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Isabeau

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Posted: Feb 4, 2025 - 6:56am

"The replacement of our constitutional system of government with the whims of an unelected private citizen is a coup. The U.S. president has no authority to cut programs created and funded by Congress, and a private citizen tapped by a president has even less standing to try anything so radical.
But Republicans are allowing Musk to run amok. This could be because they know that Trump has embraced the idea that the American government is a “Deep State,” but that the extreme cuts the MAGA Republicans say they want are actually quite unpopular with Americans in general, and even with most Republican voters. By letting Musk make the cuts the MAGA base wants, they can both provide those cuts and distance themselves from them.
But permitting a private citizen to override the will of our representatives in Congress destroys the U.S. Constitution. It also makes Congress itself superfluous. And it takes the minority rule Republicans have come to embrace to the logical end of putting government power in the hands of one man."  — Heather Cox Richardson 2/4/25
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Posted: Feb 4, 2025 - 6:48am

Not a trans-sexual, not an immigrant...
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Posted: Feb 4, 2025 - 5:40am

 Red_Dragon wrote:
 
Another fake meme.
rgio

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Posted: Feb 4, 2025 - 5:22am

This was in today's sport section of the local paper. 

America in 2025: The less sense something makes, the more it proves its own validity. The wisdom of any action is secondary to the reaction it induces. The greatest of the virtues is to troll thy neighbor. The chaos is the point.

It is a perfect synopses of the Republican party.

Two weeks into the "elect the felon because my gas prices are too high and my financial well being has been destroyed by transsexual athletes and the foreigners" administration, it strikes me how relatively silent the MAGAverse here has become. Apparently even stupid has its limits.
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Posted: Feb 3, 2025 - 6:11pm

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Posted: Feb 3, 2025 - 1:49pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:





Exactly, straight out of the felon's mouth to America's ears.

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Posted: Feb 3, 2025 - 1:49pm

 Proclivities wrote:

trump is in it for himself. vance on the other hand believes in the fascist program. vance is smarter and far more dangerous
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Posted: Feb 3, 2025 - 1:01pm

In the logic of destruction, there is no need to rebuild afterwards. In this chaos, the oligarchs will tell us that there is no choice but to have a strong man in charge. It can be a befuddled Trump signing ever larger pieces of paper for the cameras, or a conniving Vance who, unlike Trump, has always known the plot. Or someone else.
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Posted: Feb 3, 2025 - 11:55am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

given that what is going on right now is highly illegal, there is no way the perpetrators are going to calmly hand over the reigns of power and meekly walk off to prison (or rely on Trump pardoning them beforehand).. I fear elections are unlikely to be anything approaching normal for a long time to come. 





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Posted: Feb 3, 2025 - 7:21am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

given that what is going on right now is highly illegal, there is no way the perpetrators are going to calmly hand over the reigns of power and meekly walk off to prison (or rely on Trump pardoning them beforehand).. I fear elections are unlikely to be anything approaching normal for a long time to come. 



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Posted: Feb 3, 2025 - 6:48am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

given that what is going on right now is highly illegal, there is no way the perpetrators are going to calmly hand over the reigns of power and meekly walk off to prison (or rely on Trump pardoning them beforehand).. I fear elections are unlikely to be anything approaching normal for a long time to come. 


Its always a joke... a rant... something he'd never really do... until he does it.


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Posted: Feb 3, 2025 - 6:42am

 black321 wrote:


problems start way before the actual voting.
I'd settle for two decent candidates.

given that what is going on right now is highly illegal, there is no way the perpetrators are going to calmly hand over the reigns of power and meekly walk off to prison (or rely on Trump pardoning them beforehand).. I fear elections are unlikely to be anything approaching normal for a long time to come. 

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Posted: Feb 3, 2025 - 6:34am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:


do you guys seriously still think you are going to have a free and fair election in 4 years?


problems start way before the actual voting.
I'd settle for two decent candidates.
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Posted: Feb 2, 2025 - 9:56pm

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+1 TY! 

I think the Democrats' big focus going forward has to be on the economy and the cost of living. The price tags on big ticket items—house, car, college education—have been rising faster than inflation. The inflation-driven increases in the price of food and gas also contributed to the feeling that it's much harder if not impossible to get ahead. 

The Democrats also tried to appeal to a broad coalition of people who perhaps didn't have enough in common. Politics can be very tribal. It's definitely been tribal for the GOP as they're all huddled around the Trump campfire. The Democrats have to widen their appeal and at the same time come up with a new mission—not an easy task. 

It may not be as hard as it seems right now, given that Trump is behaving like a dying Godzilla, erratically destroying all sorts of things and alienating groups he should be friends with. I think he doesn't give a damn anymore about his poll numbers, now that he doesn't have to run again. 

