I recently heard the beautiful, haunting music of Doug Saint and am craving more! I can't remember where I heard him first, but he accompanied me during a hard part of my last chemo treatment, and now I'm kind of attached. He only released four tracks just this year and his social presence is zero. Any ideas on where to learn more about him?
Wilson's new album The Harmony Codex sounded great all the way through and at the first listen. This rarely ever happens for me anymore. A solid 64 minutes. The wife and I both listened to it together and we both liked it at first listen. Nice late afternoon music. Somewhat trippy, definitely Wilson and I say that in a good way. We listened to Madman Across The Water afterwards.
It would be a nice album to listen to after Days Of Future Passed for example. Or Wish You Were Here.
Well into the whole album, the title track #7, was really nice. Melodic and musical and drew me in even farther than the previous tracks which were varied and interesting enough in their own right. Track #9 Actual Brutal Facts came on stronger. It was like Hip - Hoppy / disco-y meets Floyd. If I was to break this album into two parts, I would start out Part 2 with The Harmony Codex. It would make for a really strong stand alone album side.
I looked into the vinyl and there were too many issues with the quality of the pressings. Being new and Wilson, I went straight to the 24 / 96 AIFF / wav files and glad I did in this case.
Is this a new type of Bernie Taupin / Elton John collaboration ? Bernie wrote the lyrics and Elton wrote the music. With a prolific musician / engineer like Wilson, could AI inspired lyrics anticipate and draw unexpected / expected musical reactions out of Wilson ? I really like this song we are discussing and the music itself works without the lyrics.
Iâm thinking of Bowie using the cut-up words thrown together that he then turns into lyrics, like Burroughs and Dadaists did.
hey guys, i agree ai/si should be a tool for good and in this case it is hey kurt let us know and review please
Wilson's new album The Harmony Codex sounded great all the way through and at the first listen. This rarely ever happens for me anymore. A solid 64 minutes. The wife and I both listened to it together and we both liked it at first listen. Nice late afternoon music. Somewhat trippy, definitely Wilson and I say that in a good way. We listened to Madman Across The Water afterwards.
It would be a nice album to listen to after Days Of Future Passed for example. Or Wish You Were Here.
Well into the whole album, the title track #7, was really nice. Melodic and musical and drew me in even farther than the previous tracks which were varied and interesting enough in their own right. Track #9 Actual Brutal Facts came on stronger. It was like Hip - Hoppy / disco-y meets Floyd. If I was to break this album into two parts, I would start out Part 2 with The Harmony Codex. It would make for a really strong stand alone album side.
I looked into the vinyl and there were too many issues with the quality of the pressings. Being new and Wilson, I went straight to the 24 / 96 AIFF / wav files and glad I did in this case.
Yeah - it seems like he wants to play around/experiment with it. Obviously he could edit the lyrics if he thought they were not quite right - sort of like if he had written some lyrics then looked at them a few days later and said "What was I thinking?"
What were they thinking has been one of the big questions I keep asking myself as I am going through old, warm and fuzzy and not so fuzzy music with my new speakers. I say this because the resolution now is at such a high level that I am now hearing the craftsmanship of the musicians. I asked the wife if she is now simply listening to the music instead of trying to hear the music. She said, yes.
Wilson is a recent addition to the short list of my musical heroes. Talented and unafraid as an engineer demonstrated by his tackling famous music and having the nerve to remaster and even remix it. Some efforts are better than others, but he keeps going forward. Trying out AI with his music is a very logical next step for him.
Is this a new type of Bernie Taupin / Elton John collaboration ? Bernie wrote the lyrics and Elton wrote the music. With a prolific musician / engineer like Wilson, could AI inspired lyrics anticipate and draw unexpected / expected musical reactions out of Wilson ? I really like this song we are discussing and the music itself works without the lyrics.
Yeah - it seems like he wants to play around/experiment with it. Obviously he could edit the lyrics if he thought they were not quite right - sort of like if he had written some lyrics then looked at them a few days later and said "What was I thinking?"
This topic, quickly gets complicated. Let,'s play " devils advocate" . I accept that, at the moment, gifted folks know bad "poetry". But what in a years time , Could an artist claim to bad poetry was the " AI me" and good poetry wa "me" . How would we know ? In the end ,the art gonna depend on whether we all appreciate the new songs .Somehow, but I defo, do not think anyone knows the end results
I do not disagree.It would be interesting if Stephen commented .As an ameteur to looking in I would have thought he would validate his "AI self" before releaseing a song ..Maybe he wants to see the reaction the song gets.
Yeah - it seems like he wants to play around/experiment with it. Obviously he could edit the lyrics if he thought they were not quite right - sort of like if he had written some lyrics then looked at them a few days later and said "What was I thinking?"
