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Beaker

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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 3:54pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


You were saying something about taking statements out of context? 


Point taken.  Though I wouldn't entirely reverse the claim.   That court case is far from over.  Depositions and court transcripts are wonderful things.
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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 3:52pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


You were saying something about taking statements out of context? 




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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 3:45pm

 Beaker wrote:
JAIL

It's the only way they'll stop effing around.


You were saying something about taking statements out of context? 
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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 3:42pm

 Beaker wrote:
THE HECK? Documents show FEMA official ordered workers to ignore houses with Kamala Harris signs*

"If true, jail is probably in order for at least one person."

*occasional errors in copy'n'paste are unavoidable, and should be expected


Save your outrage until you've been told you'll be shot for trespassing if you knock on their door in normal times. In a post-disaster climate, a black guy picking his way through the rubble looking for someone to help would be wise to avoid certain places. If they're putting a little yard sign out, I wouldn't necessarily be worried. But around here, some people get more DIY with their F Your Feelings-type signage. I don't have a photo but anyway I understand it. 

Next time someone posts a comment about door-knockers, I'll share it. There's one guy who's good for that every year or so. 

Beaker

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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 3:38pm

JAIL

It's the only way they'll stop effing around.
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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 3:20pm


Beaker

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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 3:18pm

THE HECK? Documents show FEMA official ordered workers to ignore houses with Kamala Harris signs*

"If true, jail is probably in order for at least one person."

*occasional errors in copy'n'paste are unavoidable, and should be expected
ScottFromWyoming

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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 3:14pm

 Beaker wrote:


I think the root problem here is we can't agree on the facts.

Such as this, and this, and others just like it.

And this: 1 in every 9 !


I'm not sitting here saying Harris or Biden or Obama or anyone in the history of everything did it right. And I clearly have no idea how to stem the tide. But are these gangsters coming in through the gates? Would a wall stop them? Would attempting to stop and deport everyone coming across the southern border do anything at all to stop them? Nah. 

I don't get why the gangsters are sitting in jail. I've never really thought that US Constitutional protections should apply to non-citizens. Send them back to *wherever* after getting a good retinal scan and maybe a tattoo if we know they're criminals. But I don't think the "they're taking our jobs" complaint is valid, or honest.

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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 3:03pm

In case it wasn't clear ...

Grok: "top election issues for trump voters"

The top election issues for Trump voters in the 2024 election, based on available information, include:
  • The Economy: This has consistently been a primary concern, with Trump voters expressing significant interest in economic issues like inflation, job growth, and overall economic management. Donald Trump is often perceived as better at handling economic matters according to polls.
  • Immigration: Immigration remains a critical issue, with Trump's campaign focusing heavily on border security and immigration policies. His promise to secure the border and conduct mass deportations resonates with his voter base, viewing it as both a security and economic issue.
  • Crime and Law Enforcement: Concerns about crime, often linked to immigration in Trump's rhetoric, are prominent. His supporters look to him to maintain or restore what they perceive as law and order.
  • Inflation: The cost of living, particularly related to inflation and rising prices for essentials like gas and groceries, has been highlighted as a significant concern.
  • Taxes: Trump's advocacy for tax cuts, especially those benefiting businesses and the wealthy from his previous term, continues to appeal to his supporters.
  • Judicial Appointments: The protection of conservative Supreme Court justices and the potential for further conservative judicial appointments are important, especially in the context of issues like abortion rights.
  • Foreign Policy: There's a sentiment among Trump voters that he can bring peace and stability internationally, referencing his past policies like those aimed at the Middle East or his approach to conflicts like the Russia-Ukraine war.
  • Democracy and Election Integrity: While this might seem counterintuitive, there's a focus among Trump voters on what they perceive as the need to "repair the election system," often tied to concerns about election fraud, which Trump has repeatedly mentioned.

These issues reflect a combination of direct policy concerns like immigration and the economy, alongside broader themes like national security, judicial conservatism, and skepticism towards established political processes. This understanding is drawn from both formal polls and sentiments expressed on X, indicating what Trump supporters prioritize when deciding their vote.


Grok: "top election issues for kamala harris voters"

The top election issues for Kamala Harris voters, based on the information available from web searches and posts on X, include:
  1. State of Democracy - With 56% of Harris voters prioritizing this, there's a significant focus on preserving and strengthening democratic institutions, reflecting concerns about threats to democracy.
  2. Abortion Rights - This was explicitly mentioned as a top issue both in terms of voter sentiment (with figures like 21% from exit polls) and multiple times by supporters on X, emphasizing reproductive freedom and access to abortion.
  3. The Economy - Economic issues were also prominent, with voters interested in policies aimed at lowering costs, supporting the middle class, and addressing economic inequality. This includes proposals like tax credits, infrastructure plans, and tackling price-gouging.
  4. Reproductive Freedom - Beyond just abortion, this encompasses broader women's rights, highlighted in discussions around Kamala Harris's campaign promises.
  5. Climate Change - Although not as frequently mentioned as the above issues, there's an emphasis on building on the Biden-Harris administration’s climate policies.
  6. Affordable Housing and Infrastructure - Proposals like a downpayment assistance for first-time homebuyers were noted, indicating a push towards addressing housing affordability and infrastructure development.
  7. Criminal Justice Reform - Harris's background as a prosecutor and her advocacy for reforms in the criminal justice system, including bail reform and anti-recidivism initiatives, resonate with some voters.
  8. Public Health Initiatives - Support for increased funding for public health, especially post-COVID-19, was also a point of interest.
  9. Immigration - While less prominent, there's mention of a desire to fix the broken immigration system and secure borders, though this tends to be balanced with humane policies.

