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The Veils — The Leavers Dance
Album: The Runaway Found
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Released: 2004
Length: 4:04
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Berenice
My hands and feet are worn
As much as yours are
And though my head, my hands, my heart are forming
They still feel worlds apart

Berenice
Beneath it all you're golden
And that's all I'm feeding on
And though my head, my hands are growing colder
We move in circles now

Berenice there's no release at all
That's not worth dying for

Berenice
My hands and feet are worn
As much as yours are

Berenice there's no release at all
That's not worth dying for

And it's not for our desires but our design that we all fall apart.

Berenice there's no release at all
That's worth all this crying for
And down my knees and down my knees and down?
'cause we all fall down
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An obscure one of one of my favourite bands. Where else than on Radio Paradise…?!
Posted 6 months ago by bodelange    [ Reply ]
 CreativePencil wrote:

A liquid eloquence; reminded me of Thom Yorke pretty immediately, but not in a way he was copied to reach the same cathedral heights: a song that stood beside its students to teach how it should be sung. Thus, lovely.



That's what it reminds me of a Radiohead - Thom Yorke song!  Thanks.
Posted 7 months ago by brosen    [ Reply ]
just made this a nine, great tune
Posted 10 months ago by jp33442    [ Reply ]
derivative, poorly
Posted 1 year ago by pbouchar    [ Reply ]
Love it
Posted 1 year ago by diggyduffy    [ Reply ]
Sounds very similar to The Temper Trap.
Posted 1 year ago by captbradders    [ Reply ]
me loves me some jangly guitars backing up lyrics about lost or uncertain love
Posted 1 year ago by kingart    [ Reply ]
A great new find. Precisely why RP is so good.
Posted 1 year ago by david.gautrey    [ Reply ]
 jerund wrote:

Tired indie bass = all eighth notes on the root only.  




You're right, of course but who said a song must have a complicated arrangement to be enjoyed?
Posted 1 year ago by itsme_bygolly    [ Reply ]
so many bitches… I like it. it has a good feel to it.
Posted 2 years ago by tm    [ Reply ]
Middling track...decent foundational stuff...but man, do I love that album cover photo...very cool.
Posted 2 years ago by sfoster66    [ Reply ]
As if one Billy Corgan isn't enough?
Posted 2 years ago by Jelani    [ Reply ]
I love that persistent bass
Posted 2 years ago by TheKing2    [ Reply ]
Tired indie bass = all eighth notes on the root only.  
Posted 2 years ago by jerund    [ Reply ]
 MattRudely wrote:

What's happened Lassie?  Has the record fall down a well?


This made me spit coffee out:)
Posted 2 years ago by jp33442    [ Reply ]
I like it - but I get the ghost of an echo of another choon!? 
... anyone know it? Echo & the Bunnymen?
Posted 3 years ago by Johnny_Alpha    [ Reply ]
 kingart wrote:

Shimmering sound. Wistful but hopeful. Danceable. Blastable. Nice. 



takes me back to an...alternative time...
Posted 3 years ago by rezadent    [ Reply ]
What's happened Lassie?  Has the record fall down a well?
Posted 3 years ago by MattRudely    [ Reply ]
Cover art saved it from being a "1"
Posted 3 years ago by Wonderloaf    [ Reply ]
huh, another voice I've yet to appreciate...is Rufus Wainright next?
but like the last tune (Smashing Pumpkins), lyrics are interesting...
Posted 3 years ago by xcranky_yankee    [ Reply ]
 ThePoose wrote:
Thinly veiled U2
 
Thinly veiled poor music  discernment. Without the Edge who aside from Bono's voice accounts for the distinctive sound of U2, this band sounds different. This may be influenced by U2 but not to the point of being derivative as you suggest. 8.
Posted 4 years ago by itsme_bygolly    [ Reply ]
Thinly veiled U2
Posted 4 years ago by ThePoose    [ Reply ]
 cannand186 wrote:
I like this song. Keep up the good work Bill.
 