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Dec 15, 2023 - 6:30am
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The obvious "feel" of the song is Steven's music and voice, but the ability for AI to write the lyrics "as he would" is pretty impressive.
For fun...I decided to do the same thing just now, but "like Eminem". With his producers and voice... I'm sure it's a hit:
Prompt: Write Christmas song lyrics in the style of Eminem. Don't mention Christmas. Make it feel cold and lonely
(Verse 1)
Yo, it's so cold, it's like the world's on freeze,
Walkin' through this icy breeze, got me fallin' to my knees.
Lonely nights, street lights, shadows on the wall,
Silent whispers in the wind, ain't no comfort at all.
(Chorus)
It's a cold world, no warmth in sight,
Just a lonely soul, wandering through the night.
No jingle bells, no festive cheer,
Just the echo of my footsteps, is all I hear.
(Verse 2)
Snowflakes fallin', like my dreams to the ground,
Lost in my thoughts, in this silence profound.
Empty streets, empty heart, no one around,
In this cold, cold world, my solitude is found.
(Chorus)
It's a cold world, no warmth in sight,
Just a lonely soul, wandering through the night.
No jingle bells, no festive cheer,
Just the echo of my footsteps, is all I hear.
(Outro)
So here I stand, under the pale moonlight,
In this cold, cold world, on this cold, cold night.
I'm not averse to the use of AI, and as Wilson said "it's not going away". For the music it could hard to tell, especially since so many recording artists compose with identifiable (and often re-used) chord structures, but it's still discernable in lyrics to me. They always look like a translation from another language into English - like the writing in a spam email. I am not familiar with a lot of Wilson's lyrics but I doubt he would've written lyrics like these: All the world sleeps on in silence/ Wrapped in a blanket of snow But when the morning awakens/ The beauty of life starts to flow
I do not disagree.It would be interesting if Stephen commented .As an ameteur to looking in I would have thought he would validate his "AI self" before releaseing a song ..Maybe he wants to see the reaction the song gets.
Yep IMOP a good Xmas tune. Artists working with AI feels "right". In the absence Stephen's disclosure, I would not be able to descern between artist and AI .I accept the future.
The obvious "feel" of the song is Steven's music and voice, but the ability for AI to write the lyrics "as he would" is pretty impressive.
For fun...I decided to do the same thing just now, but "like Eminem". With his producers and voice... I'm sure it's a hit:
Prompt: Write Christmas song lyrics in the style of Eminem. Don't mention Christmas. Make it feel cold and lonely
(Verse 1)
Yo, it's so cold, it's like the world's on freeze,
Walkin' through this icy breeze, got me fallin' to my knees.
Lonely nights, street lights, shadows on the wall,
Silent whispers in the wind, ain't no comfort at all.
(Chorus)
It's a cold world, no warmth in sight,
Just a lonely soul, wandering through the night.
No jingle bells, no festive cheer,
Just the echo of my footsteps, is all I hear.
(Verse 2)
Snowflakes fallin', like my dreams to the ground,
Lost in my thoughts, in this silence profound.
Empty streets, empty heart, no one around,
In this cold, cold world, my solitude is found.
(Chorus)
It's a cold world, no warmth in sight,
Just a lonely soul, wandering through the night.
No jingle bells, no festive cheer,
Just the echo of my footsteps, is all I hear.
(Outro)
So here I stand, under the pale moonlight,
In this cold, cold world, on this cold, cold night.
Yep IMOP a good Xmas tune. Artists working with AI feels "right". In the absence Stephen's disclosure, I would not be able to descern between artist and AI .I accept the future.
I'm not averse to the use of AI, and as Wilson said "it's not going away". For the music it could hard to tell, especially since so many recording artists compose with identifiable (and often re-used) chord structures, but it's still discernable in lyrics to me. They always look like a translation from another language into English - like the writing in a spam email. I am not familiar with a lot of Wilson's lyrics but I doubt he would've written lyrics like these: All the world sleeps on in silence/ Wrapped in a blanket of snow But when the morning awakens/ The beauty of life starts to flow
Dec 14, 2023 Challenged by a friend last week on why Iâd never done a Christmas song, I protested it wasn't really me, and besides I didnât think I had it in me to write suitably Christmassy lyrics. "No problemâ, he said, "weâll get ChatGPT to do it for you!", upon which he instructed the AI to generate Christmas lyrics in the style of Steven Wilson. Which it proceeded to do so. By the yard, in fact, I was shocked at how instantaneous and easy it was to guide it ("donât actually mention Christmas" we said to it, "make it feel more lonelyââ¦etc)
Iâm still not entirely sure what I think about AI, the knee-jerk reaction is to consider it a threat to a musician like me, but itâs clearly not going away, so this is my experiment to try embracing it and using it as a tool in the creative process. And of course also to have some fun doing something I would never normally have thought about doing, the archetypal seasonal song. December Skies is the result, swiftly recorded last weekend and written in collaboration with an Artificial Intelligence version of myself. I wonder what people will make of it. I wonder what I make of it.
