Talk Talk — I Believe In You
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Hear it in my spirit
I've seen heroin for myself
On the street so young, laying wasted
Enough, ain't it enough, crippled world
I just can't bring myself to see it starting
Tell me how I fear it
I buy prejudice for my health
Is it worth so much when you taste it?
Enough, there ain't enough hidden hurt
A time to sell yourself, a time for passing
Spirit
How long?
Spirit
Spirit
Spirit
How long?
Spirit
How long?
Spirit
I've seen heroin for myself
On the street so young, laying wasted
Enough, ain't it enough, crippled world
I just can't bring myself to see it starting
Tell me how I fear it
I buy prejudice for my health
Is it worth so much when you taste it?
Enough, there ain't enough hidden hurt
A time to sell yourself, a time for passing
Spirit
How long?
Spirit
Spirit
Spirit
How long?
Spirit
How long?
Spirit
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This track always stops what I’m doing and just captivates me with a feeling that is ethereal.
Thank you Mark Hollis, simply wonderful 😊
Thank you Mark Hollis, simply wonderful 😊
8 -> 9
This songs stirs me to the core and gives me goosebumps every time.
I logged on to give it a 10 and discovered that I had already rated it as a 10.
Ok, fine. It’s an 11 then.
I logged on to give it a 10 and discovered that I had already rated it as a 10.
Ok, fine. It’s an 11 then.
Too bad I never got to hear this in 1988. The radio stations were too busy slinging another 100 plays of George Michael's "Faith" and George Harrison's "Watch Out, I Might Sit On You".
Mark Hollis was as much a master of silence as the music he produced. His albums progressed into pure masterpieces A pure sonic genius. My all time favorite bands from the 80's.
Upon every listen to this track, I am captivated and taken in by the emotion and beauty of a spiritual kind.
Wonderful,😊
Wonderful,😊
They sound like Roxy Music here
Ben_D_Wire wrote:
couldn't agree more, unquestionably the best band of the 80's/90's, by some margin.
The backing choir on this track was recorded in my home town's cathedral, where my sister subsequently got married. Now that she's no longer with us, this track always reminds me of her and those times way back when.
As far as I'm concerned Talk Talk and Mark Hollis produced some of the finest music that just forces you to stop and listen. This one is a 10 for me.
couldn't agree more, unquestionably the best band of the 80's/90's, by some margin.
This is a very fine song, but it gets played more than just about any other song, here on RP. I enjoy the wide variety of music played here - and I would be happier hearing a little more of all that other music.
Ben_D_Wire wrote:
oh, that's beautiful. i'm sorry for your loss.
and i agree with you about talk talk for sure.
The backing choir on this track was recorded in my home town's cathedral, where my sister subsequently got married. Now that she's no longer with us, this track always reminds me of her and those times way back when.
As far as I'm concerned Talk Talk and Mark Hollis produced some of the finest music that just forces you to stop and listen. This one is a 10 for me.
oh, that's beautiful. i'm sorry for your loss.
and i agree with you about talk talk for sure.
ick wrote:
I Agree completely! Thanx RP!
This whole album is a fantastic work of auditory art.
I Agree completely! Thanx RP!
Ben_D_Wire wrote:
Thank You for sharing it with us!
The backing choir on this track was recorded in my home town's cathedral, where my sister subsequently got married. Now that she's no longer with us, this track always reminds me of her and those times way back when.
As far as I'm concerned Talk Talk and Mark Hollis produced some of the finest music that just forces you to stop and listen. This one is a 10 for me.
Thank You for sharing it with us!
10
Sublime
how come,
through all these years, I missed this? Yes indeedy, we like this.
through all these years, I missed this? Yes indeedy, we like this.Quelle douceur, quelle poésie. Magnifique !
First few twangs & we know it is him.
Marvellous music!
trekhead wrote:
Yes indeed.
Also nice. Anyone ever get Pete Townshend out of Mark's voice?
Yes indeed.
This whole album is a fantastic work of auditory art.
I just couldn't help but comment again...incredible. RP...playing TT and Mark Hollis. Wow...this song.
One of those bands whose bigger numbers I had heard and whose other tunes had passed my by until Bill put them on my radar. Thanks, Bill!
Ben_D_Wire wrote:
Thx for sharing this story. And yes... 10 out of 10 or even an 11. This song reminds me of a friend who is not with us any longer as well. But in a very positive way. Feel hugged my friend!
The backing choir on this track was recorded in my home town's cathedral, where my sister subsequently got married. Now that she's no longer with us, this track always reminds me of her and those times way back when.
