Mostly, all the emotion driving this has absolutely nothing to do with Kavanaugh. It's 100% politically motivated. As Senator Susan Collins said in her speech on the floor regarding her vote, opposition to this nomination by what ever means possible was declared by democrats before his name was even announced.
See: Merrick Garland. What was it, exactly, that McConnell said was the proudest moment of his life?
Most amusing of all: you've been rooting for a judge who from birth has been a silver-spoon member of the DC elite establishment you detest so much. And his allegiance to greater Executive branch power will likely mean that Kavanaugh's ruling on national issues are going to screw over people like you.
My little excursion into the ins and outs of eyewear was dealing with an image that really bothered me and I expanded on it. Like you mentioned earlier it was best left alone. But I was accused of having little regard for women and was stereo typing a woman. My stereo typical vision of a woman is Barbie. Quite the dog whistle for sexist / misogynist. Being a Trump supporter, it's only consistent and must be true ... So I proceeded to address that and defend myself.
I mentioned how people brand themselves with their glasses. That is what Kennedy is doing with her's. Sally Jessy Raphael did the same with her red glasses. And architect I M Pei ... So enough about glasses and on to your last thought.
No I have not been rooting for Kavanaugh. I've been rooting for two of the foundations of our society, due process and the presumption of innocence. Nearly everyone here has said that the presumption of innocence only applies to those being tried for criminal offenses. I strongly disagree and say that it applies to our social fabric and culture, not just in court. It is unconditional and without it, we as a society become nothing more than an angry mob with a rope looking for the closest tree.
Who here believes that Kavanaugh is not a serial sexual predator or a gang rapist ? And look at the evidence y'all have used to come to this conclusion. Nothing has been corroborated, nothing. Not even a preponderance of evidence, the lowest standard. The burden of proof still falls upon the accuser. Give me something that meets even the lowest standard, then I will agree. Until then, innocence must be assumed. It's not perfect, but it is the only thing keeping us from throwing ropes over tree limbs in moments of emotion. And the SCOTUS is the place where this applies more than anywhere else.
Mostly, all the emotion driving this has absolutely nothing to do with Kavanaugh. It's 100% politically motivated. As Senator Susan Collins said in her speech on the floor regarding her vote, opposition to this nomination by what ever means possible was declared by democrats before his name was even announced.
kurtster wrote: "Prof. Ford could have done a whole lot more to help herself make a good first impression. This is a case of the messenger getting in the way of the message. I could go on and offer up a profile on her based upon her glasses coupled with her demeanor during her testimony that would be much more right than wrong, imho. But it is not what is needed at this point in time."
And yet you've gotten well underway into such a profile, even though you claim "it is not what is needed at this time." You wrote:
A person's glasses says a lot about the person behind them ...
It's been bugging me since the beginning of this stuff.
Especially since cost is not a limiting factor in this case.
Her glasses are a huge red flag to me ... she has issues ...
When I first saw pictures and video of Dr. Ford's testimony, it struck me that her glasses were too large for her face. But here's the deal: there are no universal standards or measures of excellence when it comes to fashion or tastes. Western civ figured that out hundreds of years ago: De gustibus non disputandum est (Concerning tastes there can be no dispute). You think Kennedy's glasses look good on her—I don't. Also: unless you think that your profile of Ford has relevance to the truthfulness or substance of her testimony, it's not worth discussing. Congrats on trying to steer the conversation away from Brett Kavanaugh. Your posts on her glasses are like criticisms about Abraham Lincoln's tie when he gave the Gettysburg Address:
Oh my God, that sloppy bow tie..."Four Score and.." what did he say? So many issues here.
Most amusing of all: you've been rooting for a judge who from birth has been a silver-spoon member of the DC elite establishment you detest so much. And his allegiance to greater Executive branch power will likely mean that Kavanaugh's ruling on national issues are going to screw over people like you.
He obviously missed his calling; he could have been a famous, well-paid profiler with his amazing skills. Sad.
kurtster wrote: "Prof. Ford could have done a whole lot more to help herself make a good first impression. This is a case of the messenger getting in the way of the message. I could go on and offer up a profile on her based upon her glasses coupled with her demeanor during her testimony that would be much more right than wrong, imho. But it is not what is needed at this point in time."
And yet you've gotten well underway into such a profile, even though you claim "it is not what is needed at this time." You wrote:
A person's glasses says a lot about the person behind them ...
It's been bugging me since the beginning of this stuff.
Especially since cost is not a limiting factor in this case.
Her glasses are a huge red flag to me ... she has issues ...
