![](https://img.radioparadise.com/covers/m/B000005GXT.jpg)
Avg rating:
Your rating:
Total ratings: 4784
Length: 5:21
Plays (last 30 days): 1
Burn another one & it will all make sense! ....By that time, Herbie's Maiden Voyage will be playing (The one with sailboat on the cover)!!
![devil pimp](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/devil_pimp.gif)
![dance](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/eusa_dance.gif)
Go listen to two albums:
Kind of Blue and Favorite Things
then post a comment
So the average RP listener likes jazz? really?
I do.
Not all jazz. Don't like the, maybe you call it avant garde jazz? sometimes frenetic, usually sounding like musicians taking turns solo-ing their asses off. Gets on my nerves. I know they are supremely talented and skillful musicians and they are jamming together and there is joy in it, but I don't feel it.
this is what happens every time I think I have something worthwhile to say: I don't
Burn another one & it will all make sense! ....By that time, Herbie's Maiden Voyage will be playing (The one with sailboat on the cover)!!
![devil pimp](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/devil_pimp.gif)
![dance](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/eusa_dance.gif)
At RP everyone is above average!
True. At Lake Radio Paradise, the listeners are all...above average!
Ummm... Herbie doesn't play trumpet, he's always been the keyboardist on his records.
Another jazz legend, Freddie Hubbard is playing trumpet on this track. All great composers let other musicians shine when the composition calls for it.
YES!!
biddy-biddy bop. funky, funky.
And, that is a GOOD THING! Thanx RP!
![angel](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/eusa_angel.gif)
![clap](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/eusa_clap.gif)
![dance](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/eusa_dance.gif)
At RP everyone is above average!
Herbie can make that trumpet sing!
Ummm... Herbie doesn't play trumpet, he's always been the keyboardist on his records.
Another jazz legend, Freddie Hubbard is playing trumpet on this track. All great composers let other musicians shine when the composition calls for it.
This HH track is a 9, and if the US3 track were played here, I'd probably rate it an 8. Long Live RP!!
The US3 track is fantastic! From your keyboard to Bill's ears!
![chill pill](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/chillpill.gif)
Album name isn't Empyrean Isles?
Yes, for sure; Empyrean Isles is the studio album. We're hearing the cut off of Herbie's Blue Note Records Greatest Hits:
Herbie Hancock - Cantaloupe Island. [The Best of Blue Note Records] And....
If BillG updates the album info to the studio album, I'll go +1 to 10. Either way I'll say "Long Live Radio Paradise!!"
![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/b9ilXLsz0KE/hqdefault.jpg)
Rushing or dragging? Both!
This 1964 piece beats 99% of current offerings. What, really, is there to talk about?
![banana split](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/bananasplit.gif)
but you got to keep them away from math
sometimes they flip out on it
To quote Mr. Duke, "If it sounds good, it is good."
This sounds gorgeous!
fine liberal arts institution
So the average RP listener likes jazz? really?
I do.
Not all jazz. Don't like the, maybe you call it avant garde jazz? sometimes frenetic, usually sounding like musicians taking turns solo-ing their asses off. Gets on my nerves. I know they are supremely talented and skillful musicians and they are jamming together and there is joy in it, but I don't feel it.
this is what happens every time I think I have something worthwhile to say: I don't
I don't know that the average listener likes jazz but clearly the above average one does.
I don't think most "true" fans of any music genre care much about whether a song is accessible or not.
What does "painfully accessible" even mean?
I don't think most "true" fans of any music genre care much about whether a song is accessible or not.
Agree. To assume "that true jazz fans" must only love the obscure, inaccessible-by-the-masses sounds of avant garde jazz is to assume that jazz lovers are elitists and automatically reject anything that appeals to the intellectual peasantry. I've heard Wynton Marsalis describe modern hiphop as reverently as he admires the complexities of the Bach concerto in D for Trumpet. To love music is to love music, regardless of who else loves it, no? Let's not create a cultural divide where one doesn't really exist
So the average RP listener likes jazz? really?
At RP everyone is above average!
hi hats be like
![biggrin](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_biggrin.gif)
![drummer](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_drummer.gif)
This goes for just about any genre of music as far as I'm concerned. When I was younger I'd say "I hate country" or "I hate rap" but my knowledge of the genres was limited to commercial radio, and I later found out I was missing out on the good stuff!
Was just thinking the same thing!
