Miles Davis — Freddie Freeloader
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So much *10* for me.
tulfan wrote:
Cheers, tulfan.
"Live Bullet" was a great live album, before Bob became mega-popular.
Easy there. Each artist has their place and no comparison of their particular genres would be apt or fair. Being raised in Seger country I grew weary of his "hits" long ago but if one dug deep he is/was quite accomplished. Miles, as an innovator, was likely subjected to more scrutiny than he deserved but that is often the cost for a true "artist". I appreciate both aforementioned artists and am most grateful that Miles led me to learn about and appreciate pianist Bill Evans. I was also quite interested about the time Miles spent in Detroit.
Cheers, tulfan.
"Live Bullet" was a great live album, before Bob became mega-popular.
idiot_wind wrote:
The thing of it is, Miles was smart enough (e.g. Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Lucinda Williams) to hire really, really good musicians and give them space to play and create,
He and the band members use a "circle of 5ths" to arrange notes, chords, harmonics, melodics...tones.
So there's a structure but freedom to move (like John Mayhall says).
* Mayall
The thing of it is, Miles was smart enough (e.g. Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Lucinda Williams) to hire really, really good musicians and give them space to play and create,
He and the band members use a "circle of 5ths" to arrange notes, chords, harmonics, melodics...tones.
So there's a structure but freedom to move (like John Mayhall says).
* Mayall
idiot_wind wrote:
The thing of it is, Miles was smart enough (e.g. Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Lucinda Williams) to hire really, really good musicians and give them space to play and create,
He and the band members use a "circle of 5ths" to arrange notes, chords, harmonics, melodics...tones.
So there's a structure but freedom to move (like John Mayhall says).
To say Davis "hired" Bill Evans or "hired" Coltrane or the rest is to diminish each one's individual genius. These guys had all been working together one way or another for years.
The thing of it is, Miles was smart enough (e.g. Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Lucinda Williams) to hire really, really good musicians and give them space to play and create,
He and the band members use a "circle of 5ths" to arrange notes, chords, harmonics, melodics...tones.
So there's a structure but freedom to move (like John Mayhall says).
To say Davis "hired" Bill Evans or "hired" Coltrane or the rest is to diminish each one's individual genius. These guys had all been working together one way or another for years.
idiot_wind wrote:
The thing of it is, Miles was smart enough (e.g. Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Lucinda Williams) to hire really, really good musicians and give them space to play and create,
He and the band members use a "circle of 5ths" to arrange notes, chords, harmonics, melodics...tones.
So there's a structure but freedom to move (like John Mayhall says).
And, it seems to work very well!!
The thing of it is, Miles was smart enough (e.g. Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Lucinda Williams) to hire really, really good musicians and give them space to play and create,
He and the band members use a "circle of 5ths" to arrange notes, chords, harmonics, melodics...tones.
So there's a structure but freedom to move (like John Mayhall says).
And, it seems to work very well!!
In 1960, when I was about 5 years old, CBS broadcast "The Sound of Miles Davis". The performance was recorded in 1959 but broadcast in July of 1960. My father was transfixed watching and listening to Miles and have fond memories sitting next to him. Being all of 5, I had no real appreciation for jazz but the manner in which the performance unfolded felt important. Whenever I hear anything from "Kind of Blue" I am transported back to that time seated next to my dad on a hot July night and witnessing musical importance.
On_The_Beach wrote:
You're so right. Miles was such a hack. What did he ever do for music? He certainly can't hold a candle to Rush or Bob Seger, who you rate "8"! No doubt Miles spent many a tortured, sleepless night, cursing his fate; "Why, oh why, can't I have the talent of Bob Seger? Why, WHY, WHYYYYYYYYYYY?!".
Easy there. Each artist has their place and no comparison of their particular genres would be apt or fair. Being raised in Seger country I grew weary of his "hits" long ago but if one dug deep he is/was quite accomplished. Miles, as an innovator, was likely subjected to more scrutiny than he deserved but that is often the cost for a true "artist". I appreciate both aforementioned artists and am most grateful that Miles led me to learn about and appreciate pianist Bill Evans. I was also quite interested about the time Miles spent in Detroit.
You're so right. Miles was such a hack. What did he ever do for music? He certainly can't hold a candle to Rush or Bob Seger, who you rate "8"! No doubt Miles spent many a tortured, sleepless night, cursing his fate; "Why, oh why, can't I have the talent of Bob Seger? Why, WHY, WHYYYYYYYYYYY?!".