When I first saw pictures and video of Dr. Ford's testimony, it struck me that her glasses were too large for her face. But here's the deal: there are no universal standards or measures of excellence when it comes to fashion or tastes. Western civ figured that out hundreds of years ago: De gustibus non disputandum est (Concerning tastes there can be no dispute). You think Kennedy's glasses look good on her—I don't.
Also: unless you think that your profile of Ford has relevance to the truthfulness or substance of her testimony, it's not worth discussing. Congrats on trying to steer the conversation away from Brett Kavanaugh. Your posts on her glasses are like criticisms about Abraham Lincoln's tie when he gave the Gettysburg Address:
Oh my God, that sloppy bow tie..."Four Score and.." what did he say? So many issues here.
Most amusing of all: you've been rooting for a judge who from birth has been a silver-spoon member of the DC elite establishment you detest so much. And his allegiance to greater Executive branch power will likely mean that Kavanaugh's ruling on national issues are going to screw over people like you.
We'll have to wait for Kurtster to pass judgement on the rest of her outfit. I know it's not really his profession, but he has been wearing pants for most of his life. He's surely qualified to score her testimony based on the origins of her fibers.
And did you see her shoes?
Ghastly!
Unnamed sources close to the subject have claimed she also wasn't wearing a bra that day! Can you believe those feminazis?!
Oh, and keep your shovel. I think you use it more than I would.
Oh yes, please go on. Tell us how one's choice in glasses affects their memory and ability to tell the truth.
I'd love to hear more about those widely recognized people who's professional careers you saved with your sage fashion advice, but I respect your top secret clearance and wouldn't want you violating HIPPA, or the your super secret Declared Optician's Registered Knowledge oath.
Sometimes I reply to your screeds just to be sure that if someone wanders in here they know you are often rebutted and an no way represent a majority or even meaningful portion of the locals.
Here, I'll just let this stand so that anyone can read it and see the tortured path that information takes through your mind to get to your opinions.
Ah, you're so kind, magnanimous even ...
The remarks about Newport Beach were directed towards pigtail as we have that location in common as a local reference point.
What is this world coming to? Next we'll be hearing she also wore trousers/pants. The audacity!
We'll have to wait for Kurtster to pass judgement on the rest of her outfit. I know it's not really his profession, but he has been wearing pants for most of his life. He's surely qualified to score her testimony based on the origins of her fibers.
And if that's the opener, I'd love to hear the balance of your argument. Here, I'll even help
Let me know when you are done with it.
I am sure that you see no difference between the two frames. My frame is clearly a rectangular men's frame, very similar to the one Ford is wearing. Your Warby is more square with softer curves. First off Warby Parker is not somewhere one would go if they have any idea of fashion sense. Did you know that the kit they send to you is the same regardless of age or sex ? They just sell glasses that are effectively only prosthetic devices. The Warby frame you picked, I would call unisex. It would be a hell of a lot better on Ford than what she was wearing, but again, I am sure you fail to see the difference as you put up the Warby frame as something nearly identical to the one that Ford is wearing.
Ford's frame is clearly a man's frame made for a huge head. Its wider than her face, sits so low that she can barely see under the top and makes her eyes look beady and close together.
Here is a more refined unisex design properly worn by Kennedy, one of my Libertarian hero's.
First her Tom Ford's ...
and here her Claire Goldsmith's ... Claire is the granddaughter of Oliver Goldsmith who used to be the royal provider of eye wear in Britain.
and back to the beginning of this conversation ...
I sincerely hope you don't help anyone pick out glasses. Clearly your sense of taste is only in your mouth.
Any more questions ?
Oh, and keep your shovel. I think you use it more than I would.
I've been selling glasses to mostly women in a high end boutique setting for well over 20 years. I am the only male on the staff as of late. The other ladies there were mostly horrified that any woman would be wearing glasses like the good professor was wearing, especially in the setting of a Congressional hearing being watched around the world in essence. I am the token conservative there btw. My politics are known, but we generally don't discuss politics.
