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samiyam
Location: Moving North
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Oct 11, 2008 - 8:47pm |
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As H. Rap Brown once succinctly put it... "Burn, Baby, Burn!"
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zipper
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Oct 11, 2008 - 8:32pm |
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Xeric
Location: Montana Gender:
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Oct 11, 2008 - 8:18pm |
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woozurbuddy wrote: Ain't it, though!
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kurtster
Location: where fear is not a virtue Gender:
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Oct 11, 2008 - 7:35pm |
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nuggler wrote: There is no doubt in my mind that McCain is at heart a good person but there's a reality we have to concider. Just because the NeoCon have prudently gone underground does not mean they're no longer active. NeoCon & the 666x3=PNAC is power politics on a global scale never before witnessed in history & McCain is in the thick of it now. He has no choice & I fear his own humanity is consequently on the line. This NeoCon grab for power at any cost is what I resist & what I try to spotlight at every opportunity. With all due respect, people supporting this old-world power surge are not consciously evil but the consequences of their support have certainly had evil consequences of robbing the soul of its vast unconscious treasures by opening the psyche up to accepting the brutalization of another human being as being sound practice in this power play. As I said, those days should have been long gone even as I hear people here at RP speaking in support of torture & the War State. Yes. I believe from the depths of my being that any conscious, courageous & conscientious human being should resist this downward turn with every fiber of their being & those that support it are at the very least misguided. I see very few here standing against this 21 st century brutalization of humanity & I highly commend HippieChick who openly makes her stand even as a fool like Bokey calls her evil for doing so. Idiot ! It is an interesting phenomenon that I've observed here that astute posters such as yourself & OV choose to single her out when others here are very obviously & calculatingly vicious. I'd like to ask you if by & large you consider my posts & journals voicing my opinons to be disrespectful in the way you outline above but my experience in the past with you is that you very conspicuously refuse to answer my honest replies, which I see as deliberate disrespect on your part. Therefore I expect no reply. So are you refering to the Old World aristocracy, the Rothschilds, Krupps and the Hapsburgs and the like other wise known as The Illuminati and all it entails ?
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Oct 11, 2008 - 7:17pm |
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zipper wrote:the Obama ten
Oh, so this is taking the gloves off. Overblown, over-stated muckraking. Sort of disappointing, but I guess it makes you feel better. There are at least two ways to interpret all of this crap. And there is a lot more to the Keating Five than is presented there. But, what the hell, it's a crap shoot whoever you decide to vote for. You're taking a big risk either way and the voter has to decide which risk has the higher chance for disaster. In that respect I would pick the Palin/McCain ticket as being the most risky. To do anything in his administration McCain will have to rely on Republicans who know openly question his ability to lead and even hate his guts. In the event, God forbid, that he passes on in office the country would be delivered into the hands of the Alaskan Governor who I am confident would be either a puppet or a disaster. Poor yourself a glass of Merlot and enjoy the ride.
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zipper
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Oct 11, 2008 - 6:38pm |
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bokey
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Sep 30, 2008 - 1:38pm |
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romeotuma wrote:
This is really disgusting. . . you are projecting your own nastiness onto someone else— a woman who has never said this sort of mean-spirited garbage to you. . . you don't quote any specific statements she has made; you just excoriate her with insults. . .
you should be ashamed of yourself as a man, saying this sort of stuff to a woman. . .
and if you can't handle the heat in the political forums, get out of the kitchen. . .
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Manbird
Location: La Villa Toscana Gender:
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Sep 30, 2008 - 12:18pm |
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nuggler wrote: Oh, you're just sore because I've never swooned over any of yours.
You sure are one good looking schizophrenic.
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nuggler
Location: RU Sirius ? Gender:
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Sep 30, 2008 - 12:05pm |
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manbirdexperiment wrote: "I... regret having read... nuggler's posts... ... Rosebud..."
Oh, you're just sore because I've never swooned over any of yours.
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samiyam
Location: Moving North
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Sep 30, 2008 - 11:22am |
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dionysius wrote:The exact name of our cutest kitten! Now who doesn't like cuddly kittens? Aside from Exo, I mean. It depends on the sauce... (can I get it on a stick?)
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samiyam
Location: Moving North
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Sep 30, 2008 - 11:20am |
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phineas wrote:You're so cute when you're trying to be valiant! Prints?? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On the more serious side, I'm wondering whether this is similar to the report filed by the American War College about the Israeli Army which stated that the men had to be trained to overcome their innate reflex to protect the women in their squads and that until they were properly trained they would actually endanger the mission they were on in order to protect the female members of their teams. It's an instinct... Fortunately for me, my mother beat it out of me...
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dionysius
Location: The People's Republic of Austin Gender:
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Sep 30, 2008 - 11:18am |
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manbirdexperiment wrote: "I... regret having read... nuggler's posts... ... Rosebud..."
