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Proclivities
Location: Paris of the Piedmont
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black321 wrote: steeler wrote:I have to respond to this. This is the political/governmental version of a bogeyman, a specter that cannot be adequately disproven because it is akin to proving a negative. So we have the specter of this covert group of professional government types who wield power from within the nooks and crannies of the federal government without accountability and disproportionate to their station in the government. This is the Trump schtick. I am being opposed by sinister forces, largely unknown to the public, because I am seeking to disrupt their monopoly, to expose these proverbial cockroaches by bringing them into the light. I am the people's champion and anyone opposed to me or my agenda most assuredly is part of this conspiracy. I dont believe in some organized effort either...on the other hand, we do have an aggregate of individuals focused on their own self-interests, and increasingly acting without consideration that the other side has a valid point, let alone worthy of the air they breathe...so when a common enemy pops up (like Trump), the ugliness of it all comes floating to the top. I agree about the "aggregate" as you call it, many of whom are entrenched and largely self-interested, and that exists (even more perhaps) in state-level governments. Whether or not there is an organized "shadow government" is another matter, but it suits Trump's narrative. At any rate, much ugliness has been floating around lately.
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black321
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steeler wrote:I have to respond to this. This is the political/governmental version of a bogeyman, a specter that cannot be adequately disproven because it is akin to proving a negative. So we have the specter of this covert group of professional government types who wield power from within the nooks and crannies of the federal government without accountability and disproportionate to their station in the government. This is the Trump schtick. I am being opposed by sinister forces, largely unknown to the public, because I am seeking to disrupt their monopoly, to expose these proverbial cockroaches by bringing them into the light. I am the people's champion and anyone opposed to me or my agenda most assuredly is part of this conspiracy. I dont believe in some organized effort either...on the other hand, we do have an aggregate of individuals focused on their own self-interests, and increasingly acting without consideration that the other side has a valid point, let alone worthy of the air they breathe...so when a common enemy pops up (like Trump), the ugliness of it all comes floating to the top.
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ScottN
Location: Half inch above the K/T boundary
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Jun 8, 2017 - 9:53am |
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Proclivities wrote: steeler wrote:I have to respond to this. This is the political/governmental version of a bogeyman, a specter that cannot be adequately disproven because it is akin to proving a negative. So we have the specter of this covert group of professional government types who wield power from within the nooks and crannies of the federal government without accountability and disproportionate to their station in the government. This is the Trump schtick. I am being opposed by sinister forces, largely unknown to the public, because I am seeking to disrupt their monopoly, to expose these proverbial cockroaches by bringing them into the light. I am the people's champion and anyone opposed to me or my agenda most assuredly is part of this conspiracy. ...as scripted by Steve Bannon (with assistance from Alex Jones). And, the single "guiding principle" that I have observed Trump both say and follow is "never apologize".
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Proclivities
Location: Paris of the Piedmont
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Jun 8, 2017 - 9:45am |
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steeler wrote:I have to respond to this. This is the political/governmental version of a bogeyman, a specter that cannot be adequately disproven because it is akin to proving a negative. So we have the specter of this covert group of professional government types who wield power from within the nooks and crannies of the federal government without accountability and disproportionate to their station in the government. This is the Trump schtick. I am being opposed by sinister forces, largely unknown to the public, because I am seeking to disrupt their monopoly, to expose these proverbial cockroaches by bringing them into the light. I am the people's champion and anyone opposed to me or my agenda most assuredly is part of this conspiracy. ...as scripted by Steve Bannon (with assistance from Alex Jones).
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steeler
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
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Jun 8, 2017 - 9:39am |
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kurtster wrote:
This leads back to the Deep State, of which I need no additional convincing that it exists and is a threat to all Americans.
But the DS is the friend and ally of those who wish to remove Trump from office and its sinister side is ignored in an end justifies the means approach.