Easy there. Each artist has their place and no comparison of their particular genres would be apt or fair. Being raised in Seger country I grew weary of his "hits" long ago but if one dug deep he is/was quite accomplished. Miles, as an innovator, was likely subjected to more scrutiny than he deserved but that is often the cost for a true "artist". I appreciate both aforementioned artists and am most grateful that Miles led me to learn about and appreciate pianist Bill Evans. I was also quite interested about the time Miles spent in Detroit.
Segueing into Miles Davis from the Bad Plus cover of "Flim" -- very shrewd. I like it. :-)
Perfection from the "King of Cool".
idiot_wind wrote:
In the town where I went to college the closest liquor store was downtown, on small traffic circle, which the music students called... you guessed it... the "Circle of Fifths".
Still trying to figure out the circle of fifths, when I hear these guys play.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_fifths
In the town where I went to college the closest liquor store was downtown, on small traffic circle, which the music students called... you guessed it... the "Circle of Fifths".
idiot_wind wrote:
Thank You for the info.
Still trying to figure out the circle of fifths, when I hear these guys play.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_fifths
Thank You for the info.
eyke wrote:
I Agree!!
sublime...just sublime....
as is the whole album.
I Agree!!
sublime...just sublime....
as is the whole album.
as is the whole album.
Miles born in Alton, IL just up river from E St Louis, on the Mississippi River.
It's that river thing that make crazy cats our of normal people.
I've seen it.
Like Chuck Berry, Uncle Tupelo, Wilco, Son Volt. Same place...different time...same river.
It's that river thing that make crazy cats our of normal people.
I've seen it.
Like Chuck Berry, Uncle Tupelo, Wilco, Son Volt. Same place...different time...same river.
hbs47 wrote:
"Stupidity has a certain charm - Ignorance does not" - Frank Zappa.
Same old same old. Every artists tunes have the same walking bass, with a load of tuneless wanking over the top, jazz what is it good for?
"Stupidity has a certain charm - Ignorance does not" - Frank Zappa.
And you can high on this stuff...especially if you listen to each side.
It's like the French say: "Magnifique"!
It's like the French say: "Magnifique"!
bluefrog wrote:
And so was Bill Evans, John Coltrane and Cannonball Adderly. and they all played on this album too.
One of the many reasons this is called a "seminal work".
The thing of it is, Miles was smart enough (e.g. Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Lucinda Williams) to hire really, really good musicians and give them space to play and create,
He and the band members use a "circle of 5ths" to arrange notes, chords, harmonics, melodics...tones.
So there's a structure but freedom to move (like John Mayhall says).
And so was Bill Evans, John Coltrane and Cannonball Adderly. and they all played on this album too.
One of the many reasons this is called a "seminal work".
The thing of it is, Miles was smart enough (e.g. Bob Dylan, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, Lucinda Williams) to hire really, really good musicians and give them space to play and create,
He and the band members use a "circle of 5ths" to arrange notes, chords, harmonics, melodics...tones.
So there's a structure but freedom to move (like John Mayhall says).
GODLIKE!!! ICONIC!!!
This song, when I have played it, has made many of even my pickiest Rock purist friends say, "Hey, that's kinda cool -- what's that?" As for me, I was hooked on my very first listen. This is pure expression, impeccably recorded -- immortal jams for our eternal enjoyment! I can never forget riding the elevator of the Keio Plaza Hotel from the 36th Floor down to the lobby the afternoon of my first day of my 20 years in Japan -- after flying across the Dateline and having been awake for a full day and night already -- when an earthquake caused the elevator to jerk sideways, bang against the shaft, and finally stop swinging before reaching the ground at last. The Japanese businessmen looked bored and annoyed. I was like, Oh my God, I'm so glad to still be alive! As we all spilled out, through the opulent lobby came strolling Miles Davis, cool as can be; in town for the Jazz Festival. Thanks, RP and Miles!
Just received my new copy of the UHQR release of this timeless classic. Well worth every penny too. What a beautiful pressing of such a great record.
I have never heard a song so close to Simcity 3000 game music that's not actually part of the game. Needless to say, a lot of that game's music was inspired by 1950s/1960s jazz greats.
Very pissed, someone stole my Kind of Blue vinyl 
memoryboxer wrote:
Yes! I listen to it directly. But also I use a mix of Miles Davis, Dizzy Gillespie, Thelonius Monk, and Dave Brubeck when I have people over... the music helps make it elegant and enjoyable.
