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Posted: Mar 1, 2009 - 9:30am

 cookinlover wrote:

It's always good to be on the cutting edge. {#Lol}

 
I found a Betamax deck in the attic!  It looks like a squirrel and some wasps fought over it.

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Posted: Mar 1, 2009 - 9:25am

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Um, wrong.  Look at the date of my original posting - almost a year and a half ago.  The region free DVD player arrived.  The PAL DVD of Riget arrived.  All hooked up fine and have been viewed. So much for expertise.

 
It's always good to be on the cutting edge. {#Lol}
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Posted: Mar 1, 2009 - 7:42am

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Then you're still not going to be able to view the DVD on your TV set {"I'm disinclined (and I suspect dionysius is as well) to sit in front of a 14" monitor in office chairs to watch a movie, when we've got a 34" HDTV downstairs with a reclining loveseat."}.  The DVD player is still going to put out a 576i/50 video signal that is incompatible with a 60Hz TV.  Many newer PAL TV sets are capable of displaying 60Hz PAL60 and sometimes even 480i/60 NTSC video.  But I haven't seen a TV for sale in the US (outside of specialty shops) that can play PAL or SECAM video.

If you want to view that PAL DVD on your 34" HD TV, you'll probably need a scan converter, which is not an inexpensive piece of equipment.  I've heard anecdotal stories of some HD TV sets that can display a PAL signal, but have never seen one myself.  Maybe you'll get lucky, but don't be surprised if it doesn't work.

I don't mean to be a wet blanket.  I've been dealing with standards conversion ever since I went to work for a PBS station that got the occasional PAL feed from the BBC.  IME standards conversion is trickier than it seems, unless you're using a computer.

 

Um, wrong.  Look at the date of my original posting - almost a year and a half ago.  The region free DVD player arrived.  The PAL DVD of Riget arrived.  All hooked up fine and have been viewed. So much for expertise.
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Posted: Feb 28, 2009 - 10:20pm

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No.
 
Then you're still not going to be able to view the DVD on your TV set {"I'm disinclined (and I suspect dionysius is as well) to sit in front of a 14" monitor in office chairs to watch a movie, when we've got a 34" HDTV downstairs with a reclining loveseat."}.  The DVD player is still going to put out a 576i/50 video signal that is incompatible with a 60Hz TV.  Many newer PAL TV sets are capable of displaying 60Hz PAL60 and sometimes even 480i/60 NTSC video.  But I haven't seen a TV for sale in the US (outside of specialty shops) that can play PAL or SECAM video.

If you want to view that PAL DVD on your 34" HD TV, you'll probably need a scan converter, which is not an inexpensive piece of equipment.  I've heard anecdotal stories of some HD TV sets that can display a PAL signal, but have never seen one myself.  Maybe you'll get lucky, but don't be surprised if it doesn't work.

I don't mean to be a wet blanket.  I've been dealing with standards conversion ever since I went to work for a PBS station that got the occasional PAL feed from the BBC.  IME standards conversion is trickier than it seems, unless you're using a computer.


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Posted: Feb 28, 2009 - 8:42am

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You do own a PAL TV, right?
 

No.
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Posted: Feb 27, 2009 - 9:13pm

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Sizes or speed? My source indicated a *slight* difference in frames per second. Just enough to make them useless in a non-compatible player. But that's irrelevant now (at least to me) - the region-free machine has been ordered, as well as Riget II, from Denmark via New Jersey!
 
You do own a PAL TV, right?

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Posted: Feb 27, 2009 - 6:26pm

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But you just this morning asked for help! You gave up this afternoon! Yer easy! Prolly cheap and easy! {#Lol}
 
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Posted: Feb 27, 2009 - 6:16pm

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If I get them to do what I want, how can I freak out at them for screwing up? Jeez! Come on!

 
But you just this morning asked for help! You gave up this afternoon! Yer easy! Prolly cheap and easy! {#Lol}
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Posted: Feb 27, 2009 - 6:04pm

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Wow. You give up easy.{#Lol}
 
If I get them to do what I want, how can I freak out at them for screwing up? Jeez! Come on!
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Posted: Feb 27, 2009 - 6:02pm

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Well, I dropped the disk of at the local video converting center and even tho the guy was a bit of a dick, I'll just let them deal with it and the client can pay for it. They're just really slow. The won't have it until wednesday and when I'm told them a large company was waiting o get this online to launch their web site, they wouldn't even expedite it by a day. I get to explain to them how much business they just lost. 

 
Wow. You give up easy.{#Lol}
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Posted: Feb 27, 2009 - 5:59pm

Well, I dropped the disk of at the local video converting center and even tho the guy was a bit of a dick, I'll just let them deal with it and the client can pay for it. They're just really slow. The won't have it until wednesday and when I'm told them a large company was waiting o get this online to launch their web site, they wouldn't even expedite it by a day. I get to explain to them how much business they just lost. 
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Posted: Feb 27, 2009 - 5:54pm

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Only problem is this doesn't run on OSX.
 
I know, I had PM'd him asking if he had access to a PC. Isn't there a program on your Mac that runs Windows apps?