The exact name of our cutest kitten! Now who doesn't like cuddly kittens? Aside from Exo, I mean.
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phineas
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Sep 30, 2008 - 11:14am |
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romeotuma wrote:
This is really disgusting... you are projecting your own nastiness onto someone else— a woman who has never said this sort of mean-spirited garbage to you... you don't quote any specific statements she has made; you just excoriate her with insults...
you should be ashamed of yourself as a man, saying this sort of stuff to a woman...
and if you can't handle the heat in the political forums, get out of the kitchen...
You're so cute when you're trying to be valiant!
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nuggler
Location: RU Sirius ? Gender:
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Sep 30, 2008 - 11:13am |
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Lazy8 wrote: nuggler wrote: There is no doubt in my mind that McCain is at heart a good person but there's a reality we have to concider. Just because the NeoCon have prudently gone underground does not mean they're no longer active. NeoCon & the 666x3=PNAC is power politics on a global scale never before witnessed in history & McCain is in the thick of it now. He has no choice & I fear his own humanity is consequently on the line. This NeoCon grab for power at any cost is what I resist & what I try to spotlight at every opportunity. With all due respect, people supporting this old-world power surge are not consciously evil but the consequences of their support have certainly had evil consequences of robbing the soul of its vast unconscious treasures by opening the psyche up to accepting the brutalization of another human being as being sound practice in this power play. As I said, those days should have been long gone even as I hear people here at RP speaking in support of torture & the War State. Yes. I believe from the depths of my being that any conscious, courageous & conscientious human being should resist this downward turn with every fiber of their being & those that support it are at the very least misguided. I see very few here standing against this 21 st century brutalization of humanity & I highly commend HippieChick who openly makes her stand even as a fool like Bokey calls her evil for doing so. Idiot ! It is an interesting phenomenon that I've observed here that astute posters such as yourself & OV choose to single her out when others here are very obviously & calculatingly vicious. I'd like to ask you if by & large you consider my posts & journals voicing my opinons to be disrespectful in the way you outline above but my experience in the past with you is that you very conspicuously refuse to answer my honest replies, which I see as deliberate disrespect on your part. Therefore I expect no reply. I generally ignore what you post like I tune past static on the radio dial. I engage when I think it's going to be worth my time and the time of people reading—I have other things to do, and a real life to live. I don't want to look back on it from the end and regret how I spent it. As for your question: go re-read your first paragraph. I think you've answered that yourself, and I rest my case. It was a serious question & your answer was a sidestep. So what's new? Well, you can't put your nuts on the line & give an honest answer to an honest question. Bear in mind that there are more than just a few posts & journals stating my thoughts & beliefs in true liberalism & calling an idiot an idiot when he acts like one is hardly an act of disrespect in my eyes. But I waste my time.
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samiyam
Location: Moving North
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Sep 30, 2008 - 11:00am |
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Lazy8 wrote: nuggler wrote:Well then, don't try to sell us another FOUR MORE YEARS. What are you people thinking, with all due respect....?
Y'know what? They are due respect. Seriously. Barack Obama, and Democrats in general, love their country. I think, if pressed, most non-lefties here would acknowledge that. But John McCain and Republicans love their country too, just as I do. If you can't acknowledge that and can't drop this the-other-guy-is-evil pose you are part of the problem. There are people here I respect, and a few more I'd like to respect. But by denying their opponents' basic humanity they are perpetuating a division that will prevent us even looking at the big picture, at the real peril we are in. Like two camps in a lifeboat flinging buckets of water at each other, ignoring the rising water in the boat. I'll go farther than saying they aren't helping—I'll say they are a big part of why the boat is sinking. That respect isn't being granted here. Some of y'all will use any stick to beat your opponent regardless of what you have to tear down to get that stick or what you get on your hands while you swing it. You justify it by saying these people have got to be stopped!Think for a moment what a negative thing that is to order your life around. Then think about the damage you do when you complete the sentence: by any means necessary. The means determine the ends, folks. One day this election will be over. Can the side that squeaks out a victory really govern if they have to fight dirty to win? The country is too narrowly divided to roll over bitter opposition. But really, this is a utilitarian digression; can you really accomplish anything positive with hate? Looks like I picked the wrong day to give up heroin. Seriously... Thank you for this posting. I recognize myself here and I'm somewhat chagrined to note that I haven't been as tolerant as I try to be. But I will continue to find myself wondering just how much of a joke this actually started out to be. I usually get the joke, but when it's on a computer, there's not much in the way of winks and nods to go on so emoticons might be necessary to convey the "tongue in cheek" nature of a posting. I've stated before that both sides of this current debate seem to have lost their ability to compromise and America is worse for this. It is our unique ability to compromise which has allowed us to become the strongest country in the world. We need to learn again what our fathers knew.
