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And cut you like you want me to
Cut that little child
Inside of me and such a part of you
Ooh, the years burn
I used to be a little boy
So old in my shoes
And what I choose is my choice
What's a boy supposed to do?
The killer in me is the killer in you
My love
I send this smile over to you
Disarm you with a smile
And leave you like they left me here
To wither in denial
The bitterness of one who's left alone
Ooh, the years burn
Ooh, the years burn, burn, burn
I used to be a little boy
So old in my shoes
And what I choose is my voice
What's a boy supposed to do?
The killer in me is the killer in you
My love
I send this smile over to you
The killer in me is the killer in you
Send this smile over to you
The killer in me is the killer in you
Send this smile over to you
The killer in me is the killer in you
Send this smile over to you
22 when this album came out. So many good bands kickin off around that time. Feel so lucky to have had my twenties in the nineties. Bookended by Nevermind in 91 and Ok Computer in 97
i was 25. i feel the same.
For music, it typically means additional layers of singers and instrumentation that detract from the song.
Imagine the Rolling Stones' "Brown Sugar" with a full choir and 25-piece symphonic background. Or drums and searing guitar solos on a James Taylor ballad.
As the decade progressed they were the soundtrack to so many of the big events of my life then. They are so inextricably wrapped up in my experience of the 90s and my teenage years, and will always have a place in my heart. I have evolved, like my taste in music, but being able to listen to their music from that time is like being able to glimpse the nascent version of me from back then again. And you know, the music holds up. They were real.
Still love hearing this after nearly 30 years. I was barely a teenager when this came out.
OMG! Didn't think about how old this song, and consequently I am.
Sure, but Bob Dylan, Neil Young, and Geddy Lee's vocals are hilariously bad too, and it didn't stop them/their bands from greatness. Billy Corgan, despite being a horrendous bandmate, has the perfect voice for the pre-emo/goth vibe of Smashing Pumpkins.
Your post really resonated with me.
My husband was homeless as a child. I often listen to his stories and am so proud of him for what he has accomplished despite the cards he was dealt. Now we are finally homeowners, living in an Alaskan paradise, complete with badass glassblowing studio.
Best wishes to you.
TrevorWGoodchild wrote:
I used to be a little boy
...
And what I choose is my choice
I like the analogy "kicking in open doors" but think you may not be seeing the bigger picture of the lyrics in your examples. "I used to be a little boy" doesn't work on it's own very well, but when followed by the rest of his thought "...so old in my shoes" it's just setting the stage in the storytelling. Same for your second example "What I choose is my choice" doesn't work well alone, but later in the song it evolves to "what I choose is my voice" which is rather clever. There are countless songs with mediocre lyrics, but for me this is a far cry from those.
and my youth memories of war back home just starts flooding over…
Wah . . . . put it to music.
Wait, somebody has.
It really is awful isn't it.
Children of divorced parents are prone to divorcing themselves, so - no union!
Not thinkin one. Parents divorced my age of one.
Married 40 years now. Never separated. Got another ten years in us.
Fixed.
It's not politically correct to state the obvious about this band: the vocals are atrocious.
But we must keep speaking truth to power!
SurfDoc wrote:
The whiney in me
Is the whiney in you
After about thirty years of the Smashing Pumpkins making music, at least one or two people may have found Corgan's voice to be whiny.
Raises hand...quickly.
I say: Less cow bell, more tubular bells!
Regardless of how much I try like this song, there is always that tightening knot feeling in my belly,
and my youth memories of war back home just starts flooding over…
Dang.
I was going to post that the song always reminds me of the time Billy forgot the words.
Regardless of how much I try like this song, there is always that tightening knot feeling in my belly,
and my youth memories of war back home just starts flooding over…
Yeah, something has gone seriously wrong in the RP song database here. Wrong album, wrong cover that isn't even from the wrong album, and wrong release date that again matches neither the wrong album nor the cover! This song was from ‘Siamese Dream’ from 1993.
Agreed
Exactly!
I used to be a little boy
...
And what I choose is my choice
I wish RP had a "like" button.
Or a PTA-button (Play This Again)
I wish RP had a "like" button.
but i just thought
this beats the hell out of Stairway To Heaven
Everybody in my galactic presidential campaigns loves this song... we love sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll... time flies when we're having fun...
Agreed
Children of divorced parents are prone to divorcing themselves, so - no union!
You're not serious, are you?
I think the addition of the chimes is the masterstroke for this recording—hats off to whoever decided to give that a try.
In general, any pop or rock song with an orchestral background is over-produced.
You're not serious, are you?
Let me just say that, in heartfelt measure, but general terms — I disagree.
In general, any pop or rock song with an orchestral background is over-produced. Of course, that is just my personal opinion, which should go without saying but there are some who get all huffy when a song they like is criticized.
Ditto
We be dancing... love it...
Lightness In Age
by Gibbons Ruark
It means not having to muscle your bag
Onto the baggage rack for the flight to Dublin.