My job is two fold. One, to do my best to make you see properly. Two, to improve your appearance, not make it worse. And that is the case with anyone. Man, woman, child, rich or poor. I walk up to total strangers everyday and initiate conversations that center around appearance and fashion. If I don't know you, I will ask what you do professionally and is there any kind of restrictions as a result of occupation. Bankers, conservative. Lawyers, do you actually go to court and work trials or do you mostly work in a corporate setting. For trial lawyers, I will do my best to make them look professional, serious and confident. Doctors, try and keep them approachable and friendly looking. Artists and designers. They are my favorite because for the most part they are more open and adventurous. Women, do you wear contacts and are these just going to be for when you get home or do you want to be able to wear them out in public ? And then just ordinary working women who only have one pair of glasses and want to be able to wear them with as many things possible in their wardrobe, to be neutral, yet feminine. And then women who own multiple pairs and recognize that they are an accessory to further enhance what they are wearing for what occasion. What colors do you like, not like ? A persons glasses are a huge part of making a first impression and also to a large extent, establishing your personal brand(ing). And vanity. All levels of vanity and self esteem or lack thereof. In groups with friends or alone. Women of all shapes, sizes, age and means. All done up dressed to kill, sweaty and straight from the gym and everything in between. If I only thought of the stereo typical woman as Barbie, I would be an utter and total failure at what I do. I like women. I get along well with women. I enjoy the company of women. I respect women. I think that I understand women rather well, or know when I clearly don't or shouldn't and just get out of the way. I do not have a stereo typical idea of a woman. I do not say the women's frames are over there, let me know when you have made a selection. I work in a place where our customers are stopped on the street around the world and asked where did you get your glasses ? There are customers who wonder in from my home zone of Newport Beach (I'm in Cleveland, Ohio) now and then. People from here who have migrated or just have a second or third home there and here. I'll surprise them and say Corona del Mar Class of 70 and try and interact on that level with them. Often I end up being dismissed as an unwashed townie, but, eh, I at least give it a shot.
You only get one chance to make a first impression. And this is the case with Prof. Ford. When I watch TV, I cannot help but look at the glasses people are wearing. This is the case with most opticians as I am aware of. I can tell you what kind of glasses Steve Forbes wears, the foreign minister of Russia, Whoopi Goldberg and Karl Rove to name a few. What do Colin Powell, the late senator Howard Metzenbaum and Sarah Palin have in common ? The all wore Kawasaki rimless frames which started the whole rimless craze to be reborn. Senator Metzenbaum got his glasses from us. He was an old family friend of the owner. Sarah Palin has her sharp rectangular lens shape named after her. I know a Tom Ford a mile away. A Versace, a Prada, a Cazal, a Lindberg, a 2.5 in the case of Whoopi and the Russian foreign minister, and IIRC, the main mullah of Iran, a Theo which I wear. The lady researcher, IT whiz on Criminal Minds wears LA Eyeworks. I cannot help it. It is what I do for a living. I look at faces for a living.
Prof. Ford could have done a whole lot more to help herself make a good first impression. This is a case of the messenger getting in the way of the message. I could go on and offer up a profile on her based upon her glasses coupled with her demeanor during her testimony that would be much more right than wrong, imho. But it is not what is needed at this point in time. We are visual creatures and we unconsciously try to adjust what we see and make the images balanced and symmetrical. We all do this whether we are aware of it or not. When that process gets overwhelmed, the messages that we receive get muddled up in the process and is less effectively communicated.
There is no way on this green earth I would have let the good professor out the door wearing those glasses. Whoever sold her those glasses did a grave injustice to her. I recently met a lady who is an organizer, headhunter for the local arm of the DNC and sold her glasses. I wanted her to look her best regardless of politics. Yes, I asked her what she does professionally. I cannot say much more than generalize because of privacy concerns. But I have met and sold glasses to people that you would know of or recognize on TV.
One of the sayings we have around here when we hear people say, but my friends don't like my glasses, we say tongue in cheek, get new friends.
Pardon the long winded thread jack, but I could not let your accusation of me regarding women stand.
Now back to what ever it is that is being discussed.
Sometimes I reply to your screeds just to be sure that if someone wanders in here they know you are often rebutted and an no way represent a majority or even meaningful portion of the locals.
Here, I'll just let this stand so that anyone can read it and see the tortured path that information takes through your mind to get to your opinions.
I guess today makes you feel really safe in attacking and offering your opinions on anyone that doesn't look like your idea of a stereo-typical woman.
Inspite of kcar's sage advice, I'll address this.
I've been selling glasses to mostly women in a high end boutique setting for well over 20 years. I am the only male on the staff as of late. The other ladies there were mostly horrified that any woman would be wearing glasses like the good professor was wearing, especially in the setting of a Congressional hearing being watched around the world in essence. I am the token conservative there btw. My politics are known, but we generally don't discuss politics.
