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Posted: Jan 31, 2017 - 11:01am

 Red_Dragon wrote:
That position is sometimes held by the Chief of Staff but not always (e.g. Rove = "Bush's brain"). At this point there are still two opposite ways to interpret Trump's moves.

Weak and Incompetent Leaders act like Strong Leaders Tom Pepinsky.(via Naked Capitalism)


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Posted: Jan 31, 2017 - 10:19am

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...
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Posted: Jan 31, 2017 - 4:57am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

yep, that ties in pretty much perfectly with what I think is happening. These guys are reading from a copybook drawn up by the National Socialists in Germany in the 30s. Duly elected, they went on to gut state institutions and instil a regime of fear (with us or against us) purging all state apparatus of any one particular officer who wasn't towing the party line. No, I am not talking about the holocaust or genocide (yet).. it is bad enough to see the land of the free gutted from the inside like this and more frightening to see it happen so easily. 

Whatever agenda these guys are following I simply can't square it with the picture I have of freedom and liberty.

 
i'm not a randian by any stretch,but i have read some objectivist stuff and watched a few films

and it's no surprise that i have some serious philosophical disagreements with some of the material

however some of the pieces i read i thought were somewhat relative

here's something (an observation) from peikoff in 1982

i also know it's not as important who penned it as what it said

have a look
The Oninous parallels by Leonard Peikoff 
Each of the philosophic principles essential to the rise of Nazism in Germany has a counterpart in present-day America.
Is the freest country on earth moving toward totalitarian dictatorship? What were the factors that enabled the Nazis to seize power in pre-war Germany? Do those same conditions exist in America today? These are the questions raised — and answered, with frightening clarity — by Leonard Peikoff, Ayn Rand's intellectual heir, in his powerful book The Ominous Parallels. ominous parallels book cover"We are drifting to the future, not moving purposefully," Peikoff warns. "But we are drifting as Germany moved, in the same direction, for the same kind of reason." Some of the "ominous parallels" between pre-Hitler Germany and the United States that Peikoff identifies are:
  • Liberals who demand public control over the use and disposal of private property — social security, more taxes, more government control over the energy industry, medicine, broadcasting, etc.
  • Conservatives who demand government control over our intellectual and moral life — prayer in the schools, literary censorship, government intervention in the teaching of biology, the anti-abortion movement, etc.
  • Political parties devoid of principles or direction and moved at random by pressure groups, each demanding still more controls.
  • A "progressive," anti-intellectual educational system that, from kindergarten to graduate school, creates students who can't read or write — students brainwashed into the feeling that their minds are helpless and they must adapt to "society," that there is no absolute truth and that morality is whatever society says it is.
  • A student radical movement (from the 1960's through the violent anti-nukers and ecology fanatics of today) who are, Peikoff maintains, the "pre-Hitler youth movement resurrected." The radicals are nature worshippers who attack the middle class, science, technology, and business.
  • The rise of defiant old-world racial hatreds disguised as "ethnic-identity" movements and "affirmative action."
  • A pervasive atmosphere of decadence, moral bankruptcy, and nihilist art accompanied by the rise of escapist mystic cults of every kind — astrology, "alternative medicine," Orientalists, extrasensory perception, etc.
In an introduction to Peikoff's book, Ayn Rand describes The Ominous Parallels as, "the first book by an Objectivist philosopher other than myself" and goes on to say that, "If you do not wish to be a victim of today's philosophical bankruptcy, I recommend The Ominous Parallels as protection and ammunition. It will protect you from supporting, unwittingly, the ideas that are destroying you and the world."

 In brilliantly reasoned prose, Peikoff argues that the deepest roots of German Nazism lie not in existential crises, but in ideas — not in Germany's military defeat in World War I or the economic disasters of the Weimar Republic that followed, but in the philosophy that dominated pre-Nazi Germany. Although it was mediated by crises, Peikoff demonstrates that German Nazism was the inevitable climax of a centuries-long philosophic development, preaching three fundamental ideas: the worship of unreason, the demand for self-sacrifice and the elevation of society or the state above the individual.

"These ideas," Peikoff says, "are the essence of Nazism and they are exactly what our leading universities are now spreading throughout this country. This is the basic cause of all the other parallels."

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Posted: Jan 31, 2017 - 4:55am

President Trump's ‘voter fraud expert’ is registered to vote in three states
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Posted: Jan 30, 2017 - 10:21pm

 kurtster wrote:

I am not one to avoid answering straight questions from someone who asks them in that way as you usually do with me.  But at this point in time I feel that what I have said about Trump over the past year or so is pretty clear and that anything more that I could say wouldn't matter, be well received or make any difference in discussions here.

Now and for the foreseeable future I feel that few here want to hear anything good about Trump or from people who support him.  I am exhausted by the events of the past week and am just going to sit back and watch things unfold.  I will say I am still happy with Trump for the most part, still optimistic about things to come and no buyer's remorse yet.  

I can make better use of my time now working on my music projects instead of worrying about Trump.

for now ... 

 
You're a peach Jimmy.
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Posted: Jan 30, 2017 - 8:55pm

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
kurtster wrote:

Nope, a reconstruction / repurposing of our current government, avoiding chaos that would come without it before it completely fails.

You and many others only see gloom and doom coming with Trump in charge.  I see change for the good coming, for the first time in ages.

Is there something wrong with putting the needs and security of  American citizens in the front of the line within our own borders ?  