As far as I'm concerned Talk Talk and Mark Hollis produced some of the finest music that just forces you to stop and listen. This one is a 10 for me.
Thx for sharing this story. And yes... 10 out of 10 or even an 11. This song reminds me of a friend who is not with us any longer as well. But in a very positive way. Feel hugged my friend!
Apparently written to his brother after he died of heroin. The vocals are so subdued you might not catch it. “I’ve seen heroin for myself.” Makes an achingly beautiful song all the more emotional. 10.
tm wrote:
The saddest voice in music history - - -> Mark Hollis.
I come to near tears listening to Mark... I wish he would have created more art... and all that he contributed to the world is absolutely beautiful.
The saddest voice in music history - - -> Mark Hollis.
If anything deserves a "10" designation, it's this.
I come to near tears listening to Mark... I wish he would have created more art... and all that he contributed to the world is absolutely beautiful.
Greatly underrated.
Easyrider wrote:
What a trip!!!
I marvel at how beautifully put together this song and all the album is but moreover, how it journeys you in the mind,thanks Mark🙏
What a trip!!!
Truth in music...
I marvel at how beautifully put together this song and all the album is but moreover, how it journeys you in the mind,thanks Mark🙏
Spiritually and emotionally moving,RIP Mark✌️
Your music will live on and on🙏
Went down a very deep and quite dark rabbit hole by googling this song / Ed H / Mark H.
Left with a vague feeling that if Ed Hollis had been able to get off of the Heroin / hard drugs path he was on, that Mark H may have chosen differently regarding continuing his own music career.
Left with a vague feeling that if Ed Hollis had been able to get off of the Heroin / hard drugs path he was on, that Mark H may have chosen differently regarding continuing his own music career.
Love it. Reminds me of Elbow - would love to hear Guy Garvey do this.
Painfully awful.
This is a band I never paid much attention to or even knew about back in the day. Even after hearing them on RP for years, I was not all that impressed. However, thanks to their airplay over the years, I've grown to be a fan. What once sounded quiet and indifferent to me has now blossomed into a thing of much-appreciated beauty.
I am pretty sure that this song - is the one that I hear the MOST often on RP.
I believe in Talk Talk.
Not much that even gets near to touching this.
Such a talent… we lost him too soon. His art has drilled itself into the core of my being
Monday morning reminder. No matter how bad I 'think' I have it...
Thank you Bill & Rebecca.
Thank you Bill & Rebecca.
Never fails to make me STOP whatever I'm doing, turn up the volume, close my eyes and tune into the possibilities...
When I have been down and felt all alone in the world, this song lifted me up. Magic.
If there's even one song released in the past 35 years that truly rates a 10, it's this one song. Perfection.
I marvel at how beautifully put together this song and all the album is but moreover, how it journeys you in the mind,thanks Mark🙏
The 10 by which all other 10s should be measured.
Good for the soul.
Tears, goosebumps, self-reflections, memories, gratitude, awe, warm love and muscles relaxing, EVERY TIME.
pure brilliance - a straight 10
reijkman wrote:
It was one of the more expensive commercially-pressed albums I ever bought. And worth every penny!
When I'm starting a new vinyl record collection, I'll start with the Spirit of Eden album
It was one of the more expensive commercially-pressed albums I ever bought. And worth every penny!
tinypriest wrote:
Or you might just visit your local North Face Outlet store (in this case Berkeley) and hear this playing as what might be seen as mood music for shoppers. Or possibly, the local employees made the choice. It's better heard here anyway. $10 a month from me
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Or you might just visit your local North Face Outlet store (in this case Berkeley) and hear this playing as what might be seen as mood music for shoppers. Or possibly, the local employees made the choice. It's better heard here anyway. $10 a month from me
Public Service Announcement: Please pay for RP. Send them $5 a month or MORE. I give and we should all do so. Nothing stays free. Support Radio Paradise. (I'm not paid to say this, just a fan, who pays for you to enjoy).
Que grandes. DEP HOLLIS. 
Simple and so pure. Incredible. Reading (anything I can find over the years) about the reclusive Mark Hollis...it was just the way he wanted it.
When I'm starting a new vinyl record collection, I'll start with the Spirit of Eden album
You can play that on my funeral
Nice!
It enters my spirit and takes me on musical trip of complete aural pleasure,amazing talent Mark.
We miss you so much🙏
This.song.makes.me.stop. . . . . every. time. It's like a soft neck rub.
