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Posted: Apr 1, 2025 - 3:38pm

So to defend the disappearing of regime critics, JD Vance came out and lied that a Biden immigration judge in 2019 (before Biden was in office) had determined that the person Trump just sent to a gulag was an MS-13 member.

All of that is false. Every single bit of it is false. He's lying.

Which just, again, makes the point that shouldn't even need to be made: we have process protections precisely BECAUSE we can't have a system where your guilt or innocence is determined by the personal opinion of one corrupt couch-fucker.

But honestly, I really need some evidence that there's even a point in explaining this to people. If you REALLY, as an adult human, need it explained to you why the U.S. government should not be able to just disappear people without any process or any recourse, you're just a fascist and are not worth engaging with.

~Adam Bates
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Posted: Mar 29, 2025 - 12:11pm

 kcar wrote:

One puzzling thing about Kurt's...concern about illegal immigrants is that there aren't many in OH:



The states in the lawsuit also argue
they are being deprived of federal funding that could be provided to them based on their population, if the census data was changed. The suit cites Pew Research Center data from 2021, which found that Ohio’s illegal immigrant population makes up 1% of the total population.


He's in it for America!  Rule of law!  Right and wrong.

It's not about him.

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Posted: Mar 29, 2025 - 11:54am

One puzzling thing about Kurt's...concern about illegal immigrants is that there aren't many in OH:



The states in the lawsuit also argue
they are being deprived of federal funding that could be provided to them based on their population, if the census data was changed. The suit cites Pew Research Center data from 2021, which found that Ohio’s illegal immigrant population makes up 1% of the total population.

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Posted: Mar 29, 2025 - 7:36am

 kurtster wrote:



I posted this a little while ago:




 islander wrote:



Again, a great demonstration of your limited thinking. I know you aren't much for facts or learning stuff, but for anyone interested, Chloe East has a very well done study of the effects of deportations during the Obama admin (so it's recent and relevent). For anyone who can think rationally for a second the findings are pretty obvious. Basically - Jobs and workers aren't fungible. If you get rid of an immigrant worker, a native worker doesn't necessarily step into that job. Immigrants do a lot of jobs that natives won't/can't, so the jobs go unfilled. Immigrants also spend money that they make from their jobs. So if the job goes away due to no other worker, then the overall economy gets smaller from less demand for groceries/haircuts/general stuff that everyone buys.

Immigrants are a net positive for our society. Kicking out immigrants will harm regular citizens as well.

https://www.chloeneast.com/uploads/8/9/9/7/8997263/ehlmv_draft_7-20.pdf


We examine the labor market effects of Secure Communities (SC)–an immigration
enforcement policy which led to over 454,000 deportations between 2008-2014. Using
a difference-in-differences model that takes advantage of the staggered rollout of SC,
we find that SC significantly decreased the employment share of likely undocumented
male immigrants. The policy also led to a decrease in the employment rate of citizens. The employment effects on citizens are concentrated among males working in
medium-skilled occupations, particularly in sectors that traditionally rely on likely undocumented workers. The results are consistent with complementarities in production
between low-skilled immigrants and higher-skilled citizens.





So if you are so broke and it bothers you, you should support more immigrants. But it's not really about the money right? It's all about the hate in your heart. If you would fix that problem, a lot of the rest of your life would be better.
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Posted: Mar 29, 2025 - 5:15am

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Fair enough.

So instead of paying $200 to support immigrants (your share of the $66B in federal spending in 2023)... you decided spending $3,000 per year (or more) on everything you buy was a worthwhile investment?

You keep hopping over the fence on why you voted for insanity....it was money....it's immigration....it was money...no immigration. Well, you go your immigration. All it cost you was a recession and the destruction of your position in the world.

You've been played. Your anger has made you stop thinking. As he notes, Bill Maher has recently been hailed by the Right for calling out woke. It's your turn, and you while you fight it... you're a member of a cult....






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Posted: Mar 28, 2025 - 9:15pm

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Sure you were promoting it otherwise why post it? Own your actions pretzel boy.
 
You're the one selling pretzels.  And I ain't buying any.  They're stale among other things.
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Posted: Mar 28, 2025 - 7:54pm

 VV wrote:

Sure you were promoting it otherwise why post it? Own your actions pretzel boy.



That would be completely out of character. Responsibility isn't his forte.
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Posted: Mar 28, 2025 - 7:42pm

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Nope.  I stated no conclusions. 

Just responding to the posted meme with the actual subject of the meme for all to read, and decide for themselves.

But I will say what I've been thinking and wanting to say for awhile in response to these memes and whatnot ...

it all reminds of this old political saw so to speak:

you get the government you deserve.  Payback's a bitch.

Now go look in the mirror.

Sure you were promoting it otherwise why post it? Own your actions pretzel boy.

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Posted: Mar 28, 2025 - 6:49pm

 R_P wrote:
 kurtster wrote:

I have a name for it. The Biden Backlash© You all are just getting the equal and opposite reaction to all that Biden did for the last 4 years.
.
is what it is.


Can you show on the doll where The Biden hurt you?
 
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Posted: Mar 28, 2025 - 3:53pm

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See, the cool thing about siding with the democtrats is that even if they lose, I'm not an asshole. You're an asshole win or lose. is what it is.


oh, snap
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Posted: Mar 28, 2025 - 3:47pm

 kurtster wrote:

I have a name for it.

The Biden Backlash©

You all are just getting the equal and opposite reaction to all that Biden did for the last 4 years.
.
is what it is.


Can you show on the doll where The Biden hurt you?
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Posted: Mar 28, 2025 - 3:46pm

 kurtster wrote:

I have a name for it.

The Biden Backlash©

You all are just getting the equal and opposite reaction to all that Biden did for the last 4 years.
.
is what it is.



See, the cool thing about siding with the democtrats is that even if they lose, I'm not an asshole. You're an asshole win or lose. is what it is.
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Posted: Mar 28, 2025 - 3:42pm

 kurtster wrote:

I have a name for it.

The Biden Backlash©

You all are just getting the equal and opposite reaction to all that Biden did for the last 4 years.
.
is what it is.





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