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I have to respond to this. This is the political/governmental version of a bogeyman, a specter that cannot be adequately disproven because it is akin to proving a negative. So we have the specter of this covert group of professional government types who wield power from within the nooks and crannies of the federal government without accountability and disproportionate to their station in the government. This is the Trump schtick. I am being opposed by sinister forces, largely unknown to the public, because I am seeking to disrupt their monopoly, to expose these proverbial cockroaches by bringing them into the light. I am the people's champion and anyone opposed to me or my agenda most assuredly is part of this conspiracy.
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kurtster
Location: where fear is not a virtue
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Jun 8, 2017 - 9:13am |
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miamizsun wrote:
my big concern isn't whether trump is roped in on a technicality or nutty rule
it's the tools that are available to him or any other politician and how they'll be used
if he survives and i think that's likely and he gets "loyal" people in place, what happens?
ego, revenge, power and secrecy
what could wrong?
i just don't trust these folks to act responsibly
This leads back to the Deep State, of which I need no additional convincing that it exists and is a threat to all Americans. But the DS is the friend and ally of those who wish to remove Trump from office and its sinister side is ignored in an end justifies the means approach. 2¢ ...
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ScottN
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Jun 8, 2017 - 7:34am |
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miamizsun wrote:
my big concern isn't whether trump is roped in on a technicality or nutty rule
Happens all the time that a criminal will be charged with a lesser crime...think back to Al Capone.
it's the tools that are available to him or any other politician and how they'll be used
In this case, what is the pronoun "It's" ?
if he survives and i think that's likely and he gets "loyal" people in place, what happens?
He brought on loyal people, or so he thought. He can't successfully replace them now, much less later.
ego, revenge, power and secrecy
Status quo in politics, since...forever.
what could wrong?
The inference of "everything" is why this is such a national stressor.
i just don't trust these folks to act responsibly
I agree. The role/rule of money, behind the scenes, will govern the outcome, imo.
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miamizsun
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Jun 8, 2017 - 6:44am |
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haresfur wrote:
Comey wasn't being a very good cop IMO. He should have engaged Trump to remove the ambiguity. The response to, "Do you like your job?" should have been, "Yes, what do I need to do to keep it?"
Surely he knows how to question people, gather evidence, and build a case. I can only think he didn't want to go there, even though he obviously didn't trust Trump.
my big concern isn't whether trump is roped in on a technicality or nutty rule it's the tools that are available to him or any other politician and how they'll be used if he survives and i think that's likely and he gets "loyal" people in place, what happens? ego, revenge, power and secrecy what could wrong? i just don't trust these folks to act responsibly
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haresfur
Location: The Golden Triangle
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Jun 8, 2017 - 6:25am |
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miamizsun wrote:after some light reading i'm guessing and agreeing with a few who have parsed the comey statement that after the smoke clears the overall verdict here will be "stupid but not criminal"
we'll see
Comey wasn't being a very good cop IMO. He should have engaged Trump to remove the ambiguity. The response to, "Do you like your job?" should have been, "Yes, what do I need to do to keep it?" Surely he knows how to question people, gather evidence, and build a case. I can only think he didn't want to go there, even though he obviously didn't trust Trump.
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aflanigan
Location: At Sea
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Jun 8, 2017 - 6:08am |
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miamizsun wrote:after some light reading i'm guessing and agreeing with a few who have parsed the comey statement that after the smoke clears the overall verdict here will be "stupid but not criminal"
we'll see
I think most of what I've read says that the issue with obstruction is that you have to establish intent. Seems like the facts and circumstances that are slowly being revealed are making it easier to come to such a legal conclusion. Do Comey's Revelations Show Obstruction of Justice?
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aflanigan
Location: At Sea
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Jun 8, 2017 - 6:04am |
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ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Hey, not to change the subject, but your From Russia With Love shirt is a rarity: Only about 5 in the world. I took it down today because Amazon is getting out the banhammer for things that they think are copyright risks. That one is clearly a parody and would be legal, but Amazon doesn't like paying lawyers, and Trump does, and the movie industry does. So just to be safe, I pulled it down.
