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Posted: Jul 16, 2011 - 10:30am

 fidget wrote:
{#Eek} {#Stupid}
 
...or not.
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Posted: Jul 16, 2011 - 10:25am

 Umberdog wrote:

Perhaps the British just enjoy telling Americans how screwed up we are.
 
{#Eek} {#Stupid}

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Posted: Jul 16, 2011 - 10:21am

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Yes. ironic when one considers that the Beeb is a government outlet in itself.
 
Perhaps the British just enjoy telling Americans how screwed up we are.
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Posted: Jul 16, 2011 - 9:26am

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  Studio version w/band


 



 
 
Good for Billy!
 
Plus, why Scousers won't buy The Sun


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Posted: Jul 16, 2011 - 9:10am

 kurtster wrote:

Yes. ironic when one considers that the Beeb is a government outlet in itself.
 
Nope, it's not at all.



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Posted: Jul 16, 2011 - 8:34am



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Posted: Jul 16, 2011 - 4:21am

 Umberdog wrote:
I don't think there are any REAL news networks in the US. I get most of my news via the BBC. I have to resort to an overseas news agency to learn about what's REALLY going on here because the news here is politically biased and/or on the take. There seem a bit of irony in this.

 
Yes. ironic when one considers that the Beeb is a government outlet in itself.

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Posted: Jul 15, 2011 - 9:08pm

I don't think there are any REAL news networks in the US. I get most of my news via the BBC. I have to resort to an overseas news agency to learn about what's REALLY going on here because the news here is politically biased and/or on the take. There seem a bit of irony in this.


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Posted: Jul 15, 2011 - 8:17pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Barrasso (FYT) is an interesting guy. For years he hosted a 2-minute health thing on the TV, wrote a column for the state papers, etc. and was generally regarded pretty well. He got appointed to fill in the remainder of Craig Thomas' term and really hit the ground running. Accomplished a lot and was very active and proactive for Wyoming issues. He won the seat to complete the term outright very easily, and at some point totally abandoned his independent streak. I liked him for his first six months, was kind of "okay that's not like you" for the next year or two and for the last year at least he's been assimilated. He says things that even make Wyoming people blanch, and is bragging about how *some organization* has labeled him the "most conservative member of the senate." Well that makes you a fringe element, John.
 
I assume he's playing his cards so that he'll get appointed to a leadership position or something, which Al Simpson did, and that spelled the end of Al's ability to buck the party too. (Of course once out of that position, Al went back to being Al
 
Barrasso's a nice guy, well-spoken, but he's playing to a small audience the way he's going for the ultras. Even in Wyoming that won't endear him to many. Oh he'll still win, of course, the state's tilted 70-30 toward the GOP. Dammit. 

 
Thanks, wasn't sure of his name.

Seemed to be ok, although never seen him in any format before.  Can't add anything more other than he didn't hurt himself speaking.  After watching it, it was a decent and civil discussion on the topics of the debt, trust in government and how to become more bipartisan.  The questions posed were very direct with quick thinking required to answer.  The end was a panel of 10 or 12 repub women representitives, so that was weighted to be sure.

Coburn of OK was after Barrasso,  It was more than talking points.  The beginning of each segment was kicked off by Luntz, after that the direction was clearly in response to questions, not a predetermined script.

I was glad to see it, serious questions asked and answered civily.  During the speakers responses, the audience had meters to react to the speaker, showing curves by D and R.  Most interesting.  This is the second one of this type I have seen and it was as good or better than the first.

If you got a DVR, give it a shot.  Its not a waste of time.  We need more of this.  On again in 45 minutes.

{#Cheers} 

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Posted: Jul 15, 2011 - 8:11pm

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Oh, and see if you can find video of The Daily Show covering the News Of The World hacking story, can't find any links from here anymore. Priceless. "Schadenfreudegasm".
 


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Posted: Jul 15, 2011 - 7:48pm

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Not ignoring all the stuff going on with Murdoch in the UK.

But, if you want to see a real Town Hall meeting, with spontaneous questions and answers from members of both parties, hold your nose and tune into Hannity.  One hour of Frank Luntz hosting so far McCarthy (R) Ca.  Bennet (D) Co, Barrasso MD (R) Wy and more to come.

Its half over now , but on again 12 eastern 9 pacific.  I don't care which side you are on, all will benefit from seeing it.  Both parties are participating and the questions are real.

