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Posted: Apr 20, 2024 - 8:54am

Deconstructing the spectacle and stagecraft of a Donald Trump rally
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Posted: Apr 19, 2024 - 11:10am

Man lit himself on fire outside the courthouse where Trump's trial is underway

A man lit himself on fire outside of the courthouse where the Trump trial is underway, two law enforcement sources confirmed to CNN.

The man walked into the park across the street from the courthouse, throwing flyers into the air, a senior law enforcement official told CNN. He then pulled something out of a backpack — it was not immediately clear what the item was — and lit himself on fire, the official said.

At least one person used a fire extinguisher to try to put out the blaze, and an EMT rushed up to the man and tried to render aid, according to CNN's Laura Coates, who narrated the scene unfolding in front of her outside the courthouse.


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Posted: Apr 19, 2024 - 6:05am

This is an interesting look at the view of Trump from those in NY vs. those in the rest of the country. 

Welcome Back to New York, Mr. Trump. We Haven’t Forgotten You.

I would consider myself a "local" for the article.  I'm from Philly... but I worked in NYC for well over a decade, and always saw him as aspirational, always reaching, always overselling.  Atlantic City was first, but golf was where I heard some of the best stories 30 years ago.

Everyone knows about Trump's love of golf, and he was desperate to get into Pine Valley (ranked consistently as the best course in the world, located in the South Jersey pines).  I knew/know several members.  He tracked down every member he could, offered all kinds of "incentives", and begged to be a member.  No dice.  Out of spite, he purchased Pine Hill Golf Club (1.5 miles away), took it private, and said he was going to make it "better than Pine Valley".  

He's an outsider.  A rube.  That chip on his shoulder is what plays so well with the MAGA crowd.


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Posted: Apr 18, 2024 - 2:46pm

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@Kurtster: The punishment or sanction for contempt of court is determined by the presiding judge. Merchan does not HAVE to jail Trump for contempt of court, much as Trump apparently wants that to happen—I guess because he wants to portray himself yet again as a victim. 

Ah yes. Trump the mighty billionaire who can't cover the bonds without shady help. The owner of his own social media platform that's sinking like the Hindenburg on fire. He's a victim all right—of his own stupidity, rashness and senility. 


The real problem is not the whining from the MAGA crowd, it's their willingness to believe that somehow Donnie is a martyr.  If he's re-elected, instead of seeing is use of the DOJ as some sort of revenge machine, they've been conditioned to believe that Biden is the one who opened Pandora's box.  This is the insidious risk with Trump, he projects every single thing he does onto everyone else (not doing it)...so when he gets what he wants, it's not seen as new, different, special...and most importantly illegal.

Kurt doesn't see any of Trump's actions as criminal, so he won't care in the future if anyone else has committed crimes when accused and prosecuted by Trump later.  It's the standard "whataboutism"... because Trump says total crap so much, everyone is de-sensitized.  I don't think it's some "master plan", so much as lying is how Trump has lived for 60-70 years.  He literally can't stop himself... and the more he lies, the more 1/3rd of the country cheers.

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Posted: Apr 18, 2024 - 1:54pm

@Kurtster: The punishment or sanction for contempt of court is determined by the presiding judge. Merchan does not HAVE to jail Trump for contempt of court, much as Trump apparently wants that to happen—I guess because he wants to portray himself yet again as a victim. 

Ah yes. Trump the mighty billionaire who can't cover the bonds without shady help. The owner of his own social media platform that's sinking like the Hindenburg on fire. He's a victim all right—of his own stupidity, rashness and senility. 
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Posted: Apr 18, 2024 - 1:45pm

 VV wrote:

Sound familiar?
 
But if I need to knock you over the head with a hammer... Trump would have been brought up on charges whether or not he decided to run. The election interference argument just plays well with his MAGA minions, willing and eager to look for any reason to excuse him for his actions and set him up as their personal martyr. But you know this already.


Yes indeed. We've been over this before. Investigations into Trump's actions were started before he declared his candidacy on November 15, 2022. For instance, the House Committee on January 6 had its first of 10 hearings in June 2022. 

For those forgetting the timeline of relevant events, this summary is very useful: 

Updated: The Trump indictments: a seven-year timeline of key developments

BY: - AUGUST 17, 2023 1:00 AM

 https://georgiarecorder.com/20...

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Posted: Apr 18, 2024 - 12:36pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

Just to clarify, I don't for a moment think that Trump is a Russian "asset" out of conviction or ideological persuasion. He also doesn't have the intellectual nous to be that complicit.

