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Posted: Apr 23, 2025 - 8:51pm

 rgio wrote:

So the stock is up 6% today.

I saw comments that people have bought into the idea that the company is now focused on Robots and other "non-car" things.  I wouldn't be surprised if he has his AI company merge with Tesla to use the veil of AI as protection against his cars.

This was an interesting new scandal, which doesn't surprise anyone....

Tesla odometer uses “predictive algorithms” to void warranty, lawsuit claims

How to turn your 50k warranty into a 40k warranty without even trying.


Tesla is a meme stock. The price is not supported by any 'normal' metric of valuation. The P/E is over 100 still and the price is half what it was a month ago. Meanwhile, Toyota makes money, makes a lot of hybrids, makes progress on their autonomous driving (without accidents), and has a P/E of 7. 
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Posted: Apr 23, 2025 - 9:28am

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Q1 earnings are out. They are bad. 400M$ in operating income, 595M$ in regulatory credits. Profits down, sales down, and we haven't yet seen the full impact of him pissing off a good portion of his customer base.    Also, for all the newly minted fans that love a rugged individualist pulling himself up by his bootstraps, that regulatory credit number is government subsidies. If not for tax money directed his way, they would have negative revenue.

Somewhere way back in this thread there are people calling him a business genius and saying 'just wait, you'll see'.


So the stock is up 6% today.

I saw comments that people have bought into the idea that the company is now focused on Robots and other "non-car" things.  I wouldn't be surprised if he has his AI company merge with Tesla to use the veil of AI as protection against his cars.

This was an interesting new scandal, which doesn't surprise anyone....

Tesla odometer uses “predictive algorithms” to void warranty, lawsuit claims

How to turn your 50k warranty into a 40k warranty without even trying.
islander

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Posted: Apr 22, 2025 - 9:04pm

Q1 earnings are out. They are bad. 400M$ in operating income, 595M$ in regulatory credits. Profits down, sales down, and we haven't yet seen the full impact of him pissing off a good portion of his customer base.    Also, for all the newly minted fans that love a rugged individualist pulling himself up by his bootstraps, that regulatory credit number is government subsidies. If not for tax money directed his way, they would have negative revenue.

Somewhere way back in this thread there are people calling him a business genius and saying 'just wait, you'll see'.
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Posted: Apr 22, 2025 - 10:09am

 islander wrote:


That's what they are going for, but this is what I see: 


Yeah, pretty much...

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Posted: Apr 22, 2025 - 10:05am

 Proclivities wrote:





That's what they are going for, but this is what I see: 

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Posted: Apr 22, 2025 - 10:02am

 islander wrote:


Something circulated among tech bros many years ago and they all started doing it as a conscious thing to signal dominance . I think it's also a thing in the 'alpha male' crowd.  Now I see it everywhere and I think it really sends a different signal. 



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Posted: Apr 22, 2025 - 9:56am

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Something circulated among tech bros many years ago and they all started doing it as a conscious thing to signal dominance . I think it's also a thing in the 'alpha male' crowd.  Now I see it everywhere and I think it really sends a different signal. 
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Posted: Apr 22, 2025 - 9:37am

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The 'steeple hand' gesture thing the 'alpha male' crowd does is such a tell on their insecurity. 



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Posted: Apr 22, 2025 - 9:11am

 islander wrote:


The 'steeple hand' gesture thing the 'alpha male' crowd does is such a tell on their insecurity. 


It's also a photo of someone who has never actually worn a ball cap. 

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Posted: Apr 21, 2025 - 8:49pm

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Enjoying the irony of Truck-drivin' Real 'Muricans (who used to blockade Tesla charging stations and roll coal at Teslas on the road) circling the wagons around a Tesla dealership to "defend" it. And not a single electric vehicle among them.

Can't think of a better way to keep customers from actually visiting to buy a car, btw.


< Squinting to see if it's an onion headline or not >
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Posted: Apr 21, 2025 - 5:34pm

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Enjoying the irony of Truck-drivin' Real 'Muricans (who used to blockade Tesla charging stations and roll coal at Teslas on the road) circling the wagons around a Tesla dealership to "defend" it. And not a single electric vehicle among them.

Can't think of a better way to keep customers from actually visiting to buy a car, btw.
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Posted: Apr 21, 2025 - 4:25pm

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The 'steeple hand' gesture thing the 'alpha male' crowd does is such a tell on their insecurity. 
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Posted: Apr 21, 2025 - 2:54pm

Musk wants to leave politics because he’s tired of ‘attacks’ from the left, report says

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Posted: Apr 14, 2025 - 11:57am

Man Who Bumped Tesla While Parallel Parking Sentenced To Death


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Posted: Apr 10, 2025 - 1:25pm

Aka glib sociopaths
It has a fair claim to be the ugliest philosophy the postwar world has produced. Selfishness, it contends, is good, altruism evil, empathy and compassion are irrational and destructive. The poor deserve to die; the rich deserve unmediated power.
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Posted: Apr 10, 2025 - 1:20pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

From the Rolling Stone:

According to a source, when Musk privately messages associates and confidants about reports from federal staffers about how their lives have been wrecked, the Tesla CEO is known to react with laugh-crying emojis. Story:
— rollingstone.com (@rollingstone.com) 10 April 2025 at 19:50


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Posted: Apr 10, 2025 - 1:06pm

From the Rolling Stone:

According to a source, when Musk privately messages associates and confidants about reports from federal staffers about how their lives have been wrecked, the Tesla CEO is known to react with laugh-crying emojis. Story:

— rollingstone.com (@rollingstone.com) 10 April 2025 at 19:50

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