Glad I picked up this album ... ahhh, the good days ... have a puff and dream on.
So damned groovy...
What a sound!
One of the greatest songs in the history of modern music. Thanks, Bill.
teenage wasteland still? pls dont let… seen enough.
Brilliant song! Spirit of Eden is one of the most underestimated albums in popular music history.
I feel like I was slightly too young for Talk Talk. It wasn’t really accessible enough when I was 10 for me to remember hearing them (I guess maybe they didn’t play on US radio in New England much)? As it is now I just don’t see the fuss.
Went out and paid full price for vinyl copy of this just the other day after hearing this on RP
Boxie wrote:
Trying too hard to be the Grateful Dead.
Some jokes I just don't get. This is a joke, right?And now I'll float away into the beautiful abyss...while still working at my desk!
suej wrote:
I think you alter your consciousness, not your conscience.
Right you are. Thanks for pointing that out.
I think you alter your consciousness, not your conscience.
Right you are. Thanks for pointing that out.
Superb. Good bye Mark Hollis and thank you
My favorite vinyl ever!!!!I've loved the last two albums for years, but since his passing, feel a gratitude for this music that I've never felt before.
Alaindelon wrote:
I believe that's the one available on DVD, plus YouTube I think. Fabulous event.
saw talk-talk years ago in montreux and remember almost every moment then. i don't remember another concert like this...
T-T wrote history and none of the new stuff will remain like this.
T-T wrote history and none of the new stuff will remain like this.
I believe that's the one available on DVD, plus YouTube I think. Fabulous event.
Trying too hard to be the Grateful Dead.
saw talk-talk years ago in montreux and remember almost every moment then. i don't remember another concert like this...
T-T wrote history and none of the new stuff will remain like this.
T-T wrote history and none of the new stuff will remain like this.
it is a 10 from me
Thank you for the wonderful music Mark,RIP🙏
More Mark Hollis/Talk Talk. Thank you.
Not many songs give me goosebumps.
This one does. . . Every. Single. Time.
Thank you Mark. You left a fine legacy.
This one does. . . Every. Single. Time.
Thank you Mark. You left a fine legacy.
Vakse wrote:
The good die too young.
what a loss…!
Thanks for playing Talk Talk.
Thanks for playing Talk Talk.
The good die too young.
An alright tune except for the unnecessary blurp-blop-irk noises. Sheesh.
Coupla years in a "jazz ashram," eh? Now that you mention it Mr. B, not a bad idea. At all.
Thanks to RP for introducing to his amazing album many years ago. I somehow missed their brilliance back in the 80s but it was hearing this album on RP that made me explore them deeper.
RIP Mark Hollis, you made this world a better place.
RIP Mark Hollis, you made this world a better place.
what a loss…!
Thanks for playing Talk Talk.
Thanks for playing Talk Talk.
What can I say? Taken away far too soon. Thank you for the music you gave us, and may you rest in peace.
RIP Mark Hollis
we believe in you
we believe in you
https://vassifer.blogs.com/ale...
sbird wrote:
sbird wrote:
Ah shit. RIP Mark Hollis. This was such a great band - groundbreaking at the time, and songs that still hold up. https://forums.hipinion.com/vi...
and https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news...
and https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news...
Thank you Mark. RIP.
Ah shit. RIP Mark Hollis. This was such a great band - groundbreaking at the time, and songs that still hold up. https://forums.hipinion.com/vi...
and https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news...
and https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news...
An album I keep going back to time after time. Unlike any other. Thank you Mark Hollis for your wonderful music. RIP 25/2/2019
Sad to hear about today's death of Talk Talk singer Mark Hollis. Great song, and great timing in playing this to acknowledge his death.
RIP Mark. You are much loved. Thank you for the magic you left us.
The backing choir on this track was recorded in my home town's cathedral, where my sister subsequently got married. Now that she's no longer with us, this track always reminds me of her and those times way back when.
As far as I'm concerned Talk Talk and Mark Hollis produced some of the finest music that just forces you to stop and listen. This one is a 10 for me.
eveliko wrote:
You know it. I saw Talk Talk open for Elvis Costello in 80 or 81, in a 1000 seat theater. Great show. I sort of don't like that the bands I adored in my youth, now becoming more popular as classics, I still like the exclusivity.
One more band whom I was the only one in my whole classroom to consider geniuses in the early eighties and everyone was making fun of me but I knew I was right and it feels soooo sweet today.