![laughing](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/smiley-laughing.gif)
The prospect of working out a stiff 9 fills my mind with so many wrong thoughts
![stop](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_stop.gif)
That is such a good version!
They were mostly sampling Blue Note albums and hoping obscurity would keep them out of trouble.
Then one day, they got a phone call from someone at Blue Note.
**gulp**
"Hey, we notice you guys mostly use our stuff for samples . . ."
***oh boy, here comes the C&D! How much is this gonna cost us?***
"If you guys sign with us, we can get you cleaner samples and a bigger library to pull from."
um let us think on that . . . . YES!
That is such a good version!
cely wrote:
9 for this is just obvious, but I do wonder what the true jazz folks think about something so painfully accessible.
I think that elitist jazz "snobbery" is every bit as bulls%*t as is expressing disdain for folks who don't "get" Radiohead or Pink Floyd, or anything else for that matter. Like Ihatethissong said below, you either like it or you don't. It's not fair to bolt some kind of academic umbrella over it in an attempt to exclude us dumbasses.
TRUE Jazz fans respect everything Herbie Hancock gave to the music. His mastery and contribution are absolutely undeniable. Jazz is the most fluid of musical forms. Anyone that claims to be a "true" jazz fan that only likes a certain subset or sub genre of jazz is no TRUE jazz fan. What MAKES (or made) artists like Herbie or Miles or Coltrane what they are/were is exactly what drives some of these people away when the artist in question moves on. If you love herbie Hancock, you should at least APPRECIATE evrything he brought to the music, from his early accompaniment, to his Headhunters material, to Rock-it. Same with Miles. If you like his bebop but hate his Tutu album, He left YOU behind, not the other way around. When Bebop came along the old guard reacted the same way.
But if I could remix it, I would eliminate most of the cymbals......
I do.
Not all jazz. Don't like the, maybe you call it avant garde jazz? sometimes frenetic, usually sounding like musicians taking turns solo-ing their asses off. Gets on my nerves. I know they are supremely talented and skillful musicians and they are jamming together and there is joy in it, but I don't feel it.
this is what happens every time I think I have something worthwhile to say: I don't
Ths is pretty much how I feel about that sort of jazz, muscial onanism. What RP has made me realise is that there are so many types and some of it I love, some I hate. It's lazy to proclaim I love jazz or I hate jazz. It's like saying I hate food.
This tune is smooth as cocoa butter, and gets my vote. Other than that it's all pretty much about the drumming for me as far as jazz is concerned.
cely wrote:
9 for this is just obvious, but I do wonder what the true jazz folks think about something so painfully accessible.
Proclivities wrote:
I don't think most "true" fans of any music genre care much about whether a song is accessible or not.
I think that elitist jazz "snobbery" is every bit as bulls%*t as is expressing disdain for folks who don't "get" Radiohead or Pink Floyd, or anything else for that matter. Like Ihatethissong said below, you either like it or you don't. It's not fair to bolt some kind of academic umbrella over it in an attempt to exclude us dumbasses.
particularly dig Tina Turner singing Joni
![clap](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_clap.gif)
Nice to see them pay little deference to the old guys.
saw that too....
"It must schwing"....
![lol](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_lol.gif)
Nice to see them pay little deference to the old guys.
------------
memoryboxer wrote:
I first came to this song through it's being sampled by US3 back in '92, for their break out single Cantaloop (Flip Fantasia). They used a lot of Blue Note catalogue samples in their amazing blend of jazz and hip hop. That they chose this sublime riff as their starting point only makes sense; such a fabulous groove. These days I'm equally happy with both Hancock and US3; just makes me smile and wanna bop.
------------
One of the reasons I really like sampled music in songs (and why I like a lot of older rap & R&B) is that it helps broaden ones musical landscape, often without knowing it. Even if the original source is known, it helps pull out the sounds - and in the case of this song, I also had the US3 disc and as my love for jazz and blues blossomed a few years later, I too found a smile on my face when either the HH or the US3 track was playing, and I'm back in my early college years and it's pretty cool that a small song sample can create so much in such little space. This HH track is a 9, and if the US3 track were played here, I'd probably rate it an 8. Long Live RP!!
Not unlike how Looney Tunes introduced many of us to classical music, including opera.
Really enjoyed US3's Cantaloop (and most of their album) when it came out, plus the fun remixes on the Get Shorty soundtrack. Had never really appreciated HH's work until a few years ago (listening to RP), liking it very much.
