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Toad The Wet Sprocket — Fall Down
Album: Dulcinea
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Released: 1994
Length: 3:21
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She said "I'm fine, I'm okay"
Cover up your trembling hands
There's indecision when you know you ain't got nothing left
When the good times never stay
And the cheap thrills always seem to fade away
When will we fall
When will we fall down

Jump back, gotta get out of here
Been too, too long this time
Jump back, gotta get out of here
When will, when will we fall down

She hates her life, she hates her skin
She even hates her friends
Tries to hold on to all the reputations she can't mend
And there's some chance we could fail
But the last time, someone's always there for bail
When will we fall
When will we fall down

Jump back, gotta get out of here
Been too, too long this time
Jump back, gotta get out of here
When will, when will we fall down
When will we, when will we fall down
When will we fall

She said "I'm fine, I'm okay"
Cover up your trembling hands
There's indecision when you know you ain't got nothing left
For the last time conscience calls
For a good friend, I was never there at all
When will we fall
When will we fall down

Jump back, gotta get out of here
Been too, too long this time
Jump back, gotta get out of here
When will, when will we fall down
When will we, when will we fall down
When will we fall
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Saw them live last year, they sounded great and had even more hits than I remembered! Great show!! 
Posted 2 days ago by nysbeerguy    [ Reply ]
 BlackBetty wrote:

'Where' do they come up with these nitwit group names? My inquiring mind wants to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Monty Python sketch.  
Posted 1 year ago by roadie    [ Reply ]
Big Head Todd and Toad the Wet Sprocket came along to remind us that the 80's New Wave party was over. If you already had a real job, they were kinda irrelevant. 
Posted 2 years ago by Grayson    [ Reply ]
First few bars, I thought this was "Brewing Up a Storm" by Galway band "The Stunning" - both excellent songs
Posted 2 years ago by garrettb    [ Reply ]
God, this is just pure '90s, in the best way. I know TTWS wasn't ground-breaking, but what they did, they did like the best version of it. 
Posted 2 years ago by acolt    [ Reply ]
'Where' do they come up with these nitwit group names? My inquiring mind wants to know!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted 2 years ago by BlackBetty    [ Reply ]
 harvey7 wrote:

Shades of Tom Petty here, and that is not a bad influence.



I feel more R.E.M. than TP.
Posted 3 years ago by nicknt    [ Reply ]
The better part of 20 years on and still I find myself wanting to spin the volume knob up to TEN!  With headphones, too.  
Posted 5 years ago by Highlowsel    [ Reply ]
I like TTWS. The fact that they embraced  an obscure MP sketch for their peculiar band name only endears them to me more.
Rock on, Toads!!
Posted 5 years ago by Roguewarer    [ Reply ]
 MrStatenIsle wrote:


Let me help; Todd is not a toad, and a toad is not a monster.
 

Although, I would pay money to go see Big Head Toad and the Wet Sprocket Monsters.  
Posted 5 years ago by SpencerAR    [ Reply ]
like!
Posted 5 years ago by davidargany801    [ Reply ]
 ziggytrix wrote:
I'll never be able to keep these guys distinguished from Big Head Todd and the Monsters...
 

Let me help; Todd is not a toad, and a toad is not a monster.
Posted 5 years ago by MrStatenIsle    [ Reply ]
Hard to tell from other 90s bands unless you spent some time in Santa Barbara. Then you know who they are and it brings back good memories
Posted 6 years ago by andrew2112    [ Reply ]
play more Toad!
Posted 6 years ago by Michaeljcovel    [ Reply ]
Todd the Big Head Wet Sprocket Some Call Toad-ish. Such a good song. Band. Both. Honestly, Big Head Todd has such an amazingly distinctive voice/sound that it's just Toad The Wet Sprocket that's hard to ID when the 90's bands hard drive isn't whirring at capacity. 
Posted 6 years ago by Grayson    [ Reply ]
I'll never be able to keep these guys distinguished from Big Head Todd and the Monsters...
Posted 6 years ago by ziggytrix    [ Reply ]
Shades of Tom Petty here, and that is not a bad influence.
Posted 7 years ago by harvey7    [ Reply ]
 On_The_Beach wrote:

Please don't tell Stingray they're all Scientologists.  ; )

 
{#Lol}
Posted 7 years ago by Proclivities    [ Reply ]
 Stingray wrote:
"10"

One of the best pop-songs EVER....EVER written!