I agree with you about Buttigieg—the guy has it. He's smart, cheerful, direct and informed. I wonder if American voters would have problems with his homosexuality. I hope not but after this last election I have very little faith in the courage, decency and integrity of the average American. 


do you guys seriously still think you are going to have a free and fair election in 4 years?
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Posted: Feb 2, 2025 - 9:09pm

 Isabeau wrote:

I don't think that's necessarily true. Democrats simply haven't kept up with how to effectively communicate their agenda. Politics used to be a stoggy business; now, it's has taken on more personality cult entertainment. The Biden Administration did a lot of incredible things and kept things relatively in line fighting inflation. The message wasn't the problem; it was the messenger.
Imho, Pete Buttigieg is a fantastic communicator. He knows how to respond quickly to a military superior without superlatives. Whenever he speaks, it's clear and concise, and not without some clever wit thrown in. People sit up, and listen. He cuts off BS without getting vulgar or using pejoratives.
Too many times Democrats have spoken as a group of "The Almighty WE" thank each other for 'all the hard work' and the message gets muddied with who did what on what committee; like an awards show! The Big Tent Communicating has got to stop. Even Lincoln said you can't please everyone all of the time. Get to the point with the American People, and save the back slapping after the cameras are off.

Concise, Succinct, mingled with a bit of wit and grit to handle comeback (and not using the magik mirror to say 'Hello to everyone!')  is desperately needed in the next Democratic nominee.


+1 TY! 

I think the Democrats' big focus going forward has to be on the economy and the cost of living. The price tags on big ticket items—house, car, college education—have been rising faster than inflation. The inflation-driven increases in the price of food and gas also contributed to the feeling that it's much harder if not impossible to get ahead. 

The Democrats also tried to appeal to a broad coalition of people who perhaps didn't have enough in common. Politics can be very tribal. It's definitely been tribal for the GOP as they're all huddled around the Trump campfire. The Democrats have to widen their appeal and at the same time come up with a new mission—not an easy task. 

It may not be as hard as it seems right now, given that Trump is behaving like a dying Godzilla, erratically destroying all sorts of things and alienating groups he should be friends with. I think he doesn't give a damn anymore about his poll numbers, now that he doesn't have to run again. 

I agree with you about Buttigieg—the guy has it. He's smart, cheerful, direct and informed. I wonder if American voters would have problems with his homosexuality. I hope not but after this last election I have very little faith in the courage, decency and integrity of the average American. 
Red_Dragon

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Posted: Feb 2, 2025 - 7:46pm

Trump to cut off funding for South Africa
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Posted: Jan 30, 2025 - 1:05pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:


Steely_D, care to chime in?


The now ruling class/deep state doesn't need most of the people in the country. Covid taught us that losing a few million people doesn't really change the political equation for them. People should be happy to die if it helps the economy, remember?
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Posted: Jan 30, 2025 - 10:30am

 Isabeau wrote:

I don't think that's necessarily true. Democrats simply haven't kept up with how to effectively communicate their agenda. Politics used to be a stoggy business; now, it's has taken on more personality cult entertainment. The Biden Administration did a lot of incredible things and kept things relatively in line fighting inflation. The message wasn't the problem; it was the messenger.
Imho, Pete Buttigieg is a fantastic communicator. He knows how to respond quickly to a military superior without superlatives. Whenever he speaks, it's clear and concise, and not without some clever wit thrown in. People sit up, and listen. He cuts off BS without getting vulgar or using pejoratives.
Too many times Democrats have spoken as a group of "The Almighty WE" thank each other for 'all the hard work' and the message gets muddied with who did what on what committee; like an awards show! The Big Tent Communicating has got to stop. Even Lincoln said you can't please everyone all of the time. Get to the point with the American People, and save the back slapping after the cameras are off.

Concise, Succinct, mingled with a bit of wit and grit to handle comeback (and not using the magik mirror to say 'Hello to everyone!')  is desperately needed in the next Democratic nominee.

They really can't wait that long. They should be out there firing off every day. "Bird Flu? What is Trump hiding?". "Republicans FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT for the wealthy, not for you!", "Where are the lower prices you promised?", "Why is Luigi Mangione doing more on Health Care than Trump". Start putting some offense out there. I'm not saying stoop to Fox Spews level with lies etc. But hammer them on real issues that effect real people. Every day, beat the drum. Nobody is going to pay attention to you if you just sit on your hands or run around reacting to every stupid thing Trump does or says. 

Isabeau

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Posted: Jan 30, 2025 - 10:15am

 rgio wrote:

I don't think the same thing works for the Left.  

The more toxically insane an outlet is on the Right, the more popular it is.  The left requires a baseline intelligence, and stories on facts just aren't as much fun to discuss as conspiracy driven insanity.  Another difference is that standing up on the left makes you a target for the right....while the left never really targets people, they target ideas.  Boring.

I don't think that's necessarily true. Democrats simply haven't kept up with how to effectively communicate their agenda. Politics used to be a stoggy business; now, it's has taken on more personality cult entertainment. The Biden Administration did a lot of incredible things and kept things relatively in line fighting inflation. The message wasn't the problem; it was the messenger.
Imho, Pete Buttigieg is a fantastic communicator. He knows how to respond quickly to a military superior without superlatives. Whenever he speaks, it's clear and concise, and not without some clever wit thrown in. People sit up, and listen. He cuts off BS without getting vulgar or using pejoratives.
Too many times Democrats have spoken as a group of "The Almighty WE" thank each other for 'all the hard work' and the message gets muddied with who did what on what committee; like an awards show! The Big Tent Communicating has got to stop. Even Lincoln said you can't please everyone all of the time. Get to the point with the American People, and save the back slapping after the cameras are off.

Concise, Succinct, mingled with a bit of wit and grit to handle comeback (and not using the magik mirror to say 'Hello to everyone!')  is desperately needed in the next Democratic nominee.
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