No, in a way, it is almost worse. He is an opportunist with a massively over-inflated ego that made him easy pickings for a Russian op. The idea of riding a wave of popular discontent to become the new Messiah / Führer / Mini-Dictator /Strongman or whatever else you want to call it was just soooo appealing to him. 
That, coupled with a complete absence of any kind of moral compass or sense of loyalty were a fatal combination that brought us here to where we are today. 




Absolutely. 
And, as an increasingly dysfunctional society under pressure from within and without, a fertile soil it be for the seeds of our civil decrepitude. How else could it be? Cynicism alone? 
But for a different possibility one might withdraw from humanity entirely. A possibility that doesn't rest on a foundation of material existence at all. Even though material existence is the way we have come to purely quantify and qualify our day to day lives, it does not ensure our survival nor the survival of our species. Knowledge does. Knowledge of interpretation. Of self. Of the power of the union of mind and heart. A knowledge of the yearning we commonly refer to as "God". Not belief or conviction or solemn duty. Those qualities are void of permanence. Not socio economics or investment stratagies or systems of wealth accumulation. Those continue to produce war. Knowledge of the power of one human individual to say no. That's enough. This must not be. It will not be. I will treat the next human being I see knowing that it will not be...
"Should I die before I wake"
I don't care about someone giving a snowballs chance in hell. I will reject it all before I'll trade my soul. Of course, either way it will be hell to pay,  but if that snowball gets big enough, the hell to pay won't be able to melt it at all before being drowned out in its own death and deception...
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Posted: Apr 18, 2024 - 11:47am

 VV wrote:

"Asset" may even be assigning more credit to him than is due. An "Asset" may well know the role he is playing in assisting Russia with the attempted destabilization of our democracy and erosion of our standing in NATO and with our allies. 
 
I'm not sure Trump recognizes or understands this. 
 
I would call him a Russian "Stooge" who was embedded at the highest level of our government... and may yet again be. 



Just to clarify, I don't for a moment think that Trump is a Russian "asset" out of conviction or ideological persuasion. He also doesn't have the intellectual nous to be that complicit.

No, in a way, it is almost worse. He is an opportunist with a massively over-inflated ego that made him easy pickings for a Russian op. The idea of riding a wave of popular discontent to become the new Messiah / Führer / Mini-Dictator /Strongman or whatever else you want to call it was just soooo appealing to him. 
That, coupled with a complete absence of any kind of moral compass or sense of loyalty were a fatal combination that brought us here to where we are today. 


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Posted: Apr 18, 2024 - 7:31am

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Don't forget that William Barr ...

Bill doesn't want to be forgotten...so much so that he's now on Fox telling them that Biden is the threat to democracy.  I guess the book tours and speaking engagements aren't what he thought they'd be when he spoke out... so go back to the cult and get paid.


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Posted: Apr 18, 2024 - 7:12am

 VV wrote:

Sound familiar?
 
But if I need to knock you over the head with a hammer... Trump would have been brought up on charges whether or not he decided to run. The election interference argument just plays well with his MAGA minions, willing and eager to look for any reason to excuse him for his actions and set him up as their personal martyr. But you know this already.



Don't forget that William Barr spent years trying to bury this whole thing. Even going as far as saying the prosecutor has resigned, while the prosecutor was publicly out saying "I HAVE NOT RESIGNED". That prosecutor was hanging on to place his successor so the case could continue in New York. That whole section of the story is just as wild.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/manhattan-u-s-attorney-geoffrey-berman-who-investigated-trump-associates-n1231628

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/ousted-u-s-prosecutor-tells-panel-barr-urged-him-to-resign

This from the Trump justice department. While he screams that the Biden DOJ is corrupt. He only thinks it's corrupt because he knows it was when he ran it, and it's the only way he can see it operating.  Why would anyone not use the DOJ to punish their enemies?
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Posted: Apr 18, 2024 - 7:11am

 Bill_J wrote:


The purpose of any prosecution is to hold anyone accountable for illegal actions. That's all that's going on here.



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Posted: Apr 18, 2024 - 7:11am

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Well, all this occurred in a political world, so saying that “this is all political” doesn’t really mean anything.


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Posted: Apr 18, 2024 - 7:09am

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So this is what you actually believe.  Nothing political about any of these prosecutions.

Ok.  Then let's lock him up for criminal contempt for violating the gag order. 

Right is right.  It is an open and shut case.  Trump can appeal it when he is released.