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Manbird
Location: La Villa Toscana Gender:
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Sep 30, 2008 - 10:42am |
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Lazy8 wrote: nuggler wrote: There is no doubt in my mind that McCain is at heart a good person but there's a reality we have to concider. Just because the NeoCon have prudently gone underground does not mean they're no longer active. NeoCon & the 666x3=PNAC is power politics on a global scale never before witnessed in history & McCain is in the thick of it now. He has no choice & I fear his own humanity is consequently on the line. This NeoCon grab for power at any cost is what I resist & what I try to spotlight at every opportunity. With all due respect, people supporting this old-world power surge are not consciously evil but the consequences of their support have certainly had evil consequences of robbing the soul of its vast unconscious treasures by opening the psyche up to accepting the brutalization of another human being as being sound practice in this power play. As I said, those days should have been long gone even as I hear people here at RP speaking in support of torture & the War State. Yes. I believe from the depths of my being that any conscious, courageous & conscientious human being should resist this downward turn with every fiber of their being & those that support it are at the very least misguided. I see very few here standing against this 21 st century brutalization of humanity & I highly commend HippieChick who openly makes her stand even as a fool like Bokey calls her evil for doing so. Idiot ! It is an interesting phenomenon that I've observed here that astute posters such as yourself & OV choose to single her out when others here are very obviously & calculatingly vicious. I'd like to ask you if by & large you consider my posts & journals voicing my opinons to be disrespectful in the way you outline above but my experience in the past with you is that you very conspicuously refuse to answer my honest replies, which I see as deliberate disrespect on your part. Therefore I expect no reply. I generally ignore what you post like I tune past static on the radio dial. I engage when I think it's going to be worth my time and the time of people reading—I have other things to do, and a real life to live. I don't want to look back on it from the end and regret how I spent it. As for your question: go re-read your first paragraph. I think you've answered that yourself, and I rest my case. "I... regret having read... nuggler's posts... ... Rosebud..."
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Lazy8
Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana Gender:
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Sep 30, 2008 - 10:21am |
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nuggler wrote: There is no doubt in my mind that McCain is at heart a good person but there's a reality we have to concider. Just because the NeoCon have prudently gone underground does not mean they're no longer active. NeoCon & the 666x3=PNAC is power politics on a global scale never before witnessed in history & McCain is in the thick of it now. He has no choice & I fear his own humanity is consequently on the line. This NeoCon grab for power at any cost is what I resist & what I try to spotlight at every opportunity. With all due respect, people supporting this old-world power surge are not consciously evil but the consequences of their support have certainly had evil consequences of robbing the soul of its vast unconscious treasures by opening the psyche up to accepting the brutalization of another human being as being sound practice in this power play. As I said, those days should have been long gone even as I hear people here at RP speaking in support of torture & the War State. Yes. I believe from the depths of my being that any conscious, courageous & conscientious human being should resist this downward turn with every fiber of their being & those that support it are at the very least misguided. I see very few here standing against this 21 st century brutalization of humanity & I highly commend HippieChick who openly makes her stand even as a fool like Bokey calls her evil for doing so. Idiot ! It is an interesting phenomenon that I've observed here that astute posters such as yourself & OV choose to single her out when others here are very obviously & calculatingly vicious. I'd like to ask you if by & large you consider my posts & journals voicing my opinons to be disrespectful in the way you outline above but my experience in the past with you is that you very conspicuously refuse to answer my honest replies, which I see as deliberate disrespect on your part. Therefore I expect no reply. I generally ignore what you post like I tune past static on the radio dial. I engage when I think it's going to be worth my time and the time of people reading—I have other things to do, and a real life to live. I don't want to look back on it from the end and regret how I spent it. As for your question: go re-read your first paragraph. I think you've answered that yourself, and I rest my case.
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nuggler
Location: RU Sirius ? Gender:
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Sep 30, 2008 - 9:34am |
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Lazy8 wrote: nuggler wrote:Well then, don't try to sell us another FOUR MORE YEARS. What are you people thinking, with all due respect....?
