Hippiechick I dont have an email from you? You mean the post below? ok.

I admire your Obama enthuisiasm. I am not so sure about him or McCain. Either is going to inherit a deep pile of poo when they hit the White House. Which one will be better able to deal with it? I don't know that. Who has the best plan for the next eight years? I don't know that either.

If one thinks it's McCain they should go for that. Same with Obama. It's my choice. It's not up to me to convince you or anyone else of my choice by sifting thru the 10 kajillion posts here on this subject.

 owld_skipper wrote: 
Which is what made me respect him....geez, I would've voted for him last time around....but now  I really question his strength of conviction after choosing the VP candidate he did....that was pure political maneuvering to keep the old guard GOP happy, and get him elected.  And it told me very clearly that getting elected was actually more important than being president to him, or he never would've made such an irresponsible move, selecting someone so clearly unqualified at this point in her career for the job at hand.

 zipper wrote:Well, yes, that does make much more sense.  If we were addressing the question of "How long can I expect ot live?" we would be much more interested in the mean average, not the simple average. When equating the simple average of life expectancy we must figure in infant mortality and childhood deaths. As a person who is well beyond those years, those figure are no longer relevant for me, so their elimination from the equation offers me a more realistic approximation of my life expectancy. Hence the median life expectancy.

As retired individuals will have no alteration of their income levels, being that they are on a fixed income derivative of their pensions, investments or social security, these figures do not have relevance in the equation of income by those whose incomes will fluctuate with the economic conditions of the moment. By including the fixed income numbers the per annum income is kept artificially inflated, giving the false impression of a positive increase in income, rather than the actual decrease witnessed and experienced by the general population.

Thanks for pointing out the sound insight of Barack Obama.

 Curry wrote: 
Why should you? Because you responded to my email.

Obama is my man! I believe in him all the way! He is a man of huge integrity, who believes in service to his country and making the world a better place to live. He does not believe in killing.

 hippiechick wrote: 
Actually, that is not true. Mugs, for example, has said that he would rather vote Republican because he fears the Democratic record on taxation and spending. Others have intimated that they would support the Republicans because of their view how the Supreme Court should be structured and how the Constitution should be interpreted. There has also been support for continued reduction in taxation and the size of government, both policy positions that the Republican party supports. Problem is that there are far more left-leaning voices in here than right-leaning.

This thread could provide a good opportunity to challenge the lies and smears against Obama as well as examine the truth of his positions and actions. In the interests of an informed electorate, I think that is a good idea.

I also think that there should be a similar topic for McCain. The big problem there is that McCain is no longer recognizable as a Republican candidate. Especially as he spends more time positioning himself as some sort of independent running against the Republican Party and the current administration.

Hippiechick thats not the point.

The point is that if you agree with his policies then he is your man. If you dont well you have to make peace with that or vote for the other guy.

Why should I point you to something? That is for you and everyone else to find.

 Curry wrote: 
Please point me to one reason to vote for the Repub candidates.

 hippiechick wrote: 
I wouldnt say that. I havent read thru all the posts here on Obama or McCain but there are reasons to vote McCain if you agree with his policies.

As for "joining the negativity fray" your message isn't really so positive itself.

 zipper wrote: 
Obama already has a thread.

bumping for truth

zipper wrote:

ScottFromWyoming wrote:
I was sleeping.  Haven't mastered posting in my sleep yet.  ;)

Yes, I do have good things to say about McCain-Palin, and I will share them, but this is O's thread.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
In all the posts, in all the discussions, here on RP, in all these months, no one has had ONE REASON to vote for McCain. We have heard all the negativity about Obama, and discussed around every issue, but no one has given a single reason t ovote for the Republican candidates, not even Ms Z, who has decided to join the negativity fray, after complaining about everyone else.

Obama also pulled some sleight of hand when he stated that "the average American family" saw its income "go down $2,000" under George Bush. That's not correct. Census figures show average family income went down $348. As it turns out, when Obama said "average family income," he didn't mean "average," and he didn't mean "family," either. An Obama aide says he was really referring to median income – which is the midpoint – and not to the average. And Obama was talking only about "working families," not retired couples. For all families, median family income actually inched up under Bush by $272.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
 Curry wrote: 
This is a useful topic, if people stay on track, for there is truth to be told and smears and lies to be challenged. Probably should be a thread called

Truthiness Exposed About McCain, or get your TEAM here!

In the interest of fairness and balance, of course. 

(Yeah, I know, "TEAM" is lame but it's the best I could come up wih.)

 rosedraws wrote: 
Nuggs is consistent.

 rosedraws wrote: 
...though maybe not from PDH....

phineas wrote:
  that got a belly laugh.

 rosedraws wrote: 
"Hotski" is short for "PrettyDeepHotski"...

pdhski wrote:


This is awesome!  Who knew someone with a nickname like hotski could be so deep.   

nuggler wrote:

Hooboy,  you're asking for trouble now.