I'm with you.
Posted 4 years ago by jahgirl8    [ Reply ]
I like this song. Keep up the good work Bill.
Posted 5 years ago by cannand186    [ Reply ]
Whiny noodling, a sixth grade level of musicianship, right up there with Coldplay. Yawn. Play some STEREOPHONICS. Superior songwriting. Better gravelly voice. This is lame. Love RP!
Posted 9 years ago by Segue    [ Reply ]
I find this (and the album) enjoyable.  They say the drugs don't work.  I put it to you that they frequently do.  Suede, for example.
Posted 9 years ago by DaidyBoy    [ Reply ]
slur slur. sorry dude, it's really a bit too much. psd.
Posted 9 years ago by joempie    [ Reply ]
He needs to drop the heroin habit.
Posted 10 years ago by ccwcool    [ Reply ]
 MilesW wrote:
I don't want to get into an argument about whether this song is good or not, but I'm just SO tired of hearing it.  Ugh.  {#Beat}

 
Hey, are you trying to pick a fight? 
Posted 10 years ago by Webfoot    [ Reply ]
I don't want to get into an argument about whether this song is good or not, but I'm just SO tired of hearing it.  Ugh.  {#Beat}
Posted 10 years ago by MilesW    [ Reply ]
Love this song. 9 for now... may move up in time.
Posted 10 years ago by scrubbrush    [ Reply ]
frankly, if this band were never played on ANY RADIO, EVER AGAIN, the world would be a better place. them and stereophonics.
Posted 10 years ago by adpucci    [ Reply ]
Wonderfully quirky. I wonder if these guys influenced Sonic Youth?
Posted 11 years ago by Krispian    [ Reply ]
Shimmering sound. Wistful but hopeful. Danceable. Blastable. Nice. 
Posted 11 years ago by kingart    [ Reply ]
Love this song.
Posted 11 years ago by Bridieboo    [ Reply ]
 Ptijoc wrote:
So great song. Thank you RP to make me know these fabulous song.
 
What's up, Froggy?
Posted 11 years ago by Stingray    [ Reply ]
So great song. Thank you RP to make me know these fabulous song.
Posted 11 years ago by Ptijoc    [ Reply ]
WHERE THE HECK ARE SONGS FROM THE NEW NICK CAVE wonder-album?

FIND THIS SONG TO BE ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE (with an

annoying voice).


THIS IS STADIUM-OPERA - not Rock. Certainly not!


Posted 11 years ago by Stingray    [ Reply ]
 gypsyman wrote:
This entire album is a work of art. I own it, and I love it
 
x2.  One of my favorites
Posted 11 years ago by dcoy    [ Reply ]
The more I listen to this song the more I love it. For me, there is something about the way it is sung ; the; how do you describe the notes used and how they are put together? anyway, the notes, the voice, the lyrics work all work perfectly together.  Emotion is what I hear here and I love this song and hope it continues to get airplay.
Posted 11 years ago by nikki54    [ Reply ]
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

#listentosomafminstead

Now, coming in your ears live from Londinium Ingurlandshire, Chi-Chi Colour Supplement!!!!!!!!!!
Posted 11 years ago by richlister    [ Reply ]
This entire album is a work of art. I own it, and I love it for its utter defiance. Of what? I don't care.
Posted 11 years ago by DD gypsyman    [ Reply ]
 fredriley wrote:
...Slag off songs by all means (and this song deserves a good slagging, IMO), but use criticisms that have some meaning, or just say that it plain sucks. Using a chi-chi colour supplement word like "derivative" is just a weak attempt to give your dislike of a song some objective backing.

 
Chi-Chi Colour Supplement = good band name.
Posted 11 years ago by Proclivities    [ Reply ]
A liquid eloquence; reminded me of Thom Yorke pretty immediately, but not in a way he was copied to reach the same cathedral heights: a song that stood beside its students to teach how it should be sung. Thus, lovely.

Posted 11 years ago by CreativePencil    [ Reply ]
 LizK wrote:
He sounds more than a little like Thom Yorke, the Radiohead guy.   {#Music}

4/22  Candy the Norwich terrier likes to sit close to speakers when this comes on.    {#Tongue} {#Drool}
 
Candy's out watching the Dallas-Redskins game, and I can't get away, what with the Allmans and this wonderful thing too.
Posted 11 years ago by LizK    [ Reply ]
The segue from the Allman Brothers to this was just too jarring.  After a different song I might have liked it but coming after "Dreams" it just sounds vacuous and whiny.  I will wait to hear it again before giving it a rating.
Posted 12 years ago by WereTrout    [ Reply ]
Made me look it up. Deserves an 8. 
Posted 12 years ago by smartn1    [ Reply ]
Off-setting a posting of mine from earlier today, this one goes up one:  8 —> 9
Posted 12 years ago by philbertr    [ Reply ]
 andrello wrote:

That's what I did minutes ago :-)

 
+1
Posted 12 years ago by Beinte    [ Reply ]
...Those tail lights grace more than 1 album sleeve/jacket/case. Pretty iconic. O ya - the songs worth an 7 by me (plus 1 for the tail lights)
Posted 12 years ago by drivingunit103    [ Reply ]
He sounds more than a little like Thom Yorke, the Radiohead guy.   {#Music}

4/22  Candy the Norwich terrier likes to sit close to speakers when this comes on.    {#Tongue} {#Drool}
Posted 12 years ago by LizK    [ Reply ]
NICEY........7 TO AN 8.....
Posted 12 years ago by Jazbo    [ Reply ]
 tpa29970 wrote:
 Is this fine art?  I don't know.  But crank it up!
 