Please describe the good you see.. not many others say see much at all. What do you mean by the good?

 
I am not one to avoid answering straight questions from someone who asks them in that way as you usually do with me.  But at this point in time I feel that what I have said about Trump over the past year or so is pretty clear and that anything more that I could say wouldn't matter, be well received or make any difference in discussions here.

Now and for the foreseeable future I feel that few here want to hear anything good about Trump or from people who support him.  I am exhausted by the events of the past week and am just going to sit back and watch things unfold.  I will say I am still happy with Trump for the most part, still optimistic about things to come and no buyer's remorse yet.  

I can make better use of my time now working on my music projects instead of worrying about Trump.

for now ... 


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Posted: Jan 30, 2017 - 7:39pm

Chris Wallace behaves like a real journalist.

"KellyAnn. Do you understand how offensive that is?"

 


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Posted: Jan 30, 2017 - 7:28pm

 R_P wrote:

They Li(v)e

 

{#Roflol}{#Clap}{#Notworthy}

"OBEY THE ORANGE WOTSIT"  {#Roflol} all week

What you'e seeing, ladies and gentlemen, is Trump crashing headlong into his ignorance about the workings of the federal government, its laws and yes even the Constitution. Who knew that we'd see a variation on "The Saturday Night Massacre" so soon into Trump's administration.

This is what happens when the clueless old angry drunk from your neighborhood bar gets to run your country. No, Trump isn't a drunk...he just acts that way.  


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Posted: Jan 30, 2017 - 6:59pm

Trump fires acting attorney general in rift over immigration order

WASHINGTON — President Trump fired Acting Attorney General Sally Yates Monday night after the Obama holdover refused to defend his controversial refugee ban in court.

Yates said Monday that she will not defend in court the president’s executive order that suspends immigration from seven majority-Muslim countries. Three hours later, the White House announced that she had been relieved of her duties.

"Ms. Yates is an Obama administration appointee who is weak on borders and very weak on illegal immigration," said a statement from the White House that appeared to be in Trump's own voice.

Trump appointed Dana Boente, the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, to serve as acting attorney general until his nominee, Sen. Jeff Sessions, can be confirmed by the Senate. The Senate Judiciary Committee has scheduled a Tuesday vote on Sessions, who has closely advised Trump on immigration matters.


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Posted: Jan 30, 2017 - 6:28pm

so what's with the generic Conway clip? {#Ask}
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Posted: Jan 30, 2017 - 6:15pm

 R_P wrote:

They Li(v)e

 
Thanks for guaranteeing that I have nightmares tonight {#Lol}
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Posted: Jan 30, 2017 - 5:43pm


They Li(v)e
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Posted: Jan 30, 2017 - 4:32pm

 haresfur wrote:

Kind of irrelevant since the new regime is coming. I would like to see them defend the order but do a crap job of it.

 
Yeah, this will last only until the monster fires her, but...
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Posted: Jan 30, 2017 - 4:24pm

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
Kind of irrelevant since the new regime is coming. I would like to see them defend the order but do a crap job of it.
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Posted: Jan 30, 2017 - 4:02pm

Acting Attorney General declares Justice Department won’t defend Trump’s immigration order
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Posted: Jan 30, 2017 - 12:37pm



The college paper wasn't too fond of Sean Spicer
 
After he went nuts on them, the campus "satire" paper let him have it...
 
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Posted: Jan 30, 2017 - 11:38am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

yep, that ties in pretty much perfectly with what I think is happening. These guys are reading from a copybook drawn up by the National Socialists in Germany in the 30s. Duly elected, they went on to gut state institutions and instil a regime of fear (with us or against us) purging all state apparatus of any one particular officer who wasn't towing the party line. No, I am not talking about the holocaust or genocide (yet).. it is bad enough to see the land of the free gutted from the inside like this and more frightening to see it happen so easily. 

Whatever agenda these guys are following I simply can't square it with the picture I have of freedom and liberty.

 
This was foreshadowed by the tacit acceptance of people saying "Second Amendment Remedies" out loud and being congratulated on their patriotism.
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Posted: Jan 30, 2017 - 11:38am

 NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:

yep, that ties in pretty much perfectly with what I think is happening. These guys are reading from a copybook drawn up by the National Socialists in Germany in the 30s. Duly elected, they went on to gut state institutions and instil a regime of fear (with us or against us) purging all state apparatus of any one particular officer who wasn't towing the party line. No, I am not talking about the holocaust or genocide (yet).. it is bad enough to see the land of the free gutted from the inside like this and more frightening to see it happen so easily. 

Whatever agenda these guys are following I simply can't square it with the picture I have of freedom and liberty.

 
In a 1990 Vanity Fair had an article about Trump's divorce from Ivana. It says he kept Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order in his bedside table. Very Telling
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Posted: Jan 30, 2017 - 10:48am

 Red_Dragon wrote: 
yep, that ties in pretty much perfectly with what I think is happening. These guys are reading from a copybook drawn up by the National Socialists in Germany in the 30s. Duly elected, they went on to gut state institutions and instil a regime of fear (with us or against us) purging all state apparatus of any one particular officer who wasn't towing the party line. No, I am not talking about the holocaust or genocide (yet).. it is bad enough to see the land of the free gutted from the inside like this and more frightening to see it happen so easily. 

Whatever agenda these guys are following I simply can't square it with the picture I have of freedom and liberty.
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Posted: Jan 30, 2017 - 10:09am

Trial Balloon for a Coup?
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