WOOOOW
 
Please don't tell Stingray they're all Scientologists.  ; )
Posted 7 years ago by On_The_Beach    [ Reply ]
My favorite TTWS album.
Posted 7 years ago by bindi    [ Reply ]

on 3/5/17, coloradojohn wrote:

Great memories of this landmark album! I took a 10-day vacation in Guam, summer of '94, and this was on the airwaves, on the MTV videos in bars, played for long stretches in the car rental tape deck; man, it was everywhere! Loved it then, still dig it now. More TOAD!

 
I was ending my junior year of HS (at Santa Barbara HS) when this record came out, and I remember thinking then "what a cool band name, it's different" and I even liked the pop sound of the band, but not overly so.  Fast forward to my 40th bday (when you commented on March 5th 2017) and I'm in 100% agreement with you about really digging the band's sound. As just another example of how you and I would be good BUDs (lol) if we knew each other.  Stay cool bro - and keep posting your fun stories associated with the awesome (and even the not so awesome ones too) tracks we hear here on RP.

Long Live RP!


Posted 7 years ago by lizardking    [ Reply ]
Great memories of this landmark album! I took a 10-day vacation in Guam, summer of '94, and this was on the airwaves, on the MTV videos in bars, played for long stretches in the car rental tape deck; man, it was everywhere! Loved it then, still dig it now. More TOAD!
Posted 8 years ago by coloradojohn    [ Reply ]
Waiting to hear Constellation!
Posted 9 years ago by TerryS    [ Reply ]
Play the Toad!
Posted 9 years ago by meatmike    [ Reply ]
I had tickets to see these boys on Thursday night in Portland and got snowed in.  Bummer.  Freakin' winter!
Posted 11 years ago by 84MacGuy    [ Reply ]
 Stingray wrote:
12
 
Exactly!
Posted 13 years ago by sgw007    [ Reply ]
 efaulkjr wrote:

Yes, warderblu!  My all-time favorite Toad album!
 

Yes - certainly their best, among many good others!

Seems they re-unite!
Posted 13 years ago by Stingray    [ Reply ]
12
Posted 13 years ago by Stingray    [ Reply ]
They still tour together occasionally. Saw them in Charlotte a few months ago. Glen said they were seriously considering reuniting and were working on new material together. Awesome!!!!!!!!!
Posted 13 years ago by volnomad    [ Reply ]
I remain a huge fan of TTWS from the 90s.  I cannot believe I never saw them live as I had several friends who were "Toadies."  Please play some tunes from a spin-off project by the drummer, bassist, and guitarist —- Lapdog. 


Posted 14 years ago by Tim_in_N_FL    [ Reply ]
 warderblu wrote:
Dulcinea
 
Yes, warderblu!  My all-time favorite Toad album!
Posted 14 years ago by efaulkjr    [ Reply ]
"10"

One of the best pop-songs EVER....EVER written!

WOOOOW
Posted 14 years ago by Stingray    [ Reply ]
I remember this one.  Back when rock and roll radio made a 90's revival with some very good songs.
Posted 14 years ago by lemmoth    [ Reply ]
{#Dancingbanana}
Posted 14 years ago by cohifi    [ Reply ]
Dulcinea
Posted 14 years ago by warderblu    [ Reply ]
nice wee blast from some time back
Posted 14 years ago by rage    [ Reply ]
 MtnCoyote wrote:
This was the song that introduced me to Toad.  In the 1994 movie "Drop Zone", they played this as the skydivers were free-falling in a circular formation — the lyrics, combined with the images and melody, really highlighted the sheer athletic beauty of falling through the blue skies, free of all restraints... 
                                                                  {#Group-hug}     {#Umbrella}   

2 years after the movie, I actually did a tandem skydive from 9,000 feet up — what a ride!!!!      {#Propeller}

 

Thanks for sharing!
Posted 14 years ago by Stingray    [ Reply ]
 justin_thyme wrote:

Dulcinea was released in 1994.  It's a brilliant album from a talented band, chocked full of terrific songs.

 

Yes-yes-yes!