You know it. I saw Talk Talk open for Elvis Costello in 80 or 81, in a 1000 seat theater. Great show. I sort of don't like that the bands I adored in my youth, now becoming more popular as classics, I still like the exclusivity.
Where the hell was my head in 1988 when this came out? Thanks again to Bill for turning me on to another great album I somehow missed in my youth.
sehr gute Musik aus meiner Zeit...
great underated band , they still sound great.
One more band whom I was the only one in my whole classroom to consider geniuses in the early eighties and everyone was making fun of me but I knew I was right and it feels soooo sweet today.
Great, emotive voice of Mark Hollis. This album in particular has great staying power over the years.
johnalexford wrote:
I am right there with you! Thinking about getting the album and might have to find it on vinyl. This came out when I was a bit too young to appreciate the sonic chill-out it provides. Keep on "spinning" it BillG!! Long Live RP!!
I've now heard this song on RP maybe 3-4 times in the past few months (and trust me -this is NOT a complaint) and it continues to grow on me. Solid choice!
I am right there with you! Thinking about getting the album and might have to find it on vinyl. This came out when I was a bit too young to appreciate the sonic chill-out it provides. Keep on "spinning" it BillG!! Long Live RP!!
LOVING THIS. AGAIN.
Bill, thanks for this much needed "Zen" moment at the beginning of an insane Friday. Love this!!
I've now heard this song on RP maybe 3-4 times in the past few months (and trust me -this is NOT a complaint) and it continues to grow on me. Solid choice!
Castelfranco wrote:
Yes, alcohol is risky. It is the second most deadly and socio-economically destructive popular recreational drug after tobacco.
Alcohol is the violent assault, sexual assault, rape and homicide drug of choice.
As for altering your mind with tobacco, of course. It makes you dizzy. Before you collapse into laughter consider what early prophets did to alter their minds, they went into the desert, starved, possibly got sun stroke and then hallucinated for hours or days on end.
westslope wrote:
You can alter your conscience by diving along a coral reef or immersing yourself in another culture and language.
You can alter your conscience by being a 14-year old boy who has his first experience with Blonde Lebanese hashish.
Opiates are a very risky way of altering one's conscience. So is tobacco. Alcohol can also be extremely risky.
Alcohol is risky, really? Altering your mind with tobacco? No kidding?
You can alter your conscience by diving along a coral reef or immersing yourself in another culture and language.
You can alter your conscience by being a 14-year old boy who has his first experience with Blonde Lebanese hashish.
Opiates are a very risky way of altering one's conscience. So is tobacco. Alcohol can also be extremely risky.
Alcohol is risky, really? Altering your mind with tobacco? No kidding?
Yes, alcohol is risky. It is the second most deadly and socio-economically destructive popular recreational drug after tobacco.
Alcohol is the violent assault, sexual assault, rape and homicide drug of choice.
As for altering your mind with tobacco, of course. It makes you dizzy. Before you collapse into laughter consider what early prophets did to alter their minds, they went into the desert, starved, possibly got sun stroke and then hallucinated for hours or days on end.
Noé wrote:
Salut, gras ! Fait plèz' de voir un frenchy dans l'coin. :)
Mes chéris !!!
Salut, gras ! Fait plèz' de voir un frenchy dans l'coin. :)
Perfect after Collective Soul's impeccable "Listen." I love how this song dances on the edge of distortion and feedback and transcends!
Castelfranco wrote:
I think what he meant was altering your consciousness with alcohol, opiates, tobacco and hashish at the same time is risky. Come on people, be selective.
westslope wrote:
You can alter your conscience by diving along a coral reef or immersing yourself in another culture and language.
You can alter your conscience by being a 14-year old boy who has his first experience with Blonde Lebanese hashish.
Opiates are a very risky way of altering one's conscience. So is tobacco. Alcohol can also be extremely risky.
Alcohol is risky, really? Altering your mind with tobacco? No kidding?
You can alter your conscience by diving along a coral reef or immersing yourself in another culture and language.
You can alter your conscience by being a 14-year old boy who has his first experience with Blonde Lebanese hashish.
Opiates are a very risky way of altering one's conscience. So is tobacco. Alcohol can also be extremely risky.
Alcohol is risky, really? Altering your mind with tobacco? No kidding?
I think what he meant was altering your consciousness with alcohol, opiates, tobacco and hashish at the same time is risky. Come on people, be selective.
I think you alter your consciousness, not your conscience.
westslope wrote:
You can alter your conscience by diving along a coral reef or immersing yourself in another culture and language.
You can alter your conscience by being a 14-year old boy who has his first experience with Blonde Lebanese hashish.