I don't think most "true" fans of any music genre care much about whether a song is accessible or not.
One of the reasons I really like sampled music in songs (and why I like a lot of older rap & R&B) is that it helps broaden ones musical landscape, often without knowing it. Even if the original source is known, it helps pull out the sounds - and in the case of this song, I also had the US3 disc and as my love for jazz and blues blossomed a few years later, I too found a smile on my face when either the HH or the US3 track was playing, and I'm back in my early college years and it's pretty cool that a small song sample can create so much in such little space. This HH track is a 9, and if the US3 track were played here, I'd probably rate it an 8. Long Live RP!!
9.5 :)
One of the reasons I really like sampled music in songs (and why I like a lot of older rap & R&B) is that it helps broaden ones musical landscape, often without knowing it. Even if the original source is known, it helps pull out the sounds - and in the case of this song, I also had the US3 disc and as my love for jazz and blues blossomed a few years later, I too found a smile on my face when either the HH or the US3 track was playing, and I'm back in my early college years and it's pretty cool that a small song sample can create so much in such little space. This HH track is a 9, and if the US3 track were played here, I'd probably rate it an 8. Long Live RP!!
I do.
Not all jazz. Don't like the, maybe you call it avant garde jazz? sometimes frenetic, usually sounding like musicians taking turns solo-ing their asses off. Gets on my nerves. I know they are supremely talented and skillful musicians and they are jamming together and there is joy in it, but I don't feel it.
this is what happens every time I think I have something worthwhile to say: I don't
Biddy biddy bop.
Sublime and supreme.
Not to change the subject, but to the Carlos Santana dissers on this site, who call him a noodler, etc., look at the 4 names on this album, and get even with the fact that Santana has played and recorded with them, multiple times. He, Herbie, Ron Carter and Tony Williams have the tracks, the LPs and CDs to prove it. Just sayin'.
![{#Clap} {#Clap}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/eusa_clap.gif)
That's cool, but I live and work in a city.
This makes me want to sit on the porch of an isolated Appalachian cabin, in the sunshine, looking across the holler at fifty different shades of greenness .... with a cold slice of cantaloupe waiting.
I had a ride cymbal, a Paiste Signature 22" Rough Ride, that sounded very much like Tony's "Nefertiti" ride. Probably should have kept that one.
"ear friendly" ! cheers (clink)
such beautiful music
![{#Daisy} {#Daisy}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/daisy.gif)
![{#Wink} {#Wink}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/smiley-wink.gif)
It is outstanding. Maybe not 100% my personal taste, but nevertheless. True art is not a question of personal preference.
![https://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/4024/cover_1542014122009.jpg](https://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/4024/cover_1542014122009.jpg)
Not to change the subject, but to the Carlos Santana dissers on this site, who call him a noodler, etc., look at the 4 names on this album, and get even with the fact that Santana has played and recorded with them, multiple times. He, Herbie, Ron Carter and Tony Williams have the tracks, the LPs and CDs to prove it. Just sayin'.
And Herbie is a proud graduate of Grinell College in Grinell, Iowa! In the corn fields.
But the city is located on old highway 6, which is the road Jack Kerouac hitch hiked to Denver, in "On The Road".
Go figure.
![https://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/4024/cover_1542014122009.jpg](https://www.progarchives.com/progressive_rock_discography_covers/4024/cover_1542014122009.jpg)
Us 3 get that
![{#Lol} {#Lol}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_lol.gif)
![{#Drummer} {#Drummer}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_drummer.gif)
![{#Music} {#Music}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_music.gif)
forget us3 herbie has a lot more to offer
Wait, wait a minute!
Up voted. Thumbed up. Smiley added. Link shared. Promoted comment. All that stuff.
Well said Lizard, well said.
Awesome song, and comments worthy of a bump to the top:)
Transport Tycoon :)
![{#Daisy} {#Daisy}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/daisy.gif)
![{#Daisy} {#Daisy}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/daisy.gif)
![{#Daisy} {#Daisy}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/daisy.gif)
forget us3 herbie has a lot more to offer
![{#Bananapiano} {#Bananapiano}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/bananapiano.gif)
![{#Notworthy} {#Notworthy}](https://img.radioparadise.com/emoji/icon_notworthy.gif)
At RP everyone is above average!
LIke the children at Lake Woebegone.