One of those few-few albums with not a single - not a SINGLE FILLER!
Posted 14 years ago by Stingray    [ Reply ]
FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINALLY...!

("10")
Posted 14 years ago by Stingray    [ Reply ]
 buzmaggie wrote:
good stuff.  Its about time we have heard from them. noone knows when this was released?
 
Dulcinea was released in 1994.  It's a brilliant album from a talented band, chocked full of terrific songs.

Posted 15 years ago by justin_thyme    [ Reply ]
 buzmaggie wrote:
good stuff.  Its about time we have heard from them. noone knows when this was released?
 
The name of the LP where was originally released was Dulcinea. A great album.

Take care. 
Posted 15 years ago by PisukeSorame    [ Reply ]
Saw Philips's new group, W.P.A., last Wednesday night. Sean Watkins on guitar—and, oh, man, can he pick it!—and Luke Bulla on fiddle. Lush, three-part harmonies. Great band.
Posted 15 years ago by WonderLizard    [ Reply ]
good stuff.  Its about time we have heard from them. noone knows when this was released?
Posted 15 years ago by buzmaggie    [ Reply ]
{#Sad}{#Sick}{#Eek}
Posted 15 years ago by Mandible    [ Reply ]
Celebrity sighting: Glen Phillips at Los Arroyos in Montecito on 6-9-09.
Posted 15 years ago by scraig    [ Reply ]
I hate to disagree with some comments below, but I think you can play more Toad - maybe some less played, but great tunes. 

They were my favorite band - till those guys from Tucson came along. . . .
Posted 16 years ago by bindi    [ Reply ]
 SoundsGoodToMe wrote:


If I had a nickel for every thing you didn't understand, I'd be Bill Gates.

 

If you took a nickel and Physicgenius comments and put em in your hand, do you know what they'd be worth?
A Nickel!
Posted 16 years ago by horstman    [ Reply ]
{#Dancingbanana_2}{#Drummer}{#Guitarist}
        {#Music}
Posted 16 years ago by a_genuine_find    [ Reply ]
 splooge wrote:
Sorry, didn't care for it when FM played the hell out of it and I CERTAINLY don't care for it on RP. Please keep the watered down, ultra pop out of RP. Thanks.
 

It's a good song.

That's all you really need.
Posted 16 years ago by keller1    [ Reply ]
This was the song that introduced me to Toad.  In the 1994 movie "Drop Zone", they played this as the skydivers were free-falling in a circular formation — the lyrics, combined with the images and melody, really highlighted the sheer athletic beauty of falling through the blue skies, free of all restraints... 
                                                                  {#Group-hug}     {#Umbrella}   

2 years after the movie, I actually did a tandem skydive from 9,000 feet up — what a ride!!!!      {#Propeller}

Posted 16 years ago by MtnCoyote    [ Reply ]
Sorry, didn't care for it when FM played the hell out of it and I CERTAINLY don't care for it on RP. Please keep the watered down, ultra pop out of RP. Thanks.
Posted 16 years ago by splooge    [ Reply ]
physicsgenius wrote:
I've never been able to understand how such a mainstream, blandrock band got bandname from a fairly obscure cult comedy sketch.



SoundsGoodToMe wrote:
If I had a nickel for every thing you didn't understand, I'd be Bill Gates.



This has got to be the best response to one of the "late" Physicsgenius's trollings that I've read. Kudos!