This album is now 60 years old - a year older than I am. I was introduced to it when I was 21 or 22 - a time when my tastes ranged from Elton John to Steely Dan, Pink Floyd to Steeleye Span, Bowie to Tull, with heavy doses of Zepplin and Hawkwind balanced by Kate Bush and Talking Heads. I wasn't afraid to explore diffetent musical genres but knew fuck all about jazz beyond the Steely Dan and Joni influences. While my folks had raised me on 40s swing Big Bands like Glen Miller and Benny Goodman I'd never heard anything like Miles. Immediately hooked. I went forwards and backwards in Miles's catalogue - the earlier covers of classics were "nice", later Bitches Brew fusion stuff was (still is) nearly unlistenable to my ears. Over the years I've enjoyed his explorations into other territories - love Aura and Doobop especially. But Kinda Blue has remained a very particular form of aural Comfort Food. Anyone moaning about it needs to sit down with their mellow of choice and a fine set of speakers or headphones and just let it flow. Take the time to REALLY listen.
Yes! I listen to it directly. But also I use a mix of Miles Davis, Dizzy Gillespie, Thelonius Monk, and Dave Brubeck when I have people over... the music helps make it elegant and enjoyable.
This album =10
buddy wrote:
And so was Bill Evans, John Coltrane and Cannonball Adderly. and they all played on this album too.
One of the many reasons this is called a "seminal work".
The man was a genius.
And so was Bill Evans, John Coltrane and Cannonball Adderly. and they all played on this album too.
One of the many reasons this is called a "seminal work".
Musical w*nking.....
I agree perfectly with this review. Bitches Brew was some kin of landmark for fusion jazz but I cannot listen to more than 2 minutes of it. Yet this album is SOOOO soothing.
memoryboxer wrote:
memoryboxer wrote:
This album is now 60 years old - a year older than I am. I was introduced to it when I was 21 or 22 - a time when my tastes ranged from Elton John to Steely Dan, Pink Floyd to Steeleye Span, Bowie to Tull, with heavy doses of Zepplin and Hawkwind balanced by Kate Bush and Talking Heads. I wasn't afraid to explore diffetent musical genres but knew fuck all about jazz beyond the Steely Dan and Joni influences. While my folks had raised me on 40s swing Big Bands like Glen Miller and Benny Goodman I'd never heard anything like Miles. Immediately hooked. I went forwards and backwards in Miles's catalogue - the earlier covers of classics were "nice", later Bitches Brew fusion stuff was (still is) nearly unlistenable to my ears. Over the years I've enjoyed his explorations into other territories - love Aura and Doobop especially. But Kinda Blue has remained a very particular form of aural Comfort Food. Anyone moaning about it needs to sit down with their mellow of choice and a fine set of speakers or headphones and just let it flow. Take the time to REALLY listen.
coloradojohn wrote:
Yes! They did it together with a loose idea and then ...just created from air. Those 9 mins and 45 seconds were set aside by God. She sat amongst them, cheering, cajoling and laughing as they played. I know they felt and saw her but kept it to themselves.
Every one of the people who ever glanced at my collection and said, "Hey I realize I should know SOME of this jazz, but I don't know where to start..." saw me drop what I was doing and shove this CD into their hands...and within days, they were HOOKED. Yup, it's that good. Every single musician on it is in top improvisational form, too — which is far more complicated than it sounds! DIAMOND!
Yes! They did it together with a loose idea and then ...just created from air. Those 9 mins and 45 seconds were set aside by God. She sat amongst them, cheering, cajoling and laughing as they played. I know they felt and saw her but kept it to themselves.
This is in the very top rank of my mental playlist. If it were not for self imposed controls I would play this album nearly every day. Just can't do that. So I have very strict rules for how often I will listen to particular songs. I don't ever want to be even faintly bored with any of the best ones. This one gets a once yearly allowance because of how old and special my relationship to the tune is. So, thanks Bill. RP is increasingly using my listen-allowances for the greatest of songs. Long live RP!
allenface wrote:
I was introduced to this when it first came out in '59. I was in my teens (14) and while my friends were into do-wop and Beach Boys, etc., I always dug jazz. Now I did listen to lots of rock and had several rock bands as a teen but jazz was always closer to me and we would occasionally play some upbeat jazz tunes. This album was gifted when I bought a used Channel Master Stereo amp. It came with a Garrad turntable. The version I had was mono and I played it so much (Can't lie, I mistreated the album), that I had to get a new one, this time stereo. I also have the CD. The man gave me a bunch of albums with Kind of Blue,some Buddy Rich, Woody Herman, Mancini, Mahalia Jackson, etc. etc. Kind of Blue is perhaps the best jazz album ever. Paul chambers on bass, Bill Evans on piano, John Coltrane and Cannon Ball Adderley on tenor and alto sax. Wow! What a line up. He also gave me a Lambert Hendricks and Bavan Album. Pretty much changed my life. But Kind of Blue is as good as it gets. Thanks for playing it from time to time.