Well, all this occurred in a political world, so saying that “this is all political” doesn’t really mean anything.
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Posted: Apr 18, 2024 - 7:02am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:




And I'll keep repeating it till it comes out your ears.. Trump, whether consciously or not, is playing by Russia's playbook for destabilising foreign governments AND seems to be doing everything in his power to help Putin in Ukraine AND erode credibility in NATO and stoke unrest at home in the United States AND erode trust in the law. AND.. jeez.. do I need to go on?

He's a Russian asset and is out to weaken the United States.  Anyone still supporting him now after all that has gone down, is complicit in my view.



"Asset" may even be assigning more credit to him than is due. An "Asset" may well know the role he is playing in assisting Russia with the attempted destabilization of our democracy and erosion of our standing in NATO and with our allies. 
 
I'm not sure Trump recognizes or understands this. 
 
I would call him a Russian "Stooge" who was embedded at the highest level of our government... and may yet again be. 


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Posted: Apr 18, 2024 - 5:18am

 kurtster wrote:

You answered my question with multiple questions instead of answering it.




And I'll keep repeating it till it comes out your ears.. Trump, whether consciously or not, is playing by Russia's playbook for destabilising foreign governments AND seems to be doing everything in his power to help Putin in Ukraine AND erode credibility in NATO and stoke unrest at home in the United States AND erode trust in the law. AND.. jeez.. do I need to go on?

He's a Russian asset and is out to weaken the United States.  Anyone still supporting him now after all that has gone down, is complicit in my view.


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Posted: Apr 18, 2024 - 5:09am

 kurtster wrote:

You answered my question with multiple questions instead of answering it.

Sound familiar?
 
But if I need to knock you over the head with a hammer... Trump would have been brought up on charges whether or not he decided to run. The election interference argument just plays well with his MAGA minions, willing and eager to look for any reason to excuse him for his actions and set him up as their personal martyr. But you know this already.

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Posted: Apr 18, 2024 - 4:55am

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 So using your twisted logic you must believe that the only reason he’s being charged with anything at all is because he’s running again.
 
 If he wasn’t running… “Biden’s” DOJ wouldn’t be pursuing any charges. Would that be the flip-side of your coin?
 
Do you ever even stop to read your posts to see how foolish they sound?
 
You answered my question with multiple questions instead of answering it.
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Posted: Apr 18, 2024 - 4:49am

 kurtster wrote:

So what exactly is the purpose of all of these prosecutions ?

To keep Trump off of ballots ?

To taint him to the point of unelectability ?

Or

To lock him up for his crimes, whatever they might be ?

I would like to think that it is the last one.  The first two are clearly political election interference and anti democratic and are not working.

The last one is the only legitimate purpose as well.

So you have a bona fide chance to lock him up for criminal contempt.  Take it.  Do it.  It is the goal.  Yes or no ?


So using your twisted logic you must believe that the only reason he’s being charged with anything at all is because he’s running again.
 
 If he wasn’t running… “Biden’s” DOJ wouldn’t be pursuing any charges. Would that be the flip-side of your coin?
 
Do you ever even stop to read your posts to see how foolish they sound?
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Posted: Apr 17, 2024 - 6:58pm

 Bill_J wrote:
 The purpose of any prosecution is to hold anyone accountable for illegal actions. That's all that's going on here.
 
So this is what you actually believe.  Nothing political about any of these prosecutions.

Ok.  Then let's lock him up for criminal contempt for violating the gag order. 

Right is right.  It is an open and shut case.  Trump can appeal it when he is released.
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Posted: Apr 17, 2024 - 6:54pm

 kurtster wrote:

So what exactly is the purpose of all of these prosecutions ?

To keep Trump off of ballots ?

To taint him to the point of unelectability ?

Or

To lock him up for his crimes, whatever they might be ?

I would like to think that it is the last one.  The first two are clearly political election interference and anti democratic and are not working.

The last one is the only legitimate purpose as well.

So you have a bona fide chance to lock him up for criminal contempt.  Take it.  Do it.  It is the goal.  Yes or no ?


How about trump just not engaging in threatening justice workers and people in the jury? Yes, there is a two tier justice system and he is on the top tier, getting away with far more than most defendants would. If you want to be a politician, you can claim that anything opposing your actions is political, even if those actions include contempt of court. Just stop misbehavin

(And stop supporting people who rort the legal system)

I suspect his strategy is to set up a basis for drawing out the appeal process. "Holding me in contempt was unfair and should invalidate the trial" That is the scenario that the judge has to navigate.


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