Posted 16 years ago by robco1    [ Reply ]
TOOOOOOAAAAAAADDDDDD!!!! :D
Posted 17 years ago by sazbean    [ Reply ]
Proof Bill & Rebecca love us!
Posted 17 years ago by cheezpuff    [ Reply ]
LOVE THE BAND NAME!
Posted 17 years ago by TheFriendlyCat    [ Reply ]
Good playlist tonight. Good playlist most every night.
Posted 17 years ago by rbigelo    [ Reply ]
7:13 pm - Toad The Wet Sprocket - Fall Down 7:09 pm - Randy Newman - Baltimore 7:05 pm - The Decemberists - The Crane Wife 3 26 and accelerating. :-))
Posted 17 years ago by Wizzuvvoz    [ Reply ]
Wow, I just read the lyrics. Such despair put to such a joyous melody.
Posted 17 years ago by MJMJ    [ Reply ]
jangly, pop-rock perfection
Posted 17 years ago by volnomad    [ Reply ]
Used to go watch these guys play in a place called "Charlie's Seaside Cafe" in Ventura, CA. They were good then, still good now.
Posted 18 years ago by ick    [ Reply ]
Walrus_Gumbo wrote:
BY the way, this song has a Blue Oyster Cult "Don't Fear The Reaper" feel to me.
THAT's the song I was thinking of. Thanks for the memory jog.
Posted 18 years ago by Zep    [ Reply ]
Sigh...........another band to throw money at.
Posted 18 years ago by madaxeman    [ Reply ]
physicsgenius wrote: I've never been able to understand how such a mainstream, blandrock band got bandname from a fairly obscure cult comedy sketch. SoundsGoodToMe wrote:
If I had a nickel for every thing you didn't understand, I'd be Bill Gates.
Love your answer!!!! BY the way, this song has a Blue Oyster Cult "Don't Fear The Reaper" feel to me.
Posted 18 years ago by Walrus_Gumbo    [ Reply ]
Catchy radio-pop; what's not to like?!
Posted 18 years ago by On_The_Beach    [ Reply ]
GO TTWS!
Posted 18 years ago by dixiedeb    [ Reply ]
Another great tune from these guys. One of the best kept secrets in music.
Posted 18 years ago by keller1    [ Reply ]
YEAH TOAD!
Posted 18 years ago by canadianbug    [ Reply ]
physicsgenius wrote:
I've never been able to understand how such a mainstream, blandrock band got bandname from a fairly obscure cult comedy sketch.
If I had a nickel for every thing you didn't understand, I'd be Bill Gates.
Posted 18 years ago by SoundsGoodToMe    [ Reply ]
I went to High School with 2 of these guys in Santa Barbara. Back then, Glenn and Dean were artsy guys like me, and I never guess how far they'd go. I've heard rumors of reunion and I hope they do! Thanks RP for keeping these boys out there!!
Posted 18 years ago by chuck_flacks    [ Reply ]
sasa1170 wrote:
and Achtung Baby....
Totally achtung baby.. that's what I thought something like 10 years ago, too funny that it's never come up until now
Posted 18 years ago by davin    [ Reply ]
yay for toad on rp!!!
Posted 18 years ago by canadianbug    [ Reply ]
One of my fav's for sure. Brilliant tune.
Posted 18 years ago by davin    [ Reply ]
Extremely talented band. I think this is one of their best songs. Let these toads roam free.
Posted 18 years ago by Whirlpool    [ Reply ]
physicsgenius wrote:
I've never been able to understand how such a mainstream, blandrock band got bandname from a fairly obscure cult comedy sketch.
Hmmmm... Monty Python produces "fairly obscure" comedy sketches? Interesting. (I wonder how obscure Firesign Theater is then?) I feel Eric Idle would love the "cult" aspect, though. Keep the thought-provoking comments flowing.
Posted 18 years ago by voodoodaddy    [ Reply ]
physicsgenius wrote:
I've never been able to understand how such a mainstream, blandrock band got bandname from a fairly obscure cult comedy sketch.
How's that Grand Unification Theory coming? You should go work on that.
Posted 18 years ago by Odyzzeuz    [ Reply ]
canadianbug wrote:
3 times in 2 days! i can't believe it!! yay!
I can't It!
Posted 18 years ago by mojoman    [ Reply ]
physicsgenius wrote:
I've never been able to understand how such a mainstream, blandrock band got bandname from a fairly obscure cult comedy sketch.
I was wondering myself. I only like a few songs from TtWS, and this is the best one.
Posted 19 years ago by aquadonia    [ Reply ]
I've never been able to understand how such a mainstream, blandrock band got bandname from a fairly obscure cult comedy sketch.
Posted 19 years ago by physicsgenius    [ Reply ]
This song, along with, I believe it's called Woodburning, off of Dulcinea, JUST ROCKS ALL KINDS OF JAM!