My job is two fold. One, to do my best to make you see properly. Two, to improve your appearance, not make it worse. And that is the case with anyone. Man, woman, child, rich or poor. I walk up to total strangers everyday and initiate conversations that center around appearance and fashion. If I don't know you, I will ask what you do professionally and is there any kind of restrictions as a result of occupation. Bankers, conservative. Lawyers, do you actually go to court and work trials or do you mostly work in a corporate setting. For trial lawyers, I will do my best to make them look professional, serious and confident. Doctors, try and keep them approachable and friendly looking. Artists and designers. They are my favorite because for the most part they are more open and adventurous. Women, do you wear contacts and are these just going to be for when you get home or do you want to be able to wear them out in public ? And then just ordinary working women who only have one pair of glasses and want to be able to wear them with as many things possible in their wardrobe, to be neutral, yet feminine. And then women who own multiple pairs and recognize that they are an accessory to further enhance what they are wearing for what occasion. What colors do you like, not like ? A persons glasses are a huge part of making a first impression and also to a large extent, establishing your personal brand(ing). And vanity. All levels of vanity and self esteem or lack thereof. In groups with friends or alone. Women of all shapes, sizes, age and means. All done up dressed to kill, sweaty and straight from the gym and everything in between. If I only thought of the stereo typical woman as Barbie, I would be an utter and total failure at what I do. I like women. I get along well with women. I enjoy the company of women. I respect women. I think that I understand women rather well, or know when I clearly don't or shouldn't and just get out of the way. I do not have a stereo typical idea of a woman. I do not say the women's frames are over there, let me know when you have made a selection. I work in a place where our customers are stopped on the street around the world and asked where did you get your glasses ? There are customers who wonder in from my home zone of Newport Beach (I'm in Cleveland, Ohio) now and then. People from here who have migrated or just have a second or third home there and here. I'll surprise them and say Corona del Mar Class of 70 and try and interact on that level with them. Often I end up being dismissed as an unwashed townie, but, eh, I at least give it a shot.
You only get one chance to make a first impression. And this is the case with Prof. Ford. When I watch TV, I cannot help but look at the glasses people are wearing. This is the case with most opticians as I am aware of. I can tell you what kind of glasses Steve Forbes wears, the foreign minister of Russia, Whoopi Goldberg and Karl Rove to name a few. What do Colin Powell, the late senator Howard Metzenbaum and Sarah Palin have in common ? The all wore Kawasaki rimless frames which started the whole rimless craze to be reborn. Senator Metzenbaum got his glasses from us. He was an old family friend of the owner. Sarah Palin has her sharp rectangular lens shape named after her. I know a Tom Ford a mile away. A Versace, a Prada, a Cazal, a Lindberg, a 2.5 in the case of Whoopi and the Russian foreign minister, and IIRC, the main mullah of Iran, a Theo which I wear. The lady researcher, IT whiz on Criminal Minds wears LA Eyeworks. I cannot help it. It is what I do for a living. I look at faces for a living.
Prof. Ford could have done a whole lot more to help herself make a good first impression. This is a case of the messenger getting in the way of the message. I could go on and offer up a profile on her based upon her glasses coupled with her demeanor during her testimony that would be much more right than wrong, imho. But it is not what is needed at this point in time. We are visual creatures and we unconsciously try to adjust what we see and make the images balanced and symmetrical. We all do this whether we are aware of it or not. When that process gets overwhelmed, the messages that we receive get muddled up in the process and is less effectively communicated.
There is no way on this green earth I would have let the good professor out the door wearing those glasses. Whoever sold her those glasses did a grave injustice to her. I recently met a lady who is an organizer, headhunter for the local arm of the DNC and sold her glasses. I wanted her to look her best regardless of politics. Yes, I asked her what she does professionally. I cannot say much more than generalize because of privacy concerns. But I have met and sold glasses to people that you would know of or recognize on TV.
One of the sayings we have around here when we hear people say, but my friends don't like my glasses, we say tongue in cheek, get new friends.
Pardon the long winded thread jack, but I could not let your accusation of me regarding women stand.
Now back to what ever it is that is being discussed.
Well for openers that is a man's frame. Not even close to unisex.
About as masculine, ill fitting and ugly a frame as you can deliberately get if you are a woman.
Sadly, this comes a bit too late to help but...
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.
Should we ignore Dr. Ford's courage in speaking out and worth as a human being because her glasses don't look right to you? Perhaps we should have turned the sound off during her testimony and dismissed her entirely because Donald Trump wouldn't grab her pussy these days. She's just a crazy bitch so she doesn't count, right? I mean, those glasses: she's got to have issues.
At some point we all have to face stupid and ugly things we've said or done. You might want to take a long walk and consider who you are at this point, because on the politics-oriented threads of this forum your posts seem filled with fear, hate and willful ignorance.
https://www.warbyparker.com/eyeglasses/women/fletcher/black-matte-eclipse
I really, really wish you were just trolling uns Kurt, but I fear you actually believe this shit. 