A girl your daughter's age will do that for you.
It means the boy distributes the groceries justly
In your carry-alls so you'll make the car without spillage.
Those lightnesses are not to be taken lightly,
But more than those it's the many-faceted lightness
Of the goldfinch feathering down at morning,
The chickadee's darting blur for the one seed
He spirits away and devours discreetly,
And it's the tenderness of a long-known kiss
Touching your mouth or eyelid or anywhere
With this new lightness, its flickering back-lit by the glow
Of that consuming first one fifty years ago.
Senor L there's hope yet.
Yeah, I really hate crisp, clean production. Hearing individual instruments is awful. And elegantly-recorded string sections. Poo.
At least it's followed by early recorded-in-the-garage-with-a-4-track Cure!
Hehe I have for sale to you a very early Walkman with some 20 yr old chrome audio cassettes with guaranteed drop outs, with the tracks recorded from a tinny transistor radio for the full, 70s and early 80s muffled sound experience and 'proper' production sound!
Oh wait - Neil Young 'Words' is playing and it sounds JUST like that! :-)
I love Corgan's tortured-cat guitar playing. I even don't mind his tortured-cat singing. But I can't stand over-produced crap such as this.
Yeah, I really hate crisp, clean production. Hearing individual instruments is awful. And elegantly-recorded string sections. Poo.
At least it's followed by early recorded-in-the-garage-with-a-4-track Cure!
I love Corgan's tortured-cat guitar playing. I even don't mind his tortured-cat singing. But I can't stand over-produced crap such as this.
I love Corgan's tortured-cat guitar playing. I even don't mind his tortured-cat singing. But I can't stand over-produced crap such as this.
That is pretty much how I see it too. Corgan's a great songwriter and a really cool dude, but should not sing imo. However, it did not seem to hurt their success, a lot of people don't seem to mind his voice, I am not amongst them.
Why shouldn't great songwriters, with the vision and the cojones to put together a band and put themselves up front, not freaking sing.
This aint opera man, Freddy Mercuiry and Joan Baez aside, this is freaking rock and roll.
Lou, Dylan, Neil, Waits - what a horrible hole in the music there would be if they decided to just write some songs and hope for the best.
What's "emoness"?
how sad for you
I think a lot of it is generational. Most people really favor about one or two decades, no matter how open-minded. However, it does seem that some people here cast a dim view of almost anything that deviates too far from 1968.
That said, you have to be somewhat open-minded to listen to this station since they play a pretty wide variety of music from all modern eras. Perhaps there is a noticeable lack of up-tempo songs, but that seems to be by design. After all, it is Radio PARADISE. It's pretty chill.
Yes please.
That is pretty much how I see it too. Corgan's a great songwriter and a really cool dude, but should not sing imo. However, it did not seem to hurt their success, a lot of people don't seem to mind his voice, I am not amongst them.
The only other song I can think of that I enjoy as much as this one: 1979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1acEVmnVhI
We be dancing... love it...
Lightness In Age
by Gibbons Ruark
It means not having to muscle your bag
Onto the baggage rack for the flight to Dublin.
A girl your daughter's age will do that for you.
It means the boy distributes the groceries justly
In your carry-alls so you'll make the car without spillage.
Those lightnesses are not to be taken lightly,
But more than those it's the many-faceted lightness
Of the goldfinch feathering down at morning,
The chickadee's darting blur for the one seed
He spirits away and devours discreetly,
And it's the tenderness of a long-known kiss
Touching your mouth or eyelid or anywhere
With this new lightness, its flickering back-lit by the glow
Of that consuming first one fifty years ago.
Time flies when we're having fun... love this song...
Is that a positive or negative criticism of his vocal style?
" I used to be a little boy............................"
+2
The whining on top of the dirge, ugghhh. Mute or find another source to play. Can't stand his vocal style.
You are so right!
Frida Snell - Bullet With Butterfly Wings ==> Smashing Pumpkins - Disarm
Masterpiece!
Hmmmm....where's Romeo? His song's on. Maybe he's in the tub....
Yea his voice is shockingly horrible and not in a Bob Dylan kinda way, in a really, really bad all the way around way. Simply horrible and is the main reason this bands legacy will fade into the wind as the few holders on that still like them die off leaving only fresh ears to hear that the emperor indeed has no clothes.
Nevuh happen
I'm with dreadpixie; Vegas is not that great
Yea his voice is shockingly horrible and not in a Bob Dylan kinda way, in a really, really bad all the way around way. Simply horrible and is the main reason this bands legacy will fade into the wind as the few holders on that still like them die off leaving only fresh ears to hear that the emperor indeed has no clothes.
NO ONES voice is as shockingly horrible as Dylan...
22 when this album came out. So many good bands kickin off around that time. Feel so lucky to have had my twenties in the nineties. Bookended by Nevermind in 91 and Ok Computer in 97
24 for me, and everything else exactly the same thoughts!
And this is something like a thread around our generation worldwide. I live in Germany...