Posted 19 years ago by coloradojohn    [ Reply ]
Toad!! Yesssssssssssssssssssss
Posted 19 years ago by glassjawgrlxxx    [ Reply ]
and Achtung Baby....
Posted 19 years ago by sasa1170    [ Reply ]
DrLex wrote:
That album cover looks extremely similar to Pearl Jam's "No Code"...
How about The Jam "Sound Effects" ....
Posted 19 years ago by Zep    [ Reply ]
3 times in 2 days! i can't believe it!! yay!
Posted 19 years ago by canadianbug    [ Reply ]
Love Toad - more if possible please
Posted 19 years ago by bindi    [ Reply ]
Indeed, the Toad rocketh mightily...
Posted 19 years ago by MojoJojo    [ Reply ]
Still love this song!
Posted 19 years ago by DarkPriestess    [ Reply ]
That album cover looks extremely similar to Pearl Jam's "No Code"...
Posted 19 years ago by DrLex    [ Reply ]
mperry wrote:
Back together and touring. Thought you might enjoy this. If Toad the Wet Sprocket needed proof that fans welcome a reunion tour, they got it Sunday night, when a sold-out crowd packed Mississippi Nights despite snow and icy roads.
I was at that show and it was indeed most excellente!
Posted 19 years ago by bluematrix    [ Reply ]
smokinsean wrote:
...me too...good far stare music... S.
i read too fast and thought you'd commented "good state fair music" and I was about to agree... ahhh, fun with dyslexia...
Posted 19 years ago by rah    [ Reply ]
for a split-second I thought that maybe we were going to hear "Valerie Loves Me" by Material Issue -- is that already on the playlist somewhere?
Posted 19 years ago by rah    [ Reply ]
...me too...good far stare music... S.
Posted 19 years ago by Sean-E-Sean    [ Reply ]
Still love these guys.
Posted 20 years ago by radiojunkie    [ Reply ]
genius from a lyrics perspective
Posted 20 years ago by Keiger    [ Reply ]
I love this song, but I think there are better songs off Dulcinea.
Posted 20 years ago by mrmojorisin    [ Reply ]
BC_Night_Heron wrote:
Generic....rock. Eh...
Ya know, I thought this for years. But this time, it seemed different. I haven't heard it for years, and it really rocks and sounds fresh again. Weird.
Posted 20 years ago by Dave_Mack    [ Reply ]
Awesome band!!! \:D/ More Please
Posted 20 years ago by NiceGuy2005    [ Reply ]
mperry wrote:
Back together and touring. Thought you might enjoy this. Toad the Wet Sprocket By BRIAN Q. NEWCOMB Post-Dispatch 02/17/2003 If Toad the Wet Sprocket needed proof that fans welcome a reunion tour, they got it Sunday night, when a sold-out crowd packed Mississippi Nights despite snow and icy roads. Opening with "Whatever I Fear" from its most recent full-length effort, "Coil" (1997), Toad's reunited foursome were received warmly. "Something's Always Wrong" went back to the band's successful 1994 disc, "Dulcinea," from which they turned out "Fly From Heaven," "Woodburning" and "Crowing" in rapid succession. The band solidly played the acoustic, alternative pop/rock creations that often got them labeled as R.E.M.-lite. They've done little to change that perception. Singer and principal songwriter Glen Phillips appeared comfortable in his role at center stage, where he led the band through a fair share of Toad's biggest hits and more obscure tracks. "All I Want" seemed to capture the evening's emotional draw as fans sang along: "All I want is to feel this way, to feel this close, to feel the same." But time waits for no band. Phillips offered "Drive By" alone on acoustic guitar, a song from his indie solo offering, and guitarist Todd Nichols sang "See You Again, by his band Lapdog. Earlier, Phillips introduced a new Toad song, an electric guitar-driven track with the refrain, "We've got a lot to be thankful for." Given the supportive crowd, that's an understandable sentiment, but the song's incomplete feel left something to be desired. "Windmills," "Stupid," "Good Intentions" and "Fall Down" closed out the 75-minute set. "Crazy Life" and the band's biggest hit, "Walk on the Ocean" were strong encores. The return of Toad the Wet Sprocket proved a satisfying venture on the strength of nostalgia alone but failed to deliver much hope for the band's future. For that, they'll need strong, new material. Openers Bleu and Alice Peacock revealed the kind of pop/rock the kids have been making while Toad has been away. Peacock, starting on piano and moving to acoustic guitar, fronted a solid three-piece band on "Alabama Boy" and "I'll Be the One," from her self-titled album, emphasizing her strong voice on equally powerful melodies. Bleu's rather generic guitar pop didn't feel immediately disposable, thanks to strong melodies and smart arrangements in "Somebody Else," from the "Spider-Man" soundtrack, but the cover of Huey Lewis' "Heart of Rock and Roll" smelled of desperation.