memoryboxer wrote:
This album is now 60 years old - a year older than I am. I was introduced to it when I was 21 or 22 - a time when my tastes ranged from Elton John to Steely Dan, Pink Floyd to Steeleye Span, Bowie to Tull, with heavy doses of Zepplin and Hawkwind balanced by Kate Bush and Talking Heads. I wasn't afraid to explore diffetent musical genres but knew fuck all about jazz beyond the Steely Dan and Joni influences. While my folks had raised me on 40s swing Big Bands like Glen Miller and Benny Goodman I'd never heard anything like Miles. Immediately hooked. I went forwards and backwards in Miles's catalogue - the earlier covers of classics were "nice", later Bitches Brew fusion stuff was (still is) nearly unlistenable to my ears. Over the years I've enjoyed his explorations into other territories - love Aura and Doobop especially. But Kinda Blue has remained a very particular form of aural Comfort Food. Anyone moaning about it needs to sit down with their mellow of choice and a fine set of speakers or headphones and just let it flow. Take the time to REALLY listen.
idiot_wind wrote:
Wow!
Thank you, idiot_wind, for helping to educate me musically. This "circle of fifths" insight into music theory just blows my mind. It reminds me how much I wish I'd studied music in college.
But that's another story.Thank all that brought RP into my life.
Still trying to figure out the circle of fifths, when I hear these guys play.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_fifths
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_fifths
Wow!
Thank you, idiot_wind, for helping to educate me musically. This "circle of fifths" insight into music theory just blows my mind. It reminds me how much I wish I'd studied music in college.
But that's another story.Thank all that brought RP into my life.
Great segue from The Bad Plus.
memoryboxer wrote:
Excellent take!
This album is now 60 years old - a year older than I am. I was introduced to it when I was 21 or 22 - a time when my tastes ranged from Elton John to Steely Dan, Pink Floyd to Steeleye Span, Bowie to Tull, with heavy doses of Zepplin and Hawkwind balanced by Kate Bush and Talking Heads. I wasn't afraid to explore diffetent musical genres but knew fuck all about jazz beyond the Steely Dan and Joni influences. While my folks had raised me on 40s swing Big Bands like Glen Miller and Benny Goodman I'd never heard anything like Miles. Immediately hooked. I went forwards and backwards in Miles's catalogue - the earlier covers of classics were "nice", later Bitches Brew fusion stuff was (still is) nearly unlistenable to my ears. Over the years I've enjoyed his explorations into other territories - love Aura and Doobop especially. But Kinda Blue has remained a very particular form of aural Comfort Food. Anyone moaning about it needs to sit down with their mellow of choice and a fine set of speakers or headphones and just let it flow. Take the time to REALLY listen.
Excellent take!
Can you say "Outstanding"?....Yes indeed, I can 
Mille mercis
Miles
encore
et souvent
Miles
encore
et souvent
more miles ! more miles!
Still trying to figure out the circle of fifths, when I hear these guys play.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_fifths
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_of_fifths
Sitting out a tropical rainstorm in Mexico and this adds some welcomed warmth.
darinc38122449 wrote:
Word ...
Still one of my favorite pieces of music. Sunday evening, my back porch, and a cocktail. Really, there is no reason why life has to be that complicated. 
Word ...
Jon Hendrix did a wonderful scat/bebop vocal arrangement of this, with Bobby McFerrin and Al Jarreau.
idiot_wind wrote:
Know what you mean, but when you listen to these sessions as a unified thing what makes it amazing is finding them all working together. The dif between Miles and Coltrane in the early shift is just so fucking FLAT. Like a thick dark line. What a record. Genius behind all this.
Know what you mean, but when you listen to these sessions as a unified thing what makes it amazing is finding them all working together. The dif between Miles and Coltrane in the early shift is just so fucking FLAT. Like a thick dark line. What a record. Genius behind all this.
So here's the debate I have.
Which is more engaging: Coltrane on this album where's he'a playing with a top notch group.
Or him playing with his own group on Giant Steps or Favorite Things. I mean McCoy Tyner was at top of his game. on piano and Coltrane knew it.