In keeping with the artificial intelligence theme, the visualiser for December Skies has also been generated using a purpose built AI system created by Miles Skarin. The video is based on imagery drawn from some of my previous videos then placed into 2D and 3D backdrops.
Music by Steven Wilson, guitar solo and backing vocals by Randy McStine.
December Skies (lyrics by ChatGPT).
In the hush of a long winterâs dream
Through a window the candlelight gleams
Veiled in whispers the stillness of night
On a canvas of stars in the sky
All the world sleeps on in silence
Wrapped in a blanket of snow
But when the morning awakens
The beauty of life starts to flow
December skies will carry me home
In the forest where moonlight it shines
The grip of the frost on the pines
Then the air weaves the warmth of a song
Still the heartbeat of winter goes on
Yep IMOP a good Xmas tune. Artists working with AI feels "right". In the absence Stephen's disclosure, I would not be able to descern between artist and AI .I accept the future.
Challenged by a friend last week on why I’d never done a Christmas song, I protested it wasn't really me, and besides I didn’t think I had it in me to write suitably Christmassy lyrics. "No problem”, he said, "we’ll get ChatGPT to do it for you!", upon which he instructed the AI to generate Christmas lyrics in the style of Steven Wilson. Which it proceeded to do so. By the yard, in fact, I was shocked at how instantaneous and easy it was to guide it ("don’t actually mention Christmas" we said to it, "make it feel more lonely”…etc) I’m still not entirely sure what I think about AI, the knee-jerk reaction is to consider it a threat to a musician like me, but it’s clearly not going away, so this is my experiment to try embracing it and using it as a tool in the creative process. And of course also to have some fun doing something I would never normally have thought about doing, the archetypal seasonal song. December Skies is the result, swiftly recorded last weekend and written in collaboration with an Artificial Intelligence version of myself. I wonder what people will make of it. I wonder what I make of it. In keeping with the artificial intelligence theme, the visualiser for December Skies has also been generated using a purpose built AI system created by Miles Skarin. The video is based on imagery drawn from some of my previous videos then placed into 2D and 3D backdrops.
Music by Steven Wilson, guitar solo and backing vocals by Randy McStine. December Skies (lyrics by ChatGPT).
In the hush of a long winter’s dream Through a window the candlelight gleams Veiled in whispers the stillness of night On a canvas of stars in the sky All the world sleeps on in silence Wrapped in a blanket of snow But when the morning awakens The beauty of life starts to flow December skies will carry me home In the forest where moonlight it shines The grip of the frost on the pines Then the air weaves the warmth of a song Still the heartbeat of winter goes on
Steven Wilson
Very nice at first listen, imho. Steven's music really compliments the lyrics in a dreamy way. The video part works well, too.
Dec 14, 2023 Challenged by a friend last week on why Iâd never done a Christmas song, I protested it wasn't really me, and besides I didnât think I had it in me to write suitably Christmassy lyrics. "No problemâ, he said, "weâll get ChatGPT to do it for you!", upon which he instructed the AI to generate Christmas lyrics in the style of Steven Wilson. Which it proceeded to do so. By the yard, in fact, I was shocked at how instantaneous and easy it was to guide it ("donât actually mention Christmas" we said to it, "make it feel more lonelyââ¦etc)
Iâm still not entirely sure what I think about AI, the knee-jerk reaction is to consider it a threat to a musician like me, but itâs clearly not going away, so this is my experiment to try embracing it and using it as a tool in the creative process. And of course also to have some fun doing something I would never normally have thought about doing, the archetypal seasonal song. December Skies is the result, swiftly recorded last weekend and written in collaboration with an Artificial Intelligence version of myself. I wonder what people will make of it. I wonder what I make of it.
In keeping with the artificial intelligence theme, the visualiser for December Skies has also been generated using a purpose built AI system created by Miles Skarin. The video is based on imagery drawn from some of my previous videos then placed into 2D and 3D backdrops.
Music by Steven Wilson, guitar solo and backing vocals by Randy McStine.
December Skies (lyrics by ChatGPT).
In the hush of a long winterâs dream
Through a window the candlelight gleams
Veiled in whispers the stillness of night
On a canvas of stars in the sky
All the world sleeps on in silence
Wrapped in a blanket of snow
But when the morning awakens
The beauty of life starts to flow
December skies will carry me home
In the forest where moonlight it shines
The grip of the frost on the pines
Then the air weaves the warmth of a song
Still the heartbeat of winter goes on