I did NOT know that...thanks. (sorry, just learned you could edit RESPONSES)
Posted 20 years ago by trekhead    [ Reply ]
NYY96 wrote:
Decent but nothing special or original
True, but there are some nice touches. The bass line is excellent, song has good dynamics. A 7 from this corner --- quite likeable.
Posted 20 years ago by phineas    [ Reply ]
Keep up with the rocking cuts, RP! You on a roll.
Posted 20 years ago by stevebeaver    [ Reply ]
Back together and touring. Thought you might enjoy this. Toad the Wet Sprocket By BRIAN Q. NEWCOMB Post-Dispatch 02/17/2003 If Toad the Wet Sprocket needed proof that fans welcome a reunion tour, they got it Sunday night, when a sold-out crowd packed Mississippi Nights despite snow and icy roads. Opening with \"Whatever I Fear\" from its most recent full-length effort, \"Coil\" (1997), Toad\'s reunited foursome were received warmly. \"Something\'s Always Wrong\" went back to the band\'s successful 1994 disc, \"Dulcinea,\" from which they turned out \"Fly From Heaven,\" \"Woodburning\" and \"Crowing\" in rapid succession. The band solidly played the acoustic, alternative pop/rock creations that often got them labeled as R.E.M.-lite. They\'ve done little to change that perception. Singer and principal songwriter Glen Phillips appeared comfortable in his role at center stage, where he led the band through a fair share of Toad\'s biggest hits and more obscure tracks. \"All I Want\" seemed to capture the evening\'s emotional draw as fans sang along: \"All I want is to feel this way, to feel this close, to feel the same.\" But time waits for no band. Phillips offered \"Drive By\" alone on acoustic guitar, a song from his indie solo offering, and guitarist Todd Nichols sang \"See You Again, by his band Lapdog. Earlier, Phillips introduced a new Toad song, an electric guitar-driven track with the refrain, \"We\'ve got a lot to be thankful for.\" Given the supportive crowd, that\'s an understandable sentiment, but the song\'s incomplete feel left something to be desired. \"Windmills,\" \"Stupid,\" \"Good Intentions\" and \"Fall Down\" closed out the 75-minute set. \"Crazy Life\" and the band\'s biggest hit, \"Walk on the Ocean\" were strong encores. The return of Toad the Wet Sprocket proved a satisfying venture on the strength of nostalgia alone but failed to deliver much hope for the band\'s future. For that, they\'ll need strong, new material. Openers Bleu and Alice Peacock revealed the kind of pop/rock the kids have been making while Toad has been away. Peacock, starting on piano and moving to acoustic guitar, fronted a solid three-piece band on \"Alabama Boy\" and \"I\'ll Be the One,\" from her self-titled album, emphasizing her strong voice on equally powerful melodies. Bleu\'s rather generic guitar pop didn\'t feel immediately disposable, thanks to strong melodies and smart arrangements in \"Somebody Else,\" from the \"Spider-Man\" soundtrack, but the cover of Huey Lewis\' \"Heart of Rock and Roll\" smelled of desperation.
Posted 22 years ago by mperry    [ Reply ]
Originally Posted by NYY96: Decent but nothing special or original
Hey, they come from Santa Barbara, whadaya expect? Just cause you live in nirvana doesn't mean you can write killer music. That nirvana things is kind of like novacaine, not horse (Layla) or speed (Disraeli Gears).
Posted 22 years ago by ezzyme    [ Reply ]
I always wanted to like this band. Loved the vocalist but often found the songs a little bland. This song comes closest to fulfilling the band\'s potential IMHO
Posted 22 years ago by Wallyman    [ Reply ]
Generic....rock. Eh...
Posted 22 years ago by BC_Night_Heron    [ Reply ]
One of my all time favorite TTWS songs.
Posted 23 years ago by Keiger    [ Reply ]
Never understood why this one didn\'t do better. Oh well, their loss.
Posted 23 years ago by jdwhit76    [ Reply ]
Decent but nothing special or original
Posted 23 years ago by NYY96    [ Reply ]