Which is more engaging: Coltrane on this album where's he'a playing with a top notch group.
Or him playing with his own group on Giant Steps or Favorite Things. I mean McCoy Tyner was at top of his game. on piano and Coltrane knew it.
Still one of my favorite pieces of music. Sunday evening, my back porch, and a cocktail. Really, there is no reason why life has to be that complicated.
Does not get any better than this!
Only the train maybe...
Only the train maybe...
...a good brew and a fine cigar, for starters hbs47 wrote:
Same old same old. Every artists tunes have the same walking bass, with a load of tuneless wanking over the top, jazz what is it good for?
This album is now 60 years old - a year older than I am. I was introduced to it when I was 21 or 22 - a time when my tastes ranged from Elton John to Steely Dan, Pink Floyd to Steeleye Span, Bowie to Tull, with heavy doses of Zepplin and Hawkwind balanced by Kate Bush and Talking Heads. I wasn't afraid to explore diffetent musical genres but knew fuck all about jazz beyond the Steely Dan and Joni influences. While my folks had raised me on 40s swing Big Bands like Glen Miller and Benny Goodman I'd never heard anything like Miles. Immediately hooked. I went forwards and backwards in Miles's catalogue - the earlier covers of classics were "nice", later Bitches Brew fusion stuff was (still is) nearly unlistenable to my ears. Over the years I've enjoyed his explorations into other territories - love Aura and Doobop especially. But Kinda Blue has remained a very particular form of aural Comfort Food. Anyone moaning about it needs to sit down with their mellow of choice and a fine set of speakers or headphones and just let it flow. Take the time to REALLY listen.
started out so great, then it lost me
The thing about this album is who's playing with him and how much spotlight and freedom his gives to them. Remember: Miles could be a real jerk at times.
But on this album he lets Coltrane and Adderly "outplay" him at times. This format was adopted in the next decade by alot of RnR bands.
But on this album he lets Coltrane and Adderly "outplay" him at times. This format was adopted in the next decade by alot of RnR bands.
Yeah, take that bass for a walk!
johnnyvelcro wrote:
Rebecca and Bill moved from Paradise before the fires hit. They're OK but all of their friends from Paradise lost their homes.
does anyone know if they're ok? fires and all?
Rebecca and Bill moved from Paradise before the fires hit. They're OK but all of their friends from Paradise lost their homes.
Kind OP Blue is one of those iconic records of where there's no bad track on it; the whole album just flows. But I love this track in particular. Hard to not feel good while listening to it.
johnnyvelcro wrote:
I emailed Bill to see if they got out OK. Obviously radio is still going...
does anyone know if they're ok? fires and all?
I emailed Bill to see if they got out OK. Obviously radio is still going...
does anyone know if they're ok? fires and all?
The thing I like about this is that it's clean and simple. A bunch of cats in a room playing their instruments the best they know how. No flash no fury. Just a timeless swingin' tune. I wish I had my bigger speakers hooked up for this.
kingart wrote:
Thank you, kingart.
You saved me a lot of typing. ; )
hbs47, what?
Is that a rhetorical question? Jazz, what is it good for? Well, for one thing, it's the *only* art form that exclusively originated and was mastered in America. It evolves from the history — slavery, blues, gospel, folk. For everything else — movies, painting, all the others — Americans were not first and never necessarily did it better or more incisively than anyone from UK, France, Russia, etc. That's what it's good for. It's *American* music and great art. That's just for starters. And Miles would have been the very first to ask you what your dumb ass question was good for?
Is that a rhetorical question? Jazz, what is it good for? Well, for one thing, it's the *only* art form that exclusively originated and was mastered in America. It evolves from the history — slavery, blues, gospel, folk. For everything else — movies, painting, all the others — Americans were not first and never necessarily did it better or more incisively than anyone from UK, France, Russia, etc. That's what it's good for. It's *American* music and great art. That's just for starters. And Miles would have been the very first to ask you what your dumb ass question was good for?
Thank you, kingart.
You saved me a lot of typing. ; )
This ALWAYS stops me in my tracks and has me relax and pay attention. Mastery.
hbs47 wrote:
hbs47, what?
Is that a rhetorical question? Jazz, what is it good for? Well, for one thing, it's the *only* art form that exclusively originated and was mastered in America. It evolves from the history -- slavery, blues, gospel, folk. For everything else -- movies, painting, all the others -- Americans were not first and never necessarily did it better or more incisively than anyone from UK, France, Russia, etc. That's what it's good for. It's *American* music and great art. That's just for starters. And Miles would have been the very first to ask you what your dumb ass question was good for?