No, this is not fine art at all.  That being said, I really enjoy this song in a "brain-rester" kinda way.  I don't have to digest it at all, it's like icing.  It doesn't have any depth and it does one thing, but it does it well.

Posted 12 years ago by Byronape    [ Reply ]
good timing... dig this song at the moment
Posted 13 years ago by jersey_birdman    [ Reply ]
Hmm, lotsa hatin' for this song. I kinda like it.

Posted 13 years ago by On_The_Beach    [ Reply ]
Derivative, repetitive, whiny caca. and then some!!

Posted 13 years ago by Sp3o    [ Reply ]
Diggin this
Posted 13 years ago by Johnny_Wave    [ Reply ]
 Segue wrote:
Derivative, repetitive, whiny caca. 
 
And again, the adjective "derivative" used as a negative criticism. Go on, then, tell us a work of music that's not derivative of something. No, can't think of one? That's because there isn't one. After thousands of years of music-making by untold billions of humans, there is nothing truly original in music. Or maybe you meant it as a neutral adjective, in which case what's it derivative of?

Slag off songs by all means (and this song deserves a good slagging, IMO), but use criticisms that have some meaning, or just say that it plain sucks. Using a chi-chi colour supplement word like "derivative" is just a weak attempt to give your dislike of a song some objective backing.

Posted 13 years ago by fredriley    [ Reply ]
The singer has a very irritating James Cagney gangster nasal twang going on. 
Posted 13 years ago by Hannio    [ Reply ]
The Veils have definitely not broken up, but have left their London-based record label, Rough Trade. They have just recorded a self-funded EP titled Troubles of the Brain which will be released on January 24, 2011, and the new songs are great - I heard a rough mix. If you like 'The Leaver's Dance' you should have listened to the two albums that followed, Nux Vomica (2006) and Sun Gangs (2009).  They're both great albums, and Finn's voice (and songwriting talents) just keep getting better.  It's hard for new bands to carry on working as illegal downloads cut into earnings so much these days - hope they can carry on after the new EP.
Posted 13 years ago by respice_finem    [ Reply ]

This is what happens when you're in the "lucky star". The worst thing is that not every day is Christmas...


Posted 13 years ago by calypsus_1    [ Reply ]
 scrubbrush wrote:
8——>9
 
That's what I did minutes ago :-)

Posted 14 years ago by andrello    [ Reply ]
 kaybee wrote:
This song has a very interesting effect on me.  Some days I really like the singer's voice.  Other days, like today, I have to mute.{#Headache}

 
And today is a turn the volume way up day! {#Dancingbanana}

I wonder if anyone else here has a variable reaction to this song.  I can't think of any other song that does this, and it's the voice.  Oddly enough, I think it's really neat that the guy's voice affects me like that.

Posted 14 years ago by kaybee    [ Reply ]

I really enjoy The Veils and have only heard them played on RP. It seems like love/hate on the vocals from many posters. I personally like the leads vocals. They're a good band however I don't think they're still together.


Posted 14 years ago by eroz    [ Reply ]
8——>9
Posted 14 years ago by scrubbrush    [ Reply ]
{#Hearteyes}
Posted 14 years ago by soulcollision    [ Reply ]
spot on analysis, with snow patrol thrown in too; sounds good mind

 wingfinger wrote:
Sounds to me a bit like Coldplay backing up the singer from Stereophonics.
 


Posted 14 years ago by drews    [ Reply ]
first listen... love the lyrics..
Posted 14 years ago by soulcollision    [ Reply ]
 boober wrote:
I like this song,this group,this singer.Fire away at that comment.
 

No argument here! +1
Posted 14 years ago by Bosami    [ Reply ]
I like it.  How's the rest of the CD?
Posted 14 years ago by Webfoot    [ Reply ]
 Forest267 wrote:
Checked to see if this was a new Radiohead song...
 
Same here.

