Monkeysdad wrote: 
There are a lot of "if's" this election season, like:

• the economic environment and world political climate at election time
• Citizens United and the insane ridiculous amount of money that are pouring in by BIG MONEY to get Romney and other corporate whores elected
• Whether or not people actually believe the lies from the Right
• the effect of social media
• who gets out to vote

 

 hippiechick wrote: 
Yet you seem so confident in your postings that the President will win...and that the Dem's will regain the house. Or am I wrong in my observations???

 Monkeysdad wrote: 
Well, yeah!

 steeler wrote: 
You started talking about fences before I did.  You brought them up not me.

I was refering to your statement below :

No terrorism, either.  And no al-Queda, war in Iraq, war in Afghanistan, strife in Pakistan. All that amped up when Obama took office. Bin Laden did not exist as a threat until he was taken out under Obama's watch.  Wait . . . that last one isn't coming out the way it should.

But no worries.  Moving on.  Is the premeption issue a state's rights issue, in essence, or what please educate me ?

You are great at deconstructing positions of others, yet offer no stands or positions in rebuttal. 

What exactly is your position on the problem with legal and illegal immigration ?  Mine are well known.  Sanctuary Cities and the rule of law ?  Fast and Furious ?  A program developed in the wake of the immigration problems we are facing.  Is it a veiled attempt to discredit the 2nd Amendment and further limit gun rights, or just the incompetent bungling of the present administration and its DOJ leadership or something else altogether ?  Do we even have an immigration problem in your opinion and if you think there is one, what is it about and how should we fix it ?

 oldslabsides wrote: 
YOU DIDN"T PUT ENOUGH COLOR OR LARGE SIZE FONTS IN THE POST TO ATTRACT ATTENTION.

 DaveInVA wrote: 

Just got home and haven't caught up, yet, but let's add this to the above. 

About two years ago according to the LA Times which I posted in the old illegal immigrant thread, the cost of illegals to just the County of Los Angeles was $1 Billion per year.  That's just the county ! 

Easy to google for those that do not believe me. 

 DaveInVA wrote: 

Interesting article.
Okay, I won't jack this forum with anything else about taxes but I thought it was relevant....

 sirdroseph wrote: 
Well yeah, there's that....

 Monkeysdad wrote: 

I find it amusing that people actually think it makes a difference.

 hippiechick wrote: 
You sound nervous that he might actually win.

 sirdroseph wrote: 
I'd rather vote for him than feel partly responsable for helping one of the others get in. And then I can't be blamed when they f*ck up.

 sirdroseph wrote: 
"Group W bench for Johnson"

 islander wrote: 
Ain't now way someone with that much common sense will ever sniff the White House, but he does have my vote which of course will do him absolutely no good!

 Monkeysdad wrote: 
Because Romney is one of the biggest tax offenders around.

 hippiechick wrote: 

Okay, I went back a reread the article, how'd you go from the rich stealing OR illegals getting a windfall from tax credits/stealing  to how I'm going to vote?

 sirdroseph wrote: 
I wish Gary Johnson could just go for the cool vote:

Gary Johnson is cooler than you. He lost toes to frostbite on Mount Everest (he made the summit). He's also stood atop McKinley and Kilimanjaro. He competes in mountain bike races. He broke his knee and back in a parachute mishap. 

Oh, and during his two terms as governer of New Mexico he fixed the budget problems, dealt with immigration, increased jobs and remodeled the governor's mansion. 

 DaveInVA wrote: 

Gary Johnson awaits your vote Dave!

 DaveInVA wrote: 
 I was actually asking MD but thanks for playing

 hippiechick wrote: 
I don't want to vote for any of them, its like being asked "Do you want to ge shot with a shotgun or a 45?"

 Monkeysdad wrote: 
Does that mean you will not vote for Romney?