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Posted: Dec 25, 2020 - 4:46am

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Not taking away from the larger point, but it is misleading when people are saying these items are part of the $900 billion Covid relief package (“What does all this have to do with the Virus?”) The Covid relief package was rolled into a much larger appropriations act, the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2021. This omnibus is the budget for the remainder of the fiscal year ending September 30. If Trump vetoes this act and the veto is not overridden, there are no appropriations and the government shuts down. 
 
Sounds like kidnappers giving their demands.
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Posted: Dec 25, 2020 - 4:44am

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Posted: Dec 25, 2020 - 4:39am

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Posted: Dec 24, 2020 - 1:22pm

 steeler wrote:
Not taking away from the larger point, but it is misleading ...
 
Surely not on purpose?
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Posted: Dec 24, 2020 - 8:47am

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you get the idea...
 
I certainly do, but apparently not all of us get it.{#Wink}
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Posted: Dec 24, 2020 - 8:27am



you get the idea...
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Posted: Dec 24, 2020 - 8:07am



 Red_Dragon wrote:


 steeler wrote:


Yes, but in this case it is not like the COVID relief and the other appropriations are apples and oranges. They all are appropriations. A budget act always is an omnibus — even when confined to only appropriations.




 
The omnibus thing is what I object to.

 

The appropriations necessary for the entire government make for a huge act, but it usually would not make sense to break them down into mini-appropriation bills. It is when they insert measures that have nothing to do with appropriations that it veers off course.
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Posted: Dec 24, 2020 - 7:14am



 steeler wrote:


Yes, but in this case it is not like the COVID relief and the other appropriations are apples and oranges. They all are appropriations. A budget act always is an omnibus — even when confined to only appropriations.




 
The omnibus thing is what I object to.

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Posted: Dec 24, 2020 - 7:10am

 Red_Dragon wrote:


 steeler wrote:


Not taking away from the larger point, but it is misleading when people are saying these items are part of the $900 billion Covid relief package (“What does all this have to do with the Virus?”) The Covid relief package was rolled into a much larger appropriations act, the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2021. This omnibus is the budget for the remainder of the fiscal year ending September 30. If Trump vetoes this act and the veto is not overridden, there are no appropriations and the government shuts down. 
 

This something that needs to change. The practice of rolling multiple bills/appropriations into one is a fundamental problem.
 
The mo-fo is burning the house down after he has salted the battlefield. The public's attention span may be limited now, and the outrage from these latest actions tolerable, but this despicable sub-human will go down as the very worst POTUS, ever.  Ever!
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Posted: Dec 24, 2020 - 7:10am



 Red_Dragon wrote:


 steeler wrote:


Not taking away from the larger point, but it is misleading when people are saying these items are part of the $900 billion Covid relief package (“What does all this have to do with the Virus?”) The Covid relief package was rolled into a much larger appropriations act, the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2021. This omnibus is the budget for the remainder of the fiscal year ending September 30. If Trump vetoes this act and the veto is not overridden, there are no appropriations and the government shuts down. 
 

This something that needs to change. The practice of rolling multiple bills/appropriations into one is a fundamental problem.
 
Yes, but in this case it is not like the COVID relief and the other appropriations are apples and oranges. They all are appropriations. A budget act always is an omnibus — even when confined to only appropriations.




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Posted: Dec 24, 2020 - 6:56am



 steeler wrote:


Not taking away from the larger point, but it is misleading when people are saying these items are part of the $900 billion Covid relief package (“What does all this have to do with the Virus?”) The Covid relief package was rolled into a much larger appropriations act, the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2021. This omnibus is the budget for the remainder of the fiscal year ending September 30. If Trump vetoes this act and the veto is not overridden, there are no appropriations and the government shuts down. 
 

This something that needs to change. The practice of rolling multiple bills/appropriations into one is a fundamental problem.
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Posted: Dec 24, 2020 - 6:45am



 sirdroseph wrote:
 

Not taking away from the larger point, but it is misleading when people are saying these items are part of the $900 billion Covid relief package (“What does all this have to do with the Virus?”) The Covid relief package was rolled into a much larger appropriations act, the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2021. This omnibus is the budget for the remainder of the fiscal year ending September 30. If Trump vetoes this act and the veto is not overridden, there are no appropriations and the government shuts down. 
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Posted: Dec 24, 2020 - 6:19am

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I'm not in favor of any government agency giving raises, but that amount of money is likely for staffers as a cost of living adjustment for people not making much money working in the House. 

What shocks me  is while millions are losing jobs and businesses state and local government employees and teachers are being paid even for not working....In NJ, local government staff are being paid to stay home with their kids and not required to work at all.  A family member is an aide at a local elementary school, and she's being paid to do nothing during remote learning.   Nobody will address it, because it's their friends and family (and themselves) who would miss out.  The lack of integrity will eventually cause things to collapse.
 
Yep, the major distraction that is Trump will be gone soon, but this remains.  Hopefully this bill will finally wake people up.
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Posted: Dec 24, 2020 - 5:28am



 sirdroseph wrote:
 

I'm not in favor of any government agency giving raises, but that amount of money is likely for staffers as a cost of living adjustment for people not making much money working in the House. 

What shocks me  is while millions are losing jobs and businesses state and local government employees and teachers are being paid even for not working....In NJ, local government staff are being paid to stay home with their kids and not required to work at all.  A family member is an aide at a local elementary school, and she's being paid to do nothing during remote learning.   Nobody will address it, because it's their friends and family (and themselves) who would miss out.  The lack of integrity will eventually cause things to collapse.
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