kcar wrote: 

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
Well, duh. The man and reality are bitter enemies. 

Just hoping Donnie doesn't show us his wurst during the golden shower.  

Donald Trump is gaslighting all of us

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:  Spoiled bratwurst aus Deutschland. That's the only wurst I know.

 Kaw wrote: 
Wurst is a sausage. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Or duck sausage.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
Een worst zijn. It's a typical dutch saying. You can translate it with "Trump's political opponents don't care whether the allegations are true or not". But worst is a sausage. Thats true.

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 

 Kaw wrote: 
"Whether the allegations are true or not now, it will be the Trump sausage political opponents."

 Kaw wrote: 
Seriously, you don't know me and you don't know how I see "the current situation." I'm just not into clicking on links of unknown safety in the middle of the night while trying to debug some code. 

If you think that this Dutch article is so revealing, tell us the name of the news site or the title of the piece. Or, hey, summarize it in your own words.  

"All our mainstream media promoted Clinton as the only option for the next president." 

I think the vast majority of people with even a moderate grip on sanity promoted Clinton as the only option. Your obligatory admission to Crazytown Nightmare is completely free and non-transferable. 
 

 kcar wrote: 
In reality the Netherlands is one of the most liberal countries in the world. All our mainstream media promoted Clinton as the only option for the next president. She is liberal and woman. That's enough.

I totally understand that you pass on trying to read the mentioned url. It doesn't fit how you want to see the current situation. I also understand that you choose to believe the FBI and CIA instead of foreign media and some random internet dude that might well be a russian spy. It's like my turkish colleague that still insists that Erdogan is the best thing ever happened to Turkey since Atatürk because the Turkish government say so.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-10/4chan-claims-have-fabricated-anti-trump-report-hoax

 Kaw wrote: 
Thanks but I'll pass. Who knew that Hillary engendered such passion in the Dutch, though!


It's down to the clogs or the herring, fer sure. 

 kcar wrote: 
Even the furiously pro-Hillary websites in the Netherlands are taking a different direction here. With google translate you should be able to deceiver the following: http://nos.nl/artikel/2152438-we-moeten-een-kolossale-slag-om-de-arm-houden.html

 Kaw wrote: 
Strangely, I'm going to trust the conclusions of the intelligence agencies and ODNI on this one. The classified report apparently has more evidence than the publicly released one. 

And I'm sorry, but if you think the news about the DNC hacks and apparent Russian intel on Trump amounts to a witch-hunt, you've forgotten in record time the stink about Hillary's private email server. Apparently the GOP leadership has too! 

Not sure that you can say that the CIA or FBI ever tried to get rid of a President. The FBI while working under Hoover kept files with damaging information on all sorts of politicians but never caused any President to resign or forego a second term. 

People keep speculating that Trump will be impeached, but let's remember that the vote to impeach starts in the House of Representatives. That crowd of tear-down-the-government yahoos isn't going to kill the goose that sprayed the golden shower. 

Trump is a complete idiot and he is competing for worse president ever, but the witch hunt is getting ridiculous. There is still no clear evidence that Russia hacked and influenced the elections. There is only the story that there is evidence. Instead of showing that evidence there is now a decoy. Again a story, but now about Trump and his misbehaviour in Moscow. The CIA and FBI are really trying to get rid of Trump and they use an old trick of making up stories supported by conveniently secret evidence.

 Steely_D wrote: 


Hey, maybe The Donald thought he was Zeus, who took the form of (wait for it) a golden shower and impregnated Danaë. Zeus had quite a list of conquests...no word if he was a pussy-grabber, though. 

 Steely_D wrote:  

There should be an RP betting pool to see how long it'll take right-leaning people to wish HRC had won instead of Trump. I don't know if kurtster* will ever change his mind, but based on the race to destroy and not-replace the ACA I think there'll be quite a bit of buyer's remorse walking around in the next year or two.

* No disrespect intended, kurtster. Just saying you're a man of very strong convictions. I don't agree with some of them but you're entitled to your opinions. Hope everything's working out with the new cat.

 

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
Look, in the back. Is that a golden shower?

 kcar wrote: 
But, hey. He's not Hillary Clinton.

(Seriously, that excuse is so played out and irrelevant...) 

 Steely_D wrote: 

Is that the rumor? Paying to watch a woman pee? What a sad little fetish for The Donald. His wives/mistresses/girlfriends likely would have done it for free if he'd been nicer to them. Putin must be laughing his ass off at his new "friend." Dubya looks positively statesmanlike in comparison at this point, and Trump hasn't even been sworn in. 

I have a strong feeling that the next four years are going to be filled with deflating revelations of Trumpers' stupidity, buffoonery, and failure. What a sharp contrast with Obama's intelligence, class and accomplishments. 

 ScottFromWyoming wrote: 
And I wouldn't put it past folks to think it's tit for tat for the "He's a Muslim" "He's a socialist" etc that - although debunked - dogged what's his name for 8 years.

 Steely_D wrote: 
 
 
As a few people have already pointed out, the information may be bogus, the leaker (no pun intended) may have motives, but nobody is saying it's out of character.