Well if you like American traditional foreign policy then you will be pleased, we are going to be guaranteed at least another 8 years of staying the course but with even more intensity: Eh, why not? It has been working magnificently.
Good stuff; this part gives a good bottom line synopsis for those that don't want to read all of that:
Needless to say, bombing wont stop them; it will just make more of them.
Ironically, what can stop them is the Assad government and the ground forces of its Hezbollah and the Iranian Republican Guard allies. Its time to let them settle an ancient quarrel that has never been any of America’s business anyway.
But Imperial Washington is so caught up in its myths, lies and hegemonic stupidity that it can not see the obvious.
And that is why a quarter century after the cold war ended peace still hasn’t been given a chance and the reason that horrific events like last week’s barbarism in Paris still keep happening.
Note: Several commenters suggested Tamerlan and Dzhokar Tsarnaev, who committed the Boston Marathon bombing in 2013, were refugees. Strictly speaking, they were the children of asylees. As Bloomberg Newsexplained the two were given “derivative asylum status” and didn’t come through the refugee admissions program. Apparently the legal distinction is too fine a point for some readers. So be it, but they should nevertheless keep in mind that the brothers were two people out around 1.8 million people who were granted refugee or asylee status between 1995 and 2013.
This is interesting and I assume "we" went to school on this case. We had a pretty solid feeling that Tamerlan was radicalized but we didn't act on it. Not sure what else can be done but I'll bet some more industrial strength warrants are being issued right now if there are others like him that we're watching.
In reaction to the terrorist murders in Paris on Friday, Republican presidential hopefuls including Rand Paul (say it ain't so, Rand) are demanding that no refugees be admitted to the United States. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex) claimed that letting in Syrian refugees would be a "roll of the dice." Reality TV billionaire blowhard Donald Trump declared that the refugees could be "one of the great Trojan horses." Politicoreportsthat at least ten Republican governors are vowing to keep out of their states any of the 10,000 or so Syrian refugees that could be admitted to the U.S. next year. Just how the governors think they have the authority to prevent people who are legally in this country from going where they want is not at all clear.
So what does history say about the dangers posed by refugees? Over at the Niskanen Center, David Bier who heads up the immigration policy department provides Six Reasons to Welcome Syrian Refugees After Paris. Number 2 is most relevant to the fearmongering Republicans pols:
2. U.S. refugees don’t become terrorists: The history of the U.S. refugee program demonstrates that the lengthy and extensive vetting that all refugees must undergo is an effective deterrent for terrorists. Since 1980, the U.S. has invited in millions of refugees, including hundreds of thousands from the Middle East. Not one has committed an act of terrorism in the U.S. Traditional law enforcement and security screening processes have a proven record of handling the threat from terrorist posing as refugees.
Demagoguery is the practice of a politician to gain power and popularity by arousing the emotions, passions, and prejudices of the people. For shame!
Note: Several commenters suggested Tamerlan and Dzhokar Tsarnaev, who committed the Boston Marathon bombing in 2013, were refugees. Strictly speaking, they were the children of asylees. As Bloomberg Newsexplained the two were given “derivative asylum status” and didn’t come through the refugee admissions program. Apparently the legal distinction is too fine a point for some readers. So be it, but they should nevertheless keep in mind that the brothers were two people out around 1.8 million people who were granted refugee or asylee status between 1995 and 2013.
I was trading a lot of metal before the first gulf war and that was the first conflict in history that didn't jack up metal prices.I guess it's a different kind of war nowadays.
My first reaction was anger, but the more I think about it, I am just truly concerned. This is a soccer stadium full of mainstream Turkish citizens; Turkey, the supposed secular ally of the west:
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Nov 16, 2015 - 10:38am
sirdroseph wrote:
Could you imagine if they shifted their funding efforts to something other than war, how much the world would change for the better? No money indeed. Telling that the neo cons have instantly raised their rhetoric for more bombing and troops on the ground, it is almost as if ISIS and the neo cons were working together......
but it's the only way to fund the war machine. how else can it be done?
Could you imagine if they shifted their funding efforts to something other than war, how much the world would change for the better? No money indeed. Telling that the neo cons have instantly raised their rhetoric for more bombing and troops on the ground, it is almost as if ISIS and the neo cons were working together......
It’s already been heavily reported how badly the first class of New Syrian Forces (NSF), also known as Division 30, did after being trained by the US and sent into Syria. There were 54 of them to start, and last week Centcom conceded there were only “four or five left.” This may still look like a runaway success compared to the second class.
A statement from al-Qaeda’s Syria branch said the group’s membership had agreed to give them everything in return for “safe passage,” and that the leader of the second class, Anas Ibrahim Obeid, plans to issue a statement repudiating the US training strategy.
Obeid told al-Qaeda he “tricked” the US coalition because he wanted their weapons. Ironically he would’ve been one of the top ranked NSF forces left, after Lt. Col. Mohammad al-Dhaher resigned this weekend, complained the program was “not serious.”
The latest loss speaks volumes about the state of US vetting of its “pro-US” rebels, at a time when reports suggest they intend to dramatically lower those vetting requirements in the future for the sake of faster arming of rebel factions.
The very best thing the US could do in terms of foreign policy is to get the fuck out of the Middle East completely.