Opiates are a very risky way of altering one's conscience. So is tobacco. Alcohol can also be extremely risky.
westslope wrote:
You can alter your conscience by diving along a coral reef or immersing yourself in another culture and language.
You can alter your conscience by being a 14-year old boy who has his first experience with Blonde Lebanese hashish.
Opiates are a very risky way of altering one's conscience. So is tobacco. Alcohol can also be extremely risky.
westslope wrote:
You can alter your conscience by diving along a coral reef or immersing yourself in another culture and language.
You can alter your conscience by being a 14-year old boy who has his first experience with Blonde Lebanese hashish.
Opiates are a very risky way of altering one's conscience. So is tobacco. Alcohol can also be extremely risky.
Alcohol is risky, really? Altering your mind with tobacco? No kidding?
You can alter your conscience by diving along a coral reef or immersing yourself in another culture and language.
You can alter your conscience by being a 14-year old boy who has his first experience with Blonde Lebanese hashish.
Opiates are a very risky way of altering one's conscience. So is tobacco. Alcohol can also be extremely risky.
Alcohol is risky, really? Altering your mind with tobacco? No kidding?
Mes chéris !!!
RazzCat wrote:
Nice find, thanks.
Phill Brown is a little more forthcoming. Brown engineered Spirit of Eden and recalls an "endlessly blacked-out studio, an oil projector in the control room, strobe lighting and five 24-track tape-machines synced together. Twelve hours a day in the dark listening to the same six songs for eight months became pretty intense. There was very little communication with musicians who came in to play. They were led to a studio in darkness and a track would be played down the headphones."
This track moves me so much it often brings me close to tears. It sends shivers. It is, in my view, a masterpiece.
Interesting read:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/sep/13/talk-talk-mark-hollis
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/sep/13/talk-talk-mark-hollis
Nice find, thanks.
Phill Brown is a little more forthcoming. Brown engineered Spirit of Eden and recalls an "endlessly blacked-out studio, an oil projector in the control room, strobe lighting and five 24-track tape-machines synced together. Twelve hours a day in the dark listening to the same six songs for eight months became pretty intense. There was very little communication with musicians who came in to play. They were led to a studio in darkness and a track would be played down the headphones."
This track moves me so much it often brings me close to tears. It sends shivers. It is, in my view, a masterpiece.
Interesting read:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/sep/13/talk-talk-mark-hollis
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/sep/13/talk-talk-mark-hollis
westslope wrote:
me too!!
I love the CD. Strongly recommend it.
me too!!
One of my favorite records to listen to the old fashioned way....on a turntable!
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Could it be classified in post-rock?
This is such a powerful album to sit down and listen moderate to loud straight through. You will be well rewarded. Altered consciousness optional! 
Tippster wrote:
Who's talking about Opiates? ......
Here are the first part of the lyrics pasted:
Who's talking about Opiates? ......
Here are the first part of the lyrics pasted:
Hear it in my spirit
I've seen heroin for myself
On the street so young, laying wasted
Enough, ain't it enough, crippled world
I just can't bring myself to see it starting
Tippster wrote:
... One of the few traits nearly all cultures globally share is that they find a way to alter their conscience.
I've observed that this only requires a certain amount of rationalization.
... One of the few traits nearly all cultures globally share is that they find a way to alter their conscience.
I've observed that this only requires a certain amount of rationalization.
westslope wrote:
Who's talking about Opiates? Some of the greatest music ever written, including the Jazz age (hell, even Classical) was written under the influence of drugs, be it Alcohol, Laudanum, Marijuana, or psychedelics. One of the few traits nearly all cultures globally share is that they find a way to alter their conscience.
Boiled down to a cliché, the lyrics contain an anti-drug message. Contrary to the received wisdom, there is an anti-drug message in lots of popular music. Steven Wilson's material, for example.
Besides the better music always sounds best when the listener is in a clear unaltered state of mind. 100% straight if you prefer.
Junk is crushing. Thankfully I never liked opiates.
Besides the better music always sounds best when the listener is in a clear unaltered state of mind. 100% straight if you prefer.
Junk is crushing. Thankfully I never liked opiates.
Who's talking about Opiates? Some of the greatest music ever written, including the Jazz age (hell, even Classical) was written under the influence of drugs, be it Alcohol, Laudanum, Marijuana, or psychedelics. One of the few traits nearly all cultures globally share is that they find a way to alter their conscience.
Dieses Album stand 1988 einsam da. Weil es so zeitlos gut ist.