Looks like Zelensky is now kowtowing...wants back at the negotiating table.
Not that he wasn't disrespected, but he could have handled himself better in the face of that chubby bastard.
He's come too far to allow Trump's ego to prevent his negotiating a way out for Ukraine.
Looks like Zelensky is now kowtowing...wants back at the negotiating table.
Not that he wasn't disrespected, but he could have handled himself better in the face of that chubby bastard.
Outside of all the rhetoric and assumed l-t objectives which have made this bad situation even worse, and stating the obviousâ¦the US involvement is voluntary. The US involvement may be as a result of it acting as âpolicemanâ of the world in protecting Ukraine from an indefensible and militarily unprovoked Russian assault. If it chooses that path, asking for restitution in some form from rare earth deposits is not out of the question (in which case, the US acts more like a mercenary). Another reason for involvement is to punish Russia with a prolonged war effort, that Ukraine most likely canât win alone. However, without our âfullâ support, Ukraine may still not win, at least not anytime soonâ¦meaning years of death and destruction. Iâm not sure I would want to sign up for that or put my soldiers in that situation.
As such, at least some attempt at dialogue seems appropriate.
I agree but let's let a competent leader or leaders from other countries take the lead on it as Trump/Musk/Vance are clearly not up to the task and will certainly not achieve any concessions from Russia that would benefit Ukraine.
When Trump said Zelensky was welcome back when he was ready for peace he might as well have said "when you are ready to listen to and agree to the all the terms that Putin gave me to pass onto you". Puppets will be puppets after all...
If only the Ukrainians would have built some statue to Trump (thanking him & the US for their support) and thrown it up in some city square and took pictures of it to show to Trump or offer to take Trump to visit it... his ass would have been slathered enough to probably double the aid packages to Ukraine. A $50,000 statue could have bought them billions more in continued aid.
Outside of all the rhetoric and assumed l-t objectives which have made this bad situation even worse, and stating the obviousâ¦the US involvement is voluntary. The US involvement may be as a result of it acting as âpolicemanâ of the world in protecting Ukraine from an indefensible and militarily unprovoked Russian assault. If it chooses that path, asking for restitution in some form from rare earth deposits is not out of the question (in which case, the US acts more like a mercenary). Another reason for involvement is to punish Russia with a prolonged war effort, that Ukraine most likely canât win alone. However, without our âfullâ support, Ukraine may still not win, at least not anytime soonâ¦meaning years of death and destruction. Iâm not sure I would want to sign up for that or put my soldiers in that situation.
As such, at least some attempt at dialogue seems appropriate.
Nobody wants war except for the aggressor. You can identify them as the ones who crossed the border with guns in hand. A peaceful solution is available - the aggressor stops being aggressive *AND* returns back across the border. Anything less just encourages future aggressions. Calling out Ukraine for resisting the onslaught is ridiculous and only serves the cause of the aggressor.
Nobody wants war except for the aggressor. You can identify them as the ones who crossed the border with guns in hand. A peaceful solution is available - the aggressor stops being aggressive *AND* returns back across the border. Anything less just encourages future aggressions. Calling out Ukraine for resisting the onslaught is ridiculous and only serves the cause of the aggressor.
Trying to read between the lines you scrawl, but War is bad right? Billionaires sending others to die in war is bad right? Oligarchs invading other countries for 'reasons', causing war would be bad... right? These are things we should all oppose.
Obviously. And that includes making them worse. Or provoking them. Or starting them under false pretenses. Etc., etc.
Trying to read between the lines you scrawl, but War is bad right? Billionaires sending others to die in war is bad right? Oligarchs invading other countries for 'reasons', causing war would be bad... right? These are things we should all oppose.
I gave up trying to figure out Richard some years ago. No matter what side you're on, he's on the other.
Trump Pauses All Military Aid to Ukraine
The pause applies to weapons that are already in transit
Maybe Adam Smith (The Wealth of Nations, 1776) can help you out.
Glory Be!
Trying to read between the lines you scrawl, but War is bad right? Billionaires sending others to die in war is bad right? Oligarchs invading other countries for 'reasons', causing war would be bad... right? These are things we should all oppose.
Ukraine, Diplomacy and War When politicians in power are extremely unpopular, they generally turn to militarism and jingoism for a quick boost. Starmer is now the darling of the UK media for his sabre-rattling over Ukraine and is busily churning out tweets of military imagery.
Craig Murray
And putin and trump are posting pictures of kittens and fields of daises?
I'm going to have a beer or four with Scott and see if we can find your point.
Ukraine, Diplomacy and War When politicians in power are extremely unpopular, they generally turn to militarism and jingoism for a quick boost. Starmer is now the darling of the UK media for his sabre-rattling over Ukraine and is busily churning out tweets of military imagery. Craig Murray