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Posted: Feb 27, 2009 - 4:45pm

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Only problem is this doesn't run on OSX.

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Posted: Feb 27, 2009 - 2:27pm

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Posted: Feb 27, 2009 - 10:59am

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Do you get to pick which hero you would be? Can it be a super hero, like Henry Pym? That would be cool.
 
No, it's up to the client. He likes Insulin Man but he could go with a different super hero. Who knows in this shaky economy? Just Say No. 
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Posted: Feb 27, 2009 - 10:48am

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Hmm well seeing as how you use Mac I can't be as helpful because handbrake and ffmpegx are the main mac tools for trascoding. I suggest perusing the download section of doom9.net for A) a vob splicer and B) an MPEG transcoder that will run on OSX 10.4. If it's really important, you can just spring for some commercial software—I searched google for "mac vob to mp4" and it came up with an option that has a free trial and a full copy for $35.

BTW you are right, all the video is contained in VTS_*.vob files. I believe the menu is contained in VIDEO_TS.VOB, and the .IFOs contain chapter, stream and subtitle information (I could be wrong, it's been a while since I authored a disc from scratch.)
 
Thanks for you help!
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Posted: Feb 27, 2009 - 10:48am

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I'm not sure where else to post this: I want to convert a DVD to mp4 for streaming and Youtube.
But it's not that simpe. The DVD is a file that was converted from tape. So it plays on PCs but
not Macs. It plays on his older DVD player but not my home unit. When I try to do anything
with it all the software treats the disk like a folder. On the disk there are 2 folders, one for
sound and one for video and each contains about 8 files. Do we have any multi-media experts
out there who recognize  what kind of DVD video this is? I would be a hero if I could convert it. 
edit - I found 2 .vob files which I can play. I just need to splice them together and convert to .mp4  
Shit, looks like my software won't recognize vob files.

 

Do you get to pick which hero you would be? Can it be a super hero, like Henry Pym? That would be cool.
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Posted: Feb 27, 2009 - 10:45am

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I tried imovie then I downloaded handbrake and ffmpegx. handbrake didn't open then I realized it's built for mac 10.5 lepeord. I'm still using 10.4 OS ffmpegx appeared to work except the files disappear after conversion - it's not working. I'll see if I can get another version of handbrake to work. I didn't convert the tape to dvd - I got the dvd from my client. Yes, it has those 2 folders. The audio folder is empty. The video folder contains the following files. 

VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB

I can view the VOB files and it looks like the all the stuff I need is on VTS_01_1.VOB and VTS_01_2.VOB so I need convert them then splice them together. 

 
Hmm well seeing as how you use Mac I can't be as helpful because handbrake and ffmpegx are the main mac tools for trascoding. I suggest perusing the download section of doom9.net for A) a vob splicer and B) an MPEG transcoder that will run on OSX 10.4. If it's really important, you can just spring for some commercial software—I searched google for "mac vob to mp4" and it came up with an option that has a free trial and a full copy for $35.

BTW you are right, all the video is contained in VTS_*.vob files. I believe the menu is contained in VIDEO_TS.VOB, and the .IFOs contain chapter, stream and subtitle information (I could be wrong, it's been a while since I authored a disc from scratch.)

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Posted: Feb 27, 2009 - 10:38am

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Questions:
  1. What software are you using?
  2. What software did you use to convert the tape to DVD?
  3. What are the names of the folders on the DVD (is it VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS?)
If you have .vob files, these are most likely MPEG-2 Video OBjects which are part of a standard DVD-Video. If it is a proper DVD then you can use a great free tool called Handbrake to convert it to .mp4. Check my post below for links to sites that help with this sort of thing.

Cheers, and good luck!
 
I tried imovie then I downloaded handbrake and ffmpegx. handbrake didn't open then I realized it's built for mac 10.5 lepeord. I'm still using 10.4 OS ffmpegx appeared to work except the files disappear after conversion - it's not working. I'll see if I can get another version of handbrake to work. I didn't convert the tape to dvd - I got the dvd from my client. Yes, it has those 2 folders. The audio folder is empty. The video folder contains the following files. 

VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VIDEO_TS.VOB
VTS_01_0.BUP
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_1.VOB
VTS_01_2.VOB

I can view the VOB files and it looks like the all the stuff I need is on VTS_01_1.VOB and VTS_01_2.VOB so I need convert them then splice them together. 
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Posted: Feb 27, 2009 - 10:31am

 TernaryBit wrote:

Questions:
  1. What software are you using?
  2. What software did you use to convert the tape to DVD?
  3. What are the names of the folders on the DVD (is it VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS?)
If you have .vob files, these are most likely MPEG-2 Video OBjects which are part of a standard DVD-Video. If it is a proper DVD then you can use a great free tool called Handbrake to convert it to .mp4. Check my post below for links to sites that help with this sort of thing.

Cheers, and good luck!
 
Here is an idea.  It's not a simple matter but, it sounds like the work will be worth it.  They're using DGPulldown.

If you can RIP the DVD to any standard video format (it's the drive interfacing to the computer that the real issue), you can use Xillsoft or ABC-Soft products to convert it to MP4.

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