crockydile wrote:  Nice try Crocky. ‘Swagerring up to the cultural bar I see. It might be the most well thought observation you've made here so credit where credit's due.. ..you're off the mark though. I compared Dylan to Fine Art in general. I just happened to use a Van Gogh painting. It could have been Vermeer, Pollock or Rothko just as easily. Van Gogh worked with fire in his paint and the unease of a constantly shifting world (imho) Dylan's world is in flux too but he's not wanting off the ride, if anything he was pouring gas on the fires of change. I wouldn't have made the direct comparison you claim. Just thought I'd clarify that ..since you're just gettin started and all..

don't criticize what you can't understand ;-)

 Dalebarely wrote: 
Perhaps, but then all of those 5000 bar bands have been copying Zimmy since they started out - and still ain't got it down!  
 

the word I would use to describe this is 'pointless'

we are subjected to it only because it's Bob Dylan.

bet you could find 5000 bar bands who would hand you a self published CD with more interesting blues tracks
 

 midreaming wrote:
 
He...he just compared Bob Dylan to Van Gogh...

makes me want to clear my throat, or have a cigarette... one of the two

 a_genuine_find wrote: 
hahahhaahhhaaaaa  and I love Dylan  hahhhhaahhhhaaaaaa  still funny!

 midreaming wrote: 
Words to live by.

There are so many layers to Dylan's stuff and double the ways to appreciate it. this is proven by the fact that no one has the same explanation of what they hear in his songs. A surface view will never see the light he shines. I'll admit it's a little shadowy these days. But as long as a person flits over the surface looking for pop hooks or jingo-jango tunes they'll always be disappointed. be assured his stuff has more merit than most out there including stuff I see people giving 10's and copious deluded bananas. If a person doesn't want to look for the merit, fine. But it's a mistake to announce publically Dylan's stuff is thin. It's shallow and obvious.

only as a means of explaining how some may love this man, not directing anybody's experience -
check out Van Gogh's painting of work boots. on the surface it's not special. The color seems odd, the worn shape maybe cartoonish. It's not just of the boots that were on the floor though. The facination of the painting is in the experience of the boots, where they've been, what they've done. Pass that now and come to Van Gogh's impression of the shoes. So many layers in a simple picture. Dylan saw more of this world than most people when he was just in his 20's. He's been around the block now and seen a lot more. Wisdom suggests a person listen and learn.

I am begging you please

 jnhashmi wrote: 

Well, lets see..you got a couple of hours?

A "2" rating. A standard blues rif I've heard a million times, with lyrics like "I am the King, and you are the Queen." What am I missing? Seriously, I'm askin'...

 toterola wrote: 
16

 SweTex wrote: 
How about the Harrison-Dylan songs from George's "All Things Must Pass"? A full side if my memory serves me well.

Voice changes and all, still among the greatest of American songwriters and popular musicians.  His work will ride above every new sound, every fad, every technological marvel, for many years to come.

 On_The_Beach wrote: 
Make it 15.

He may not be the fair-haired boy who told us "A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall" anymore, but he's still making fine, relevant music. Cheers!

This reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend, when the Natural Born Killers soundtrack had come out.  We were listening to "You Belong to Me" from that soundtrack  and I mentioned that I found it interesting that Dylan was still making music, and my friend, a self-proclaimed Dylan fan, said "what, you mean this is actually Bob Dylan singing? I thought it was someone making fun of Dylan!"

Kids, Bob Dylan's voice is a perfect example of why you should never smoke!

...please give me strength to endure this torture
and thank you for the mute button

 On_The_Beach wrote: 

Sort of a Tom Waits-like growl aspect here . . .

 peekay wrote: 

Right you are. That totally slipped my mind.

 out_of_time_man wrote: 

And he co-wrote "Brownsville girl" with Sam Shepard.

It was stated on RP that this album was Dylan's first foray into co-writing songs. However, on the album Desire, he also co-wrote songs ... with Jacques Levy.

Just heard Bill say that this album is Dylan's first collaboration with another writer. He did collaborate with Jacques Levy on most of the songs on Desire, I'm pretty sure.

Bob's voice continues to "evolve" (OK, "DEvolve").
I guess I'm one of the last 14 people in North America that still likes it.  ; )

His voice sounds even worse than usual! Which I thought would be pretty impossible.

 countyman wrote: 
Bob wasn't Bob when he was BOB.