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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 12:53pm

 kurtster wrote:

Yeah, but the whole quote says something much different ...

 

Once again, Donald Trump has made another statement that requires interpretation – but only for those who aren’t already supporters.

This time it’s clarification on his statement on celebrating the ‘poorly educated’ for his victory in Nevada’s Republican caucuses on Tuesday.

“We won with highly educated, we won with poorly educated! I love the poorly educated,” he said from his podium, flanked by two of his sons, Donald, Jr, and Eric Tump.

 
Let's keep it honest here, shall we ?

I guess the dragon works for Cruz .... 

 
you asked for a link. I gave it to you. I wasn't being dishonest.


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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 12:47pm

 JrzyTmata wrote:

the quote is "I love the poorly educated"
but it's not that hard to find.

 
Yeah, but the whole quote says something much different ...

 

Once again, Donald Trump has made another statement that requires interpretation – but only for those who aren’t already supporters.

This time it’s clarification on his statement on celebrating the ‘poorly educated’ for his victory in Nevada’s Republican caucuses on Tuesday.

“We won with highly educated, we won with poorly educated! I love the poorly educated,” he said from his podium, flanked by two of his sons, Donald, Jr, and Eric Tump.

 
Let's keep it honest here, shall we ?

I guess the dragon works for Cruz .... 

 





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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 12:44pm

has anyone coined the terms trumpophobic or winophobic?

are trumpophobia and winophobia mental illnesses yet?
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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 12:34pm

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When I watched the Buckley Jr. vs. Vidal documentary the other day I noticed people were already saying that in the late 60s.

 
I imagine so, especially in the late 1960s, but it seemed like it went away for a while...or at least wasn't as widely touted until after '08.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 12:30pm

 kurtster wrote:
 Red_Dragon wrote:
"I love the uneducated." ~ Trump


I have yet to find that exact quote by Trump any where.

Link please.

 
the quote is "I love the poorly educated"
but it's not that hard to find.


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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 12:25pm

 Red_Dragon wrote:
"I love the uneducated." ~ Trump


I have yet to find that exact quote by Trump any where.

Link please.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 12:23pm

 Proclivities wrote:
I get his point (and yours) about the anti-establishment response but it seems unlikely that most of those who supported Obama's "change" platform are now supporting Trump - Sanders would be the more probable choice for them.  I was referring to the "different" anger coming from the Tea Party or birthers, or others who go on about wanting to "take their country back", which was different from the anger or disenchantment in 2008.
 
When I watched the Buckley Jr. vs. Vidal documentary the other day I noticed people were already saying that in the late 60s.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 12:16pm

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I don't think so.  I usually don't agree with Robert Reich, but I think he is spot on here and this has been building for some time:  

http://www.salon.com/2016/02/24/robert_reich_2016_is_the_beginning_of_the_end_of_the_establishment_partner/

 
I get his point (and yours) about the anti-establishment response but it seems unlikely that most of those who supported Obama's "change" platform are now supporting Trump - Sanders would be the more probable choice for them.  I was referring to the "different" anger coming from the Tea Party or birthers, or others who go on about wanting to "take their country back", which is coming from a different place than from the anger or disenchantment came from in 2008.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 12:11pm

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Appealing to fear usually does not end well.

I hear a lot of promises from Trump as to how everyone is going to be happy with whatever it is he will do, that it will be great, and that America will  be great again and seen as winning. winning, and winning.

I have not done the deep dive that Kurster has done, so maybe there are more specifics on some of these issues.

But let me just throw out one example:  We know he is going to build not just a wall on the U.S./Mexican border, but a "great wall."  Ok.  But he also has repeatedly stated that he will get Mexico to pay for that great wall.  Has he explained how that is going to happen?              

 

 
I would just like to say that there is a difference between fear and anger, a big difference.  While both are emotions, the responses to the two are different.  Fear cancels rational thinking.  While anger can do the same, it can also cause one to become focused and energized.

I take the bolded as a metaphor.  He will get it back in a reduced trade deficit and or with the tariffs he talks about.  It nets out the same.  Or he can threaten to take us out of NAFTA.  There are many ways to accomplish that.


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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 12:09pm

Mutual admiration society...

"You inspire us all"

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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 12:01pm

 Proclivities wrote:

In general, i seems like many different people are pissed off now, for very different reasons.

 
I don't think so.  I usually don't agree with Robert Reich, but I think he is spot on here and this has been building for some time: 

 

http://www.salon.com/2016/02/24/robert_reich_2016_is_the_beginning_of_the_end_of_the_establishment_partner/


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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 11:51am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

...ha.   remember what the buzz was like around Obama in the last election. "Yes, we can!"
His whole platform was about change and people bought into because a whole lot of people were really pissed off then. A whole lot of people are still pissed off now...
 