Same old same old. Every artists tunes have the same walking bass, with a load of tuneless wanking over the top, jazz what is it good for?
hbs47, what?
Is that a rhetorical question? Jazz, what is it good for? Well, for one thing, it's the *only* art form that exclusively originated and was mastered in America. It evolves from the history -- slavery, blues, gospel, folk. For everything else -- movies, painting, all the others -- Americans were not first and never necessarily did it better or more incisively than anyone from UK, France, Russia, etc. That's what it's good for. It's *American* music and great art. That's just for starters. And Miles would have been the very first to ask you what your dumb ass question was good for?
The man was a genius.
The Quincy Jones morning orange juice
Not a big jazz or trumpet fan but this is coconut milk.
Same old same old. Every artists tunes have the same walking bass, with a load of tuneless wanking over the top, jazz what is it good for?
I actually saw Miles twice at Jazz Festivals ( not during THIS era of his career of course) -- always amazing
hayduke2 wrote:
A1
You said it right, improv is not easy. When you get musicians like these guys they make improv look easy, but it is NOT at all. If done poorly is sounds cacophonous.
A1
You said it right, improv is not easy. When you get musicians like these guys they make improv look easy, but it is NOT at all. If done poorly is sounds cacophonous.
fraserji wrote:
Well said, Kingart.
kingart wrote:
You certainly have committed one by apparently dissin' this performance.
If you believe John Coltrane and Davis are 'punishment', I'll be the first to be flogged. Thank you, sir, may I have some more?
You certainly have committed one by apparently dissin' this performance.
If you believe John Coltrane and Davis are 'punishment', I'll be the first to be flogged. Thank you, sir, may I have some more?
coloradojohn wrote:
A1
Every one of the people who ever glanced at my collection and said, "Hey I realize I should know SOME of this jazz, but I don't know where to start..." saw me drop what I was doing and shove this CD into their hands...and within days, they were HOOKED. Yup, it's that good. Every single musician on it is in top improvisational form, too — which is far more complicated than it sounds! DIAMOND!
A1
DANCING MY A... Off! Yeah RP. Love YOU!
The piano solo sound way in the background to me. 
But I still love this jazz jam.
But I still love this jazz jam.
johnjconn wrote:
You certainly have committed one by apparently dissin' this performance.
If you believe John Coltrane and Davis are 'punishment', I'll be the first to be flogged. Thank you, sir, may I have some more?
I wonder if God uses jazz music as punishment for those who've committed some sin.
You certainly have committed one by apparently dissin' this performance.
If you believe John Coltrane and Davis are 'punishment', I'll be the first to be flogged. Thank you, sir, may I have some more?
Skydog wrote:
Oh you said it already! Now, here, same!
the PSD dice are rolling just perfect, think I'll log out and put "Kind Of Blue" on the stereo
Oh you said it already! Now, here, same!
Great Bass!the PSD dice are rolling just perfect, think I'll log out and put "Kind Of Blue" on the stereo
Pedro1874 wrote:
We're now down to nine.
Only 10 Miles' tracks in the library Bill?! 
More please 
More please We're now down to nine.
1wolfy wrote:
Ardbeg . . . or maybe Lagavulin.
to be enjoyed with a fancy glass of ______. you fill in the blank
Ardbeg . . . or maybe Lagavulin.
More like this pleeeeeeease?
Freddie can freeload at mine anytime if he brings tunes like this
Only 10 Miles' tracks in the library Bill?! More please
More please Jahgal wrote:
I'd go to that party, Mingus on the ipod to help you out!
along with a few other party favours to ensure the mellowness....
I had to jump in and concur that jazz is not always easy listening for me either. It definitely sets a mood though and I use it almost therapeutically because of that fact. Recently I discovered some Stan Getz with Oscar Peterson and Coleman Hawkins stuff I purchased for my late father who was a fan of each. It is quite amazing stuff in its own right as well. The few Coltrane cuts I have are simply amazing...
I'd go to that party, Mingus on the ipod to help you out!
along with a few other party favours to ensure the mellowness....I had to jump in and concur that jazz is not always easy listening for me either. It definitely sets a mood though and I use it almost therapeutically because of that fact. Recently I discovered some Stan Getz with Oscar Peterson and Coleman Hawkins stuff I purchased for my late father who was a fan of each. It is quite amazing stuff in its own right as well. The few Coltrane cuts I have are simply amazing...