Posted 14 years ago by Imkirok    [ Reply ]
I think the more I like a song the more I comment on it(if you have nothing good to say...don't say it).But in this case,there are way too many negative comments....yet an average rating of 6.6=Pretty good
HMMMMMMMM!
BTW
I like this song,this group,this singer.Fire away at that comment.
Posted 14 years ago by boober    [ Reply ]
 tpa29970 wrote:
I half-agree with many of the negative comments here.  But still:  Whenever I hear the opening notes to this song, the volume knob gets a firm clockwise twist.   Is this fine art?  I don't know.  But crank it up!
 
Well said!  My thoughts exactly.  (Come on, folks, sometimes you just need to give your frontal cortex a rest and let the limbic system have its way.  Try whole brain thinking for a change.)


Posted 14 years ago by philbertr    [ Reply ]
I half-agree with many of the negative comments here.  But still:  Whenever I hear the opening notes to this song, the volume knob gets a firm clockwise twist.   Is this fine art?  I don't know.  But crank it up!
Posted 14 years ago by tpa29970    [ Reply ]
 crockydile wrote:
Nice. {#Jump}

Pathetic singing. Drug induced? {#Think}
 

Crocky - which is it?

I like it. Yeah - singer has a distinct voice that I can see not appealing to everybody. But it fits the material very well - a solid 7 for me.
Posted 14 years ago by Bosami    [ Reply ]
 le_colonel wrote:

He went on to make two more albums both of which are at least as good as this one possibly even better.

 
Not saying much - only had one way to go ;)

Posted 14 years ago by coccyx    [ Reply ]
Sounds to me a bit like Coldplay backing up the singer from Stereophonics.
Posted 14 years ago by wingfinger    [ Reply ]
Pathetic singing. Drug induced? {#Think}
Posted 14 years ago by crockydile    [ Reply ]
Stop whining!!

Would be very good if these guys were in high school.

Derivative, repetitive, whiny caca. 
Posted 14 years ago by Segue    [ Reply ]
 KevinM wrote:
To Coldplay'sy to me. Coldplay sux, this one does too
 

I agree with the coldplay statement but this is ok, not great but ok
Posted 14 years ago by scooterdog    [ Reply ]
To Coldplay'sy to me. Coldplay sux, this one does too
Posted 14 years ago by KevinM    [ Reply ]
 cosmiclint wrote:
I think what this kid achieved with this album is quite remarkable. Don't know what he's been up to since, but he can be proud of the music he created for this album.
 
He went on to make two more albums both of which are at least as good as this one possibly even better.

Posted 14 years ago by le_colonel    [ Reply ]
 DaveInVA wrote:
9 points for the '59 Caddy, 3 points for the song = 6
 
{#Yes}
Posted 14 years ago by isayhoomhom    [ Reply ]
Nice. {#Jump}
Posted 14 years ago by crockydile    [ Reply ]
Checked to see if this was a new Radiohead song...
Posted 14 years ago by Forest267    [ Reply ]
 tpa29970 wrote:
Thanks to an earlier commenter, I now find myself humming this song sitting on the can.
 
I was humming "All the Young Dudes" this morning after hearing it here on RP a day or two ago. :-(
Posted 14 years ago by isayhoomhom    [ Reply ]
Thanks to an earlier commenter, I now find myself humming this song sitting on the can.
Posted 14 years ago by tpa29970    [ Reply ]
I think what this kid achieved with this album is quite remarkable. Don't know what he's been up to since, but he can be proud of the music he created for this album.
Posted 14 years ago by cosmiclint    [ Reply ]
This song has a very interesting effect on me.  Some days I really like the singer's voice.  Other days, like today, I have to mute.

Posted 14 years ago by kaybee    [ Reply ]
The singer sounds like Ozzy to me...  {#Think}
Posted 15 years ago by Leatherpoker    [ Reply ]
9 points for the '59 Caddy, 3 points for the song = 6
Posted 15 years ago by DaveInSaoMiguel    [ Reply ]
 conglif wrote:
Sorry to say this (and I've put it off for a long time)...

...But this record has always sounded to me as if it is an intro/outro in search of a song.

There; I said it!



 
Exactly. What I was thinking. Or perhaps a dynamic bridge with no build-up or climax.

Plus, the guy is suuuch a whiner. I'm thinking he's in love with Coldplay.

Posted 15 years ago by DarceySuzanne    [ Reply ]
Sorry to say this (and I've put it off for a long time)...

...But this record has always sounded to me as if it is an intro/outro in search of a song.

There; I said it!



Posted 15 years ago by conglif    [ Reply ]
Can you say staccato? I find it interesting how many really good songs have a staccato rhythm. Think about it, how many can you name?
Posted 15 years ago by leathepea    [ Reply ]
the guy fr Nottinham , UK and his comment had me laughing. Terrible to get bathroom humor, but we're only human. 