Cool. I don't own many rare things (other than my exquisite and rare sense of male fashion) 
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miamizsun
Location: (3283.1 Miles SE of RP)
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Jun 8, 2017 - 4:29am |
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after some light reading i'm guessing and agreeing with a few who have parsed the comey statement that after the smoke clears the overall verdict here will be "stupid but not criminal"
we'll see
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Steely_D
Location: At the dude ranch / above the sea
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Jun 7, 2017 - 5:11pm |
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Red_Dragon
Location: Gilead
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Jun 7, 2017 - 2:47pm |
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ScottFromWyoming wrote:
Hey, not to change the subject, but your From Russia With Love shirt is a rarity: Only about 5 in the world. I took it down today because Amazon is getting out the banhammer for things that they think are copyright risks. That one is clearly a parody and would be legal, but Amazon doesn't like paying lawyers, and Trump does, and the movie industry does. So just to be safe, I pulled it down.
I'll treasure it always.
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ScottFromWyoming
Location: Powell
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Jun 7, 2017 - 2:45pm |
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Red_Dragon wrote: Hey, not to change the subject, but your From Russia With Love shirt is a rarity: Only about 5 in the world. I took it down today because Amazon is getting out the banhammer for things that they think are copyright risks. That one is clearly a parody and would be legal, but Amazon doesn't like paying lawyers, and Trump does, and the movie industry does. So just to be safe, I pulled it down.
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Red_Dragon
Location: Gilead
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Jun 7, 2017 - 2:06pm |
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sirdroseph
Location: Not here, I tell you wat
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Jun 7, 2017 - 12:06pm |
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black321 wrote: Proclivities wrote:
True, it certainly got worse for many people, but overall it improved and there was not the cataclysm that many predicted. (What ever happened to Ron Paul anyhow?)
Eh, we just borrowed our way out of it...national debt heading towards $20 trillion, $61,000 per citizen or over $165,000 per taxpayer. Not including another $3.1 trillion in state and local debt (another $10k per citizen), plus personal debt...So Ron Paul's arguments are still valid. But that's not a big deal, let's go back to arguing about Russian conspiracies and other headlines of the day. lol You alright with me.
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Proclivities
Location: Paris of the Piedmont
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Jun 7, 2017 - 10:50am |
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black321 wrote: Proclivities wrote:
True, it certainly got worse for many people, but overall it improved and there was not the cataclysm that many predicted. (What ever happened to Ron Paul anyhow?)
Eh, we just borrowed our way out of it...national debt heading towards $20 trillion, $61,000 per citizen or over $165,000 per taxpayer. Not including another $3.1 trillion in state and local debt (another $10k per citizen), plus personal debt...So Ron Paul's arguments are still valid. But that's not a big deal, let's go back to arguing about Russian conspiracies and other headlines of the day. True, true, I was in the wrong thread for that discussion.
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black321
Location: An earth without maps
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Jun 7, 2017 - 10:26am |
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Proclivities wrote:
True, it certainly got worse for many people, but overall it improved and there was not the cataclysm that many predicted. (What ever happened to Ron Paul anyhow?)
Eh, we just borrowed our way out of it...national debt heading towards $20 trillion, $61,000 per citizen or over $165,000 per taxpayer. Not including another $3.1 trillion in state and local debt (another $10k per citizen), plus personal debt...So Ron Paul's arguments are still valid. But that's not a big deal, let's go back to arguing about Russian conspiracies and other headlines of the day.
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Proclivities
Location: Paris of the Piedmont
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Jun 7, 2017 - 9:18am |
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cc_rider wrote:
I think a lot of that depends which side of the wealth/income divide you're on. But in general you're right.
True, it certainly got worse for many people, but overall it improved and there was not the cataclysm that many predicted. (What ever happened to Ron Paul anyhow?)
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