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Red_Dragon

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Posted: Jun 10, 2009 - 11:23am

 steeler wrote:
A shooting in the Holocaust Museum in the District.  Don't know anything other than that; could not get back in my office building downtown because it had been temporarily locked down. Just let us back in.     

 

What?  How could this have happened?  Aren't guns illegal in The District? {#Wink}
newwavegurly

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Posted: Jun 10, 2009 - 11:19am

 steeler wrote:


Yep, that's what I am hearing. Strange that they locked down other buildings.  We're on the other side of the Mall from the Holocaust Museum.
 
Perhaps it was more to allow all the personnel into the area in a timely manner to handle the situation?
steeler

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Posted: Jun 10, 2009 - 11:13am

 newwavegurly wrote:

It would seem that the guy that came in with the gun was already down, so he wasn't going to be able to shoot anyone else. He shot a security guard, and they've both been taken to the hospital. (I've got the live report on via CNN.)

 

Yep, that's what I am hearing. Strange that they locked down other buildings.  We're on the other side of the Mall from the Holocaust Museum.
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Posted: Jun 10, 2009 - 11:11am

 steeler wrote:

The Wilson Building is on lockdown until further notice pending confirmation that all suspects in the Holocaust Museum shooting have been apprehended.   Anyone may leave the building but no one other than councilmembers and the Mayor will be allowed to enter until MPD and the Federal Protective Service police secure the area.

This was what was issued.  The building is now open. 

Guess they were not concerned if we left the building and were shot on the street. {#Shifty} {#Rolleyes}

 
It would seem that the guy that came in with the gun was already down, so he wasn't going to be able to shoot anyone else. He shot a security guard, and they've both been taken to the hospital. (I've got the live report on via CNN.)
steeler

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Posted: Jun 10, 2009 - 11:06am

The Wilson Building is on lockdown until further notice pending confirmation that all suspects in the Holocaust Museum shooting have been apprehended.   Anyone may leave the building but no one other than councilmembers and the Mayor will be allowed to enter until MPD and the Federal Protective Service police secure the area.

This was what was issued.  The building is now open. 

Guess they were not concerned if we left the building and were shot on the street. {#Shifty} {#Rolleyes}


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Posted: Jun 10, 2009 - 10:58am

 steeler wrote:
A shooting in the Holocaust Museum in the District.  Don't know anything other than that; could not get back in my office building downtown because it had been temporarily locked down. Just let us back in.     

 
What building are you in? My daughter is in the Ag bldg

newwavegurly

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Posted: Jun 10, 2009 - 10:52am

 steeler wrote:
A shooting in the Holocaust Museum in the District.  Don't know anything other than that; could not get back in my office building downtown because it had been temporarily locked down. Just let us back in.     
 
Not many details to be had yet:

Police: At least 2 shot inside Holocaust Museum

steeler

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Posted: Jun 10, 2009 - 10:46am

A shooting in the Holocaust Museum in the District.  Don't know anything other than that; could not get back in my office building downtown because it had been temporarily locked down. Just let us back in.     
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Posted: Jun 2, 2009 - 1:26pm

Life can be as cruel as it can be good.I have some losses too, maybe that is why i so love the love i get.
rachlan

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Posted: Jun 2, 2009 - 12:55pm

 HazzeSwede wrote:
In the papers today; young Swedish family split up,in fear of accident.The father with older child is now missing his wife and baby!

 
wow.  
......wow.



my friend who was on the swiss air flight 10 years ago was with both her parents and her brother, her whole family.  her brother flew in from cali, her parents from mass and she was in nyc, they all flew out together from kennedy airport.   the company handling their will had a hard time tracking down the next of kin.   we friends had to clean out her rented apartment.   I guess her fathers nephew who lived in GB took care of the house in massachusetts.

HazzeSwede

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Posted: Jun 2, 2009 - 12:46pm

In the papers today; young Swedish family split up,in fear of accident.The father with older child is now missing his wife and baby!
Zep

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Posted: Jun 2, 2009 - 7:51am

 n4ku wrote:
The pilot never reported anything, as far as I can tell. All the reports were automated reports sent by the aircraft itself to the airline's automated maintenance computers.
 
In that location, there is no VHF radio coverage, only HF, and that is not constantly monitored.

Besides, in a crisis, there is the pilot's mandate: Aviate, Navigate, Communicate.

Regarding the ACARS messages, one of the failures reported was of the Inertial Reference Unit, and there is a description of an ADIRU failure on a QANTAS flight here.

rachlan

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Posted: Jun 2, 2009 - 7:42am

 n4ku wrote:

The pilot never reported anything, as far as I can tell. All the reports were automated reports sent by the aircraft itself to the airline's automated maintenance computers.
 
so nobody real has claimed this, and the polot was taken out.    I think  everyone on the plane was teleported out by aliens.  they are maybe in some kind of zoo and the airplane was left to crash on its own.

or maybe an investigation into those on board about who had extremely powerful 'friends' who wanted them dead.

or maybe an instant gas was set off that put everyone out on the plane and and and.....


that said.  this is all very sad.  I'm getting flashbacks of when my friend was killed in a plane crash about 10 years ago on swiss air.
  it took all day for us to get word that she was definitely on that plane.

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Posted: Jun 2, 2009 - 7:28am

 n4ku wrote:

The pilot never reported anything, as far as I can tell. All the reports were automated reports sent by the aircraft itself to the airline's automated maintenance computers.
 

Oh...OK.  (I usually make it about 1/2 way through those articles if that).
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Posted: Jun 2, 2009 - 7:22am

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Yeah, since I posted that yesterday, I've heard more updates, one of which was the fact that the pilot also reported electronic problems.

FSM, this is so sad! 

 
The pilot never reported anything, as far as I can tell. All the reports were automated reports sent by the aircraft itself to the airline's automated maintenance computers.

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Posted: Jun 2, 2009 - 7:20am

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what happened to this plane!
 

It's going to take them a while to figure it out and by the time they do, it won't be news anymore so we, the public, may never know.  At least, if this is indeed wreckage from that plane, they have a place to start looking for the black box, which is probably at the bottom of the ocean by now. 
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Posted: Jun 2, 2009 - 7:18am

 n4ku wrote:

According to your link, the automated system reported a loss of cabin pressure. That might have made it impossible for the pilot to do anything, including sending a Mayday.
 

Yeah, since I posted that yesterday, I've heard more updates, one of which was the fact that the pilot also reported electronic problems.

FSM, this is so sad! 
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Posted: Jun 2, 2009 - 6:54am

 kysmet wrote:
Is it strange that there's no news of the pilot making a Mayday call?  Could this have happened so fast that there wasn't even time for that?

 
According to your link, the automated system reported a loss of cabin pressure. That might have made it impossible for the pilot to do anything, including sending a Mayday.

rachlan

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Posted: Jun 2, 2009 - 6:48am

 kysmet wrote:
Is it strange that there's no news of the pilot making a Mayday call?  Could this have happened so fast that there wasn't even time for that?

 
what happened to this plane!

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Posted: Jun 2, 2009 - 6:45am

 kysmet wrote:
Is it strange that there's no news of the pilot making a Mayday call?  Could this have happened so fast that there wasn't even time for that?

 
I hate to be the alarmist, but I'm thinking a bomb was set off. 

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