Have fun!

No comment:  this one is a medium for me. maybe a 5 
Posted 15 years ago by paulpaar    [ Reply ]
I didn't care for this much the first few times.  But now I crank it.   This song is just ever so much better when cranked.
Posted 15 years ago by tpa29970    [ Reply ]
 soundside wrote:
though usually i'm obsessed with lyrics... i find there is something to be said for songs where the lyrics take a backstep to using the voice like a raw instrument.
 

Wow, interesting insight.  Never thought of that, but suppose I should have.
Posted 15 years ago by philbertr    [ Reply ]
peter_james_bond wrote:
Papernapkin wrote:
oh mew oh si so sa fo don min me no we ar so fo

Oh so that's what he's singing {#Lol}

Oy!  D'you mind?  I give this an 8!  It's great, man.
Posted 15 years ago by lawman    [ Reply ]
 Papernapkin wrote:
oh mew oh si so sa fo don min me no we ar so fo
 
Oh so that's what he's singing {#Lol}
Posted 15 years ago by peter_james_bond    [ Reply ]
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.  If a generation is imitating the style, it follows they liked that style and felt it worthy of emulation.  Popularity can certainly make a style tiresome... it does NOT necessarily mean it was worthless to begin with.

 jedley wrote:
U2's The Edge ruined an entire generation of guitar players, making them lazy and repetitive. This song is yet further proof.
 


Posted 15 years ago by greyfin10    [ Reply ]
jedley wrote:
U2's The Edge ruined an entire generation of guitar players, making them lazy and repetitive. This song is yet further proof.

Wow, Edge must have some kinda super powers.  {#Razz}
Posted 15 years ago by squidish    [ Reply ]
Believe it or not, some of us like this style. jedley wrote:
U2's The Edge ruined an entire generation of guitar players, making them lazy and repetitive. This song is yet further proof.
 


Posted 15 years ago by 1wolfy    [ Reply ]
 jedley wrote:
U2's The Edge ruined an entire generation of guitar players, making them lazy and repetitive. This song is yet further proof.
 

Interesting and good point.
Posted 15 years ago by SweTex    [ Reply ]
Ahh... the '59 Eldorado! 

Posted 15 years ago by MojoJojo    [ Reply ]
U2's The Edge ruined an entire generation of guitar players, making them lazy and repetitive. This song is yet further proof.
Posted 15 years ago by jedley    [ Reply ]
I love songs that aren't afraid to let the ending decay like it should. :-)
Posted 15 years ago by chirpie    [ Reply ]
Unique singer....I likey
Posted 15 years ago by 1wolfy    [ Reply ]
Good to hear this again. I haven't listened to this album in a while. Would love to hear some of the (just as good) material from their second album on RP. Maybe I'll upload some.

Posted 15 years ago by le_colonel    [ Reply ]
Every time this starts, I think it's going to be 10,000 Maniacs. Every. Time.
Posted 15 years ago by kyleminor    [ Reply ]
Reminds me of the singer/guitarist from Big Wreck, Ian Thornley
Posted 15 years ago by BoneRoller    [ Reply ]
9 {#Arrow} 10
Posted 15 years ago by rtwingo    [ Reply ]
Brilliant singing.
Posted 15 years ago by jhorton    [ Reply ]
Sounds a lot like the Stereophonics.
Posted 15 years ago by deanofox    [ Reply ]
Kitchens of Distinction anyone?
Posted 15 years ago by NatureDeficit    [ Reply ]
I like it in spite of, or perhaps because of the rather annoying caterwauling quality that sneaks into his voice.  This song appears to be growing on me.
Posted 16 years ago by kaybee    [ Reply ]
though usually i'm obsessed with lyrics... i find there is something to be said for songs where the lyrics take a backstep to using the voice like a raw instrument.
Posted 16 years ago by soundside    [ Reply ]
Coldplay with a cold.

Just kidding, really like this.
Posted 16 years ago by sfListener    [ Reply ]
This guy sounds like he's straining to get a big log out ;-)
Posted 16 years ago by fredriley    [ Reply ]
The video to this is a bit bizarre.....And the kid with the ballon at the end? To release us from non-sense? Too bad it took a video to make some sense of his vocals.

Posted 16 years ago by mgfitz    [ Reply ]
  Is there an NRBQ riff these guys HAVEN'T stolen?  {#Lol}
Posted 16 years ago by bokey    [ Reply ]