Y'know what? They are due respect. Seriously. Barack Obama, and Democrats in general, love their country. I think, if pressed, most non-lefties here would acknowledge that. But John McCain and Republicans love their country too, just as I do. If you can't acknowledge that and can't drop this the-other-guy-is-evil pose you are part of the problem. There are people here I respect, and a few more I'd like to respect. But by denying their opponents' basic humanity they are perpetuating a division that will prevent us even looking at the big picture, at the real peril we are in. Like two camps in a lifeboat flinging buckets of water at each other, ignoring the rising water in the boat. I'll go farther than saying they aren't helping—I'll say they are a big part of why the boat is sinking. That respect isn't being granted here. Some of y'all will use any stick to beat your opponent regardless of what you have to tear down to get that stick or what you get on your hands while you swing it. You justify it by saying these people have got to be stopped!Think for a moment what a negative thing that is to order your life around. Then think about the damage you do when you complete the sentence: by any means necessary. The means determine the ends, folks. One day this election will be over. Can the side that squeaks out a victory really govern if they have to fight dirty to win? The country is too narrowly divided to roll over bitter opposition. But really, this is a utilitarian digression; can you really accomplish anything positive with hate? There is no doubt in my mind that McCain is at heart a good person but there's a reality we have to concider. Just because the NeoCon have prudently gone underground does not mean they're no longer active. NeoCon & the 666x3=PNAC is power politics on a global scale never before witnessed in history & McCain is in the thick of it now. He has no choice & I fear his own humanity is consequently on the line. This NeoCon grab for power at any cost is what I resist & what I try to spotlight at every opportunity. With all due respect, people supporting this old-world power surge are not consciously evil but the consequences of their support have certainly had evil consequences of robbing the soul of its vast unconscious treasures by opening the psyche up to accepting the brutalization of another human being as being sound practice in this power play. As I said, those days should have been long gone even as I hear people here at RP speaking in support of torture & the War State. Yes. I believe from the depths of my being that any conscious, courageous & conscientious human being should resist this downward turn with every fiber of their being & those that support it are at the very least misguided. I see very few here standing against this 21 st century brutalization of humanity & I highly commend HippieChick who openly makes her stand even as a fool like Bokey calls her evil for doing so. Idiot ! It is an interesting phenomenon that I've observed here that astute posters such as yourself & OV choose to single her out when others here are very obviously & calculatingly vicious. I'd like to ask you if by & large you consider my posts & journals voicing my opinons to be disrespectful in the way you outline above but my experience in the past with you is that you very conspicuously refuse to answer my honest replies, which I see as deliberate disrespect on your part. Therefore I expect no reply.
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cc_rider
Location: Bastrop Gender:
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Sep 30, 2008 - 8:34am |
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Lazy8 wrote:Y'know what? They are due respect. Seriously.
Barack Obama, and Democrats in general, love their country. I think, if pressed, most non-lefties here would acknowledge that. But John McCain and Republicans love their country too, just as I do. If you can't acknowledge that and can't drop this the-other-guy-is-evil pose you are part of the problem.
There are people here I respect, and a few more I'd like to respect. But by denying their opponents' basic humanity they are perpetuating a division that will prevent us even looking at the big picture, at the real peril we are in. Like two camps in a lifeboat flinging buckets of water at each other, ignoring the rising water in the boat. I'll go farther than saying they aren't helping—I'll say they are a big part of why the boat is sinking.
That respect isn't being granted here. Some of y'all will use any stick to beat your opponent regardless of what you have to tear down to get that stick or what you get on your hands while you swing it. You justify it by saying these people have got to be stopped!
Think for a moment what a negative thing that is to order your life around. Then think about the damage you do when you complete the sentence: by any means necessary. The means determine the ends, folks. One day this election will be over. Can the side that squeaks out a victory really govern if they have to fight dirty to win? The country is too narrowly divided to roll over bitter opposition. But really, this is a utilitarian digression; can you really accomplish anything positive with hate?
Wow. Yesterday I had decided I'd avoid this thread, but it's like a train wreck, you just want a little peek. And what do I find? A really good message. Thank you. ———- Now, putting the shoe in the other mouth, your exact words apply to something far more important than our little tempest. That is, the willingness, eagerness in fact, for some people in our government to sell out our fundamental American freedoms for 'victory', whatever that means. 'By any means necessary' sets the tone for some extremely un-American actions perpetrated by our 'leaders'. I can overlook 'pre-emptive war' for the moment. I can overlook 'enhanced interrogation' for the moment. But the warrantless wiretapping and searches, the indefinite imprisonment of people without the barest legal safeguards, these things are not what America stands for. The concept of habeus corpus goes back to, what, the Magna Carta? AD 1215, for pete's sake! Yes, it CAN be suspended, and was, by Abraham Lincoln during the single most disastrous time in American History. THIS is not the Civil War, no matter what the fear-mongers say. Our enemies are still HUMANS. This country was founded on the concept that HUMANS are entitled to certain rights and freedoms. Rights and freedoms found virtually no where else in the world. Or I should say, USED TO BE found no where else. We have sacrificed our principles and our dignity, out of fear, hatred, whatever excuse you want to use, it's still just an excuse. Until we realize our enemies' basic humanity, there can be no peace. c.
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nuggler
Location: RU Sirius ? Gender:
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Sep 30, 2008 - 8:12am |
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bokey wrote: Yeah, I'm a bad guy.
Own it, buddy. I've had to even when I felt I wasn't deserving. Many times.
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