These issues reflect a broad coalition of concerns ranging from civil liberties to economic policies, with a strong emphasis on social justice themes like abortion rights and racial equity alongside traditional Democratic economic platforms.

Note the difference in placement of the immigration issue.

We have a similar situation in Canada.  And conservatives are even angrier about it.

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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 2:22pm

 Beaker wrote:


I think the root problem here is we can't agree on the facts.

Such as this, and this, and others just like it.

And this: 1 in every 9 !


immigration is clearly an issue the democrats f'd up...at least until they had something of a plan that trump quashed.
doesnt seem either party wants to solve this, or at least let the other party when in leadership solve it. 

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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 1:57pm

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Thank you.


You, of all people here, having posted one hoax, lie, and distortion after another, and NOT ONCE saying 'oops, my bad' when your hoax/lie/distortion was soundly disproven, should know better by now.  But you don't.  There's no hope for you.
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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 1:54pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Statistically insignificant compared with good ol' American raping and murdering but yes. Since he can't carry a thought to speech in a straight line, trying to parse what he says is going to always have a wild separation from what he meant. Maybe if he worked a little harder at communicating his thoughts coherently, he'd have less to complain about. 


I think the root problem here is we can't agree on the facts.

Such as this, and this, and others just like it.

And this: 1 in every 9 !
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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 1:28pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Statistically insignificant compared with good ol' American raping and murdering but yes. Since he can't carry a thought to speech in a straight line, trying to parse what he says is going to always have a wild separation from what he meant. Maybe if he worked a little harder at communicating his thoughts coherently, he'd have less to complain about. 





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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 1:26pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:


Statistically insignificant compared with good ol' American raping and murdering but yes. Since he can't carry a thought to speech in a straight line, trying to parse what he says is going to always have a wild separation from what he meant. Maybe if he worked a little harder at communicating his thoughts coherently, he'd have less to complain about. 


Thank you.
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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 11:09am

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Statistically insignificant compared with good ol' American raping and murdering but yes. (...)

There's a Twitter account for that too.
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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 11:04am

 Beaker wrote:


He's referring to protecting women from illegal immigrants who have raped and murdered American women. eg Jennifer Ann Morton, 16yo Lizbeth Medina, Laken Riley, Alexis Nungaray's 12yo daughter, etc etc.  X search: illegal immigrant murdered


Trump rally Green Bay, Wisconsin: Youtube - watch from 2:25:25


The great angry divide between tribes has often been greatly inflamed by media deliberately taking quotes out of context.  Herewith.




Statistically insignificant compared with good ol' American raping and murdering but yes. Since he can't carry a thought to speech in a straight line, trying to parse what he says is going to always have a wild separation from what he meant. Maybe if he worked a little harder at communicating his thoughts coherently, he'd have less to complain about. 
Beaker

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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 10:53am

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Which is why I vote to support immigration rights. Amusing that when Trump says "I'm going to protect them whether they like it or not" it's creepy. 


He's referring to protecting women from illegal immigrants who have raped and murdered American women. eg Jennifer Ann Morton, 16yo Lizbeth Medina, Laken Riley, Rachel Morin, Alexis Nungaray's 12yo daughter, etc etc.  X search: illegal immigrant murdered



Trump rally Green Bay, Wisconsin: Youtube - watch from 2:25:25


The great angry divide between tribes has often been greatly inflamed by media deliberately taking quotes out of context.  Herewith.



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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 10:49am

 R_P wrote:

Nah, he's prolific, but the tweet in question seems to have been deleted.


I guess I have to have an account to see more recent posts - I didn't see anything posted after 2020.
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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 10:37am

 Proclivities wrote:
It looked as if that guy hadn't posted anything in about 4 years, so it's hard to say whether or not the post in the screenshot is real.  Not that it matters.

Nah, he's prolific, but the tweet in question seems to have been deleted.

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Posted: Nov 8, 2024 - 10:24am

 Beaker wrote:

I can agree with that.  Vote your own conscience, 100% all the time.  It's the only way.



Which is why I vote to support immigration rights. Amusing that when Trump says "I'm going to protect them whether they like it or not" it's creepy. 
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