Sweet. Not familiar with this. Just put it on buy list.
this is outstanding
Sounds like Mumford & Sons, too repetitive, like nails on a chalkboard, derivative. Those seem to be the four most widely-used comments for every song. 9
unclehud wrote:
Are you genetically defective for not liking Miles? Perhaps, but you're definitely not alone. Frankly, I think it's more like you're in too big a hurry to hear something familiar or relatively familiar. Real jazz isn't always easy listening.
I love Miles; love Coltrane; love Brubeck; love the MJQ; love the Crusadaers; and love many, many others. But I wouldn't put them in my playlist for a cocktail party — unless it's late and everybody's feeling verrrrrrrrry mellow..
I'd go to that party, Mingus on the ipod to help you out!
along with a few other party favours to ensure the mellowness....
Are you genetically defective for not liking Miles? Perhaps, but you're definitely not alone. Frankly, I think it's more like you're in too big a hurry to hear something familiar or relatively familiar. Real jazz isn't always easy listening.
I love Miles; love Coltrane; love Brubeck; love the MJQ; love the Crusadaers; and love many, many others. But I wouldn't put them in my playlist for a cocktail party — unless it's late and everybody's feeling verrrrrrrrry mellow..
I'd go to that party, Mingus on the ipod to help you out!
along with a few other party favours to ensure the mellowness....I think I take exception to the title of this rambling noodling kool-fest for hepcats... ;(
1wolfy wrote:
painkillers?
to be enjoyed with a fancy glass of ______. you fill in the blank
painkillers?
Any time any place............. genius
This is top 3 desert island selection for SURE!
Don't get me wrong I can appreciate jazz and the musicianship behind it, there is some unbelievable stuff in there, its just not my thing.
My buddy once told me an analogy of how he thinks of it and it rings true for me as well:
"Jazz is all the musicians playing their own song in closed rooms and every now and then someone opens the doors so they can hear each other."
My buddy once told me an analogy of how he thinks of it and it rings true for me as well:
"Jazz is all the musicians playing their own song in closed rooms and every now and then someone opens the doors so they can hear each other."
I think some people think that you have to be "hip" or "cool" or something to get jazz. Not to me. I just listen to it and go along for the ride. It takes me to a different space than rock although I love rock n' roll, as well. It's the beauty of music. There's something here for everybody.
to be enjoyed with a fancy glass of ______. you fill in the blank
Too cool for school.
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coloradojohn wrote:
Amen to that! (Swing it Shinjuku!)
Every one of the people who ever glanced at my collection and said, "Hey I realize I should know SOME of this jazz, but I don't know where to start..." saw me drop what I was doing and shove this CD into their hands...and within days, they were HOOKED. Yup, it's that good. Every single musician on it is in top improvisational form, too — which is far more complicated than it sounds! DIAMOND!
Amen to that! (Swing it Shinjuku!)
Every one of the people who ever glanced at my collection and said, "Hey I realize I should know SOME of this jazz, but I don't know where to start..." saw me drop what I was doing and shove this CD into their hands...and within days, they were HOOKED. Yup, it's that good. Every single musician on it is in top improvisational form, too — which is far more complicated than it sounds! DIAMOND!
Cynaera wrote:
Well said!
A lot of these older jazz pieces were very improvisational - they started out rough, but as the band found its groove and got "in the pocket," all manner of music emerged. Some was beautiful, some was dissonant, but it was all from the soul. Very experimental, explorative music. I used to hate this stuff, but I guess as I've gotten older, I've learned to appreciate what went into creating this type of sound. Lots of risks, lots of mistakes, lots of laughter and anger - but mostly, lots of guts to put unpolished solos out there for public review.
I will never ridicule free-form jazz music again. It takes bravery to venture out where there are no boundaries. Miles Davis and his band did that, and they did it with style.
I will never ridicule free-form jazz music again. It takes bravery to venture out where there are no boundaries. Miles Davis and his band did that, and they did it with style.
Well said!
A lot of these older jazz pieces were very improvisational - they started out rough, but as the band found its groove and got "in the pocket," all manner of music emerged. Some was beautiful, some was dissonant, but it was all from the soul. Very experimental, explorative music. I used to hate this stuff, but I guess as I've gotten older, I've learned to appreciate what went into creating this type of sound. Lots of risks, lots of mistakes, lots of laughter and anger - but mostly, lots of guts to put unpolished solos out there for public review.