{#Meditate}

 
Barrasso (FYT) is an interesting guy. For years he hosted a 2-minute health thing on the TV, wrote a column for the state papers, etc. and was generally regarded pretty well. He got appointed to fill in the remainder of Craig Thomas' term and really hit the ground running. Accomplished a lot and was very active and proactive for Wyoming issues. He won the seat to complete the term outright very easily, and at some point totally abandoned his independent streak. I liked him for his first six months, was kind of "okay that's not like you" for the next year or two and for the last year at least he's been assimilated. He says things that even make Wyoming people blanch, and is bragging about how *some organization* has labeled him the "most conservative member of the senate." Well that makes you a fringe element, John.
 
I assume he's playing his cards so that he'll get appointed to a leadership position or something, which Al Simpson did, and that spelled the end of Al's ability to buck the party too. (Of course once out of that position, Al went back to being Al
 
Barrasso's a nice guy, well-spoken, but he's playing to a small audience the way he's going for the ultras. Even in Wyoming that won't endear him to many. Oh he'll still win, of course, the state's tilted 70-30 toward the GOP. Dammit. 
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Posted: Jul 15, 2011 - 6:32pm

Not ignoring all the stuff going on with Murdoch in the UK.

But, if you want to see a real Town Hall meeting, with spontaneous questions and answers from members of both parties, hold your nose and tune into Hannity.  One hour of Frank Luntz hosting so far McCarthy (R) Ca.  Bennet (D) Co, Rosso MD (R) Wy and more to come.

Its half over now , but on again 12 eastern 9 pacific.  I don't care which side you are on, all will benefit from seeing it.  Both parties are participating and the questions are real.

{#Meditate}


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Posted: Jul 15, 2011 - 5:58pm

You guys really need to follow The Guardian - they've been battling to get this out for years, and it's all down to them. Have a look around here to see what's going on. It's compulsive stuff - the greatest UK political story ever. Carl Bernstein approves.
 
And it is heading your way, Les Hinton resigns at the drop of a hat. Murdoch man for 52 years, right-hand man. Why? 9/11 hacking? Could it be something worse?
 
Oh, and see if you can find video of The Daily Show covering the News Of The World hacking story, can't find any links from here anymore. Priceless. "Schadenfreudegasm".

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Posted: Jul 15, 2011 - 5:48pm

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Look, they said they were sorry. And they fired a whole bunch of people whose only connection to the scandal was working for the company that did it. Besides, look over there! Hackers! Bad! See? Bad hackers, accessing information they have no right to and hurting innocent.people. Bad! Not like us fair and balanced folk, crusading against the liberal media in a fair and balanced way. Look at the bad hackers, Dick! Look at the bad hackers, Jane! Look look look! Bad bad bad!
 
Oh, hackers that work for our parent company? Never mind that! Look what Obama's done to the economy!


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Posted: Jul 15, 2011 - 5:46pm

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Oh well, that's alright then.
 
So according to Fox News (Prop. R Murdoch) If your murdered young daughters' mobile was hacked and messages deleted to make more space in her inbox for new messages so that News International (Prop. R Murdoch) can get to listen to more messages from her family and friends trying to find her, thus raising hopes with her family that she might still be alive, you can't blame Murdoch or News Corps or News International because SHE DIDN'T LOOK AFTER HER OWN SECURITY.
 
Christ on a bike, how bad does it need to be?
 


Look, they said they were sorry. And they fired a whole bunch of people whose only connection to the scandal was working for the company that did it.

Besides, look over there! Hackers! Bad! See? Bad hackers, accessing information they have no right to and hurting innocent.people. Bad! Not like us fair and balanced folk, crusading against the liberal media in a fair and balanced way. Look at the bad hackers, Dick! Look at the bad hackers, Jane! Look look look! Bad bad bad!
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Posted: Jul 15, 2011 - 5:31pm

 ScottFromWyoming wrote:

Watch them pooh-pooh the whole thing...
 
 

 
Oh well, that's alright then.
 
So according to Fox News (Prop. R Murdoch) If your murdered young daughters' mobile was hacked and messages deleted to make more space in her inbox for new messages so that News International (Prop. R Murdoch) can get to listen to more messages from her family and friends trying to find her, thus raising hopes with her family that she might still be alive, you can't blame Murdoch or News Corps or News International because SHE DIDN'T LOOK AFTER HER OWN SECURITY.
 
Christ on a bike, how bad does it need to be?

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Posted: Jul 15, 2011 - 4:59pm

When will these people learn to secure their websites for crying out loud?
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Posted: Jul 15, 2011 - 4:53pm

 hobiejoe wrote:
Batten down the hatches lads, there be a storm a-brewing......
 
Watch them pooh-pooh the whole thing...
 
 
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Posted: Jul 15, 2011 - 4:40pm

Batten down the hatches lads, there be a storm a-brewing......
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Posted: Jul 2, 2011 - 11:21am

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