In general, it seems like many different people are pissed off now, for very different reasons.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 11:47am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

ha.   remember what the buzz was like around Obama in the last election. "Yes, we can!"
His whole platform was about change and people bought into because a whole lot of people were really pissed off then. A whole lot of people are still pissed off now.

Trump is playing exactly the same cheap trick with a more gung-ho street attitude and, for exactly the same reasons.  I bet he wins the election. Which leaves us with a few basic scenarios:

1. Either he gets just as handbound by the entrenched power structures that make up Washington as just about every other president and in the end doesn't change a damn thing OR
2. he does manage to get some power which he abuses the office for cronyism and to fill his own pockets and is generally as uninterested in bringing about real change as anyone else who likes filling their pockets from an open till OR
3. he does become as rabid as his jingoist campaigning suggests and does a kind of Hitler thing in 1933 on us. Finds scapegoats, stirs up wars, keeps everyone's attention on other things
pours a shitload of money into the military and public spending (which he can't actually fund without invading somewhere) and all hell breaks loose.

At this stage I think the former is by far the more likely scenario. But I don't really want to be around if he makes good on his election promises. The saddest thing is that all the "little people" in favour of him now are just going to get shafted whatever the outcome. plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose

 
I agree except for one key point, I don't think he is going to win.  Clinton will win and fulfill either 1 or 2 and possibly 3 regarding the military part anyway.  And the beat goes on.......


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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 11:45am

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Well that's some pretty direct pandering. Of course, how're they gonna be offended? They'll just be complimented.

Remember the nation has a pretty big bottom of the Bell Curve. After two terms of an educated, even-tempered minority President - it's time for the other folks to run the nation.

 
ha.   remember what the buzz was like around Obama in the last election. "Yes, we can!"
His whole platform was about change and people bought into because a whole lot of people were really pissed off then. A whole lot of people are still pissed off now.

Trump is playing exactly the same cheap trick with a more gung-ho street attitude and, for exactly the same reasons.  I bet he wins the election. Which leaves us with a few basic scenarios:

1. Either he gets just as handbound by the entrenched power structures that make up Washington as just about every other president and in the end doesn't change a damn thing OR
2. he does manage to get some power which he abuses the office for cronyism and to fill his own pockets and is generally as uninterested in bringing about real change as anyone else who likes filling their pockets from an open till OR
3. he does become as rabid as his jingoist campaigning suggests and does a kind of Hitler thing in 1933 on us. Finds scapegoats, stirs up wars, keeps everyone's attention on other things
pours a shitload of money into the military and public spending (which he can't actually fund without invading somewhere) and all hell breaks loose.

At this stage I think the former is by far the more likely scenario. But I don't really want to be around if he makes good on his election promises. The saddest thing is that all the "little people" in favour of him now are just going to get shafted whatever the outcome. plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 11:17am

 Red_Dragon wrote:
"I love the uneducated." ~ Trump

 
Well that's some pretty direct pandering. Of course, how're they gonna be offended? They'll just be complimented.

Remember the nation has a pretty big bottom of the Bell Curve. After two terms of an educated, even-tempered minority President - it's time for the other folks to run the nation.


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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 10:41am

 black321 wrote:

Yes, I am brilliant.  Thank you. 

 
I thought so.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 10:40am

 rotekz wrote: 
Yes, I am brilliant.  Thank you. 
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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 10:37am

 black321 wrote:
 Perhaps the larger issue is his open narcissism.  All candidates are probably to a certain extent narcissists.  But Trump is open and embraces his narcissism (as he did in his career), which somehow his supporters find endearing and honest.

 
http://blog.dilbert.com/post/139910704581/how-to-spot-a-narcissist-trump-persuasion-series
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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 9:41am

 rotekz wrote:
America’s new elites, fancying themselves superior to the rural, the old, the religiously inclined and the rest, have increasingly turned politics into something that is done to people, for their own good, rather than by people according to their moral outlook. And then they wonder why people go looking for something else, something less sneering.
 
Because nothing quite says "anti-elitism" like a brash, "beholden to none", Ivy League billionaire...

PS: Reminds me of Murdoch's "anti-elitist" cash cows.
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Posted: Feb 24, 2016 - 9:40am

Anger seems like just one angle he plays.  Perhaps the larger issue is his open narcissism.  All candidates are probably to a certain extent narcissists.  But Trump is open and embraces his narcissism (as he did in his career), which somehow his supporters find endearing and honest.

I've seen the same trend throughout the business community...embracing characters like Trump.  The movie Wall Street has the villain Gordon Gekko, and i think most viewers perceived him as a villain when the movie came out in the 80s.  But today, Gekko is more a hero than villain.  He's somehow a harmless character, just doing what's in his best interest. 
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