why I am against hormone therapy and plastic surgery to alter one's gender if they do not identify as such. If you are a man who identifies as a woman, be that. Dress how you want to dress, talk how you want to talk, you just be you. Same goes for a woman who identifies as a man, be that. Just because medical technology allows for you to artificially change genders, does it mean you should? Not to mention the moral obligations that are mostly not met for obvious reasons for future love interest and whether one divulges their birth gender or not. Just as you should not attempt to change your sexuality, why is it ok to change your gender? And why is it not ok to change your identity and cultural appropriate for all other examples except gender? Rachel Dolenz got in a lot of trouble for passing as black, Elizabeth Warren as Native American and so forth. People are intentionally blinding themselves because they identify as being blind, they are also purposely amputating limbs for the same reason (these things have happened, look them up). Why can't we just all be happy with who we are and live it? And conversely we have the same responsibility to accept others as they are.
In other words be true to yourself. Anyway, that is where I have finally landed on that and feel quite comfortable with it.
Extra emphasis on the I. I'm glad that you are finally comfortable with your position. But let me just summarize the lead in paragraph: "Be who you want to be as long as you don't do anything that sirdoseph is uncomfortable with and he will accept you as you are". I'm not really comfortable that you are able to reconcile all that.
This is my opinion and you not being comfortable with mine is yours. This does not bother me in the slightest. I hope this does not make you too uncomfortable because you opinion has an extremely low chance as in nil of affecting mine in any way. So in essence if my opinion does bother you....."You're gonna have a hard time!"
And likewise, your level of comfort with anyone else's gender identity, sexual identity, or relationship with their doctor/surgeon/psychologist/milkman/music teacher/metermaid/butcher has little meaning to those people. So be true to your 'rugged individualist' self and don't try to influence policy or opinion that impacts their ability to just be.
I am glad the ludicrous nature of gay conversion therapy was brought up in another thread. Correlates to my struggle with transgenders and surgery. Firstly, I have a very strong belief that we should all have the freedom to express who we are and be proud of it. It is a core value of individualism and what makes us all unique. Our opinions on LGBQT and Hetero people are absolutely moot, we are what we are and must learn to exist and co exist with each other as we were born. Which is why I am against hormone therapy and plastic surgery to alter one's gender if they do not identify as such. If you are a man who identifies as a woman, be that. Dress how you want to dress, talk how you want to talk, you just be you. Same goes for a woman who identifies as a man, be that. Just because medical technology allows for you to artificially change genders, does it mean you should? Not to mention the moral obligations that are mostly not met for obvious reasons for future love interest and whether one divulges their birth gender or not. Just as you should not attempt to change your sexuality, why is it ok to change your gender? And why is it not ok to change your identity and cultural appropriate for all other examples except gender? Rachel Dolenz got in a lot of trouble for passing as black, Elizabeth Warren as Native American and so forth. People are intentionally blinding themselves because they identify as being blind, they are also purposely amputating limbs for the same reason (these things have happened, look them up). Why can't we just all be happy with who we are and live it? And conversely we have the same responsibility to accept others as they are.
In other words be true to yourself. Anyway, that is where I have finally landed on that and feel quite comfortable with it.
Extra emphasis on the I. I'm glad that you are finally comfortable with your position. But let me just summarize the lead in paragraph: "Be who you want to be as long as you don't do anything that sirdoseph is uncomfortable with and he will accept you as you are". I'm not really comfortable that you are able to reconcile all that.
This is my opinion and you not being comfortable with mine is yours. This does not bother me in the slightest. I hope this does not make you too uncomfortable because you opinion has an extremely low chance as in nil of affecting mine in any way. So in essence if my opinion does bother you....."You're gonna have a bad time!"
I am glad the ludicrous nature of gay conversion therapy was brought up in another thread. Correlates to my struggle with transgenders and surgery. Firstly, I have a very strong belief that we should all have the freedom to express who we are and be proud of it. It is a core value of individualism and what makes us all unique. Our opinions on LGBQT and Hetero people are absolutely moot, we are what we are and must learn to exist and co exist with each other as we were born. Which is why I am against hormone therapy and plastic surgery to alter one's gender if they do not identify as such. If you are a man who identifies as a woman, be that. Dress how you want to dress, talk how you want to talk, you just be you. Same goes for a woman who identifies as a man, be that. Just because medical technology allows for you to artificially change genders, does it mean you should? Not to mention the moral obligations that are mostly not met for obvious reasons for future love interest and whether one divulges their birth gender or not. Just as you should not attempt to change your sexuality, why is it ok to change your gender? And why is it not ok to change your identity and cultural appropriate for all other examples except gender? Rachel Dolenz got in a lot of trouble for passing as black, Elizabeth Warren as Native American and so forth. People are intentionally blinding themselves because they identify as being blind, they are also purposely amputating limbs for the same reason (these things have happened, look them up). Why can't we just all be happy with who we are and live it? And conversely we have the same responsibility to accept others as they are.
In other words be true to yourself.
Anyway, that is where I have finally landed on that and feel quite comfortable with it.
Extra emphasis on the I. I'm glad that you are finally comfortable with your position. But let me just summarize the lead in paragraph: "Be who you want to be as long as you don't do anything that sirdoseph is uncomfortable with and he will accept you as you are". I'm not really comfortable that you are able to reconcile all that.