I will never ridicule free-form jazz music again. It takes bravery to venture out where there are no boundaries. Miles Davis and his band did that, and they did it with style.
I will never ridicule free-form jazz music again. It takes bravery to venture out where there are no boundaries. Miles Davis and his band did that, and they did it with style.
Never heard a collection of songs closer to perfection than Kind Of Blue. Its such a pleasure to hear after not listening to it for a while. The genius is that much more apparent.
Ok, that's more than enough. You can stop now - please?
werner wrote:
Are you genetically defective for not liking Miles? Perhaps, but you're definitely not alone. Frankly, I think it's more like you're in too big a hurry to hear something familiar or relatively familiar. Real jazz isn't always easy listening.
I love Miles; love Coltrane; love Brubeck; love the MJQ; love the Crusadaers; and love many, many others. But I wouldn't put them in my playlist for a cocktail party — unless it's late and everybody's feeling verrrrrrrrry mellow..
I am over 50 now and still don`t like it.
Maybe a genetic defect?
Maybe a genetic defect?
Are you genetically defective for not liking Miles? Perhaps, but you're definitely not alone. Frankly, I think it's more like you're in too big a hurry to hear something familiar or relatively familiar. Real jazz isn't always easy listening.
I love Miles; love Coltrane; love Brubeck; love the MJQ; love the Crusadaers; and love many, many others. But I wouldn't put them in my playlist for a cocktail party — unless it's late and everybody's feeling verrrrrrrrry mellow..
scrubbrush wrote:
and maybe a little on the dull side
This coming from someone in a "sea of calm".
and maybe a little on the dull sideThis coming from someone in a "sea of calm".
American music baby.
Xeric wrote:
and maybe a little on the dull side
Wow. This is really, really long.
and maybe a little on the dull sideThe opening chords (daaaaaaaah dah) were the theme for the local late-night jazz radio broadcast. Nice memories.
Xeric wrote:
That's what she said.
Wow. This is really, really long.
That's what she said.
Wow. This is really, really long.
... and I learned to play the sax because of Morphine, Dire Straits, and so on.
Am I alone out here??
I am over 50 now and still don`t like it.
Maybe a genetic defect?
Maybe a genetic defect?
Businessgypsy wrote:
Great 50th anniversary remaster out on this.
Yet another remaster? I remember paying far too much for the 20-bit release which first fixed the tape speed problem. I think there have been several re-releases since.
Great 50th anniversary remaster out on this.
Yet another remaster? I remember paying far too much for the 20-bit release which first fixed the tape speed problem. I think there have been several re-releases since.
I feel sooo cool.....
jersey_birdman wrote:
More Miles is better... Bumper stickers should be issued.....
Nice obscure reference! (NY Union Man?)love the piano in this
ramblinlamb wrote:
Parker for me, but you can't deny Miles in having huge influence on 99% of todays jazz cats.
It was pieces like this that inspired me to learn to play the saxophone!! Thank you Miles and crew!!!!!!
Parker for me, but you can't deny Miles in having huge influence on 99% of todays jazz cats.
Shaker wrote:
I can't answer that, but I can tell you I feel the same way about funk, which gives my DH hives.
I know some people say they just 'don't get' jazz but I can't really understand that. It just is and is= fantastic!
I can't answer that, but I can tell you I feel the same way about funk, which gives my DH hives.
Shaker wrote:
This is what God plays when he has a coffee break.
I know some people say they just 'don't get' jazz but I can't really understand that. It just is and is= fantastic!
This is what God plays when he has a coffee break.
More Miles is better... Bumper stickers should be issued.....
Businessgypsy wrote:
You know how the sound of fingernails on a blackboard drives some people nuts and others don't know what you are talking about? The sax in this piece is fingernails-on-a-chalkboard annoying to me. I guess my DNA must be a few strands short...
Monday morning Miles! Normally I am pretty tolerant of personal tastes and individual perspective, but if you don't grok Kind of Blue or at least appreciate the history and influence of this recording you might need a DNA test to determine your species.
Great 50th anniversary remaster out on this.
Great 50th anniversary remaster out on this.
You know how the sound of fingernails on a blackboard drives some people nuts and others don't know what you are talking about? The sax in this piece is fingernails-on-a-chalkboard annoying to me. I guess my DNA must be a few strands short...
I know some people say they just 'don't get' jazz but I can't really understand that. It just is and is= fantastic!
It was pieces like this that inspired me to learn to play the saxophone!! Thank you Miles and crew!!!!!!
Song just made my day thanks!