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aflanigan

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Dec 6, 2012 - 7:10am |
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Lazy8 wrote:ScottN wrote:In spades. My occasional Q: Why has not overpopulation been part of the cultural/political dialogue for even longer than global warming! Our planet passed its carrying capacity, in many people's opinion, after WWII. A great majority of the world's problems, imo, have their root cause in over population. That question has been asked for decades, but the people who are most passionate about answering have only wrong answers. Every population alarmist has been wrong on just about everything: long-term growth rates, the ability of food production to keep up, the dystopian futures they predicted. Yes, many people thought that. They were wrong. They're still wrong. the sky hasn't fallen and isn't about to. The more we understand about population dynamics the less we worry about it. The Wikepedia Overpopulation page has a nice discussion and summation of the various arguments and positions put forth by population optimists and pessimists. I for one don't share L8's optimism. Even if we could never approach planetary capacity, getting close enough seems to be bringing on (or will bring on) issues such as food insecurity and others that make this planet inhospitable for way too many people.
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Lazy8

Location: The Gallatin Valley of Montana Gender:  
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Dec 5, 2012 - 4:54pm |
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ScottN wrote:In spades. My occasional Q: Why has not overpopulation been part of the cultural/political dialogue for even longer than global warming! Our planet passed its carrying capacity, in many people's opinion, after WWII. A great majority of the world's problems, imo, have their root cause in over population. That question has been asked for decades, but the people who are most passionate about answering have only wrong answers. Every population alarmist has been wrong on just about everything: long-term growth rates, the ability of food production to keep up, the dystopian futures they predicted. Yes, many people thought that. They were wrong. They're still wrong. the sky hasn't fallen and isn't about to. The more we understand about population dynamics the less we worry about it.
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hippiechick

Location: topsy turvy land Gender:  
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Dec 5, 2012 - 3:40pm |
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ScottN wrote: oldslabsides wrote: I would think a simple examination of population growth statistics would suffice.
In spades. My occasional Q: Why has not overpopulation been part of the cultural/political dialogue for even longer than global warming! Our planet passed its carrying capacity, in many people's opinion, after WWII. A great majority of the world's problems, imo, have their root cause in over population. Who has the most children? Religious people? Bam! Next question!
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Red_Dragon

Location: Gilead 
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Dec 5, 2012 - 3:40pm |
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ScottN wrote:In spades. My occasional Q: Why has not overpopulation been part of the cultural/political dialogue for even longer than global warming! Our planet passed its carrying capacity, in many people's opinion, after WWII. A great majority of the world's problems, imo, have their root cause in over population.
Because we can't talk about this elephant in the room seriously for long before someone decides that anyone advocating population control is advocating a Nazi eugenics program. Yes, the simple fact of the matter is that there are too many humans using/demanding too many resources and continued growth is utterly unsustainable.
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ScottN

Location: Half inch above the K/T boundary Gender:  
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Dec 5, 2012 - 3:36pm |
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oldslabsides wrote: I would think a simple examination of population growth statistics would suffice.
In spades. My occasional Q: Why has not overpopulation been part of the cultural/political dialogue for even longer than global warming! Our planet passed its carrying capacity, in many people's opinion, after WWII. A great majority of the world's problems, imo, have their root cause in over population.
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hippiechick

Location: topsy turvy land Gender:  
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Dec 5, 2012 - 3:32pm |
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miamizsun wrote:i've heard that india is a baby making machine
can anyone confirm this?
Do you know where I can get one? Are they IOS compatible?
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Red_Dragon

Location: Gilead 
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Dec 5, 2012 - 3:27pm |
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miamizsun wrote:i've heard that india is a baby making machine
can anyone confirm this?
I would think a simple examination of population growth statistics would suffice.
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MsJudi

Location: Houston, TX Gender:  
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Dec 5, 2012 - 3:24pm |
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miamizsun wrote:i've heard that india is a baby making machine
can anyone confirm this?
Yes. Yes, I can. I've visited the factory.
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miamizsun

Location: (3283.1 Miles SE of RP) Gender:  
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Dec 5, 2012 - 3:03pm |
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i've heard that india is a baby making machine
can anyone confirm this?
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Manbird

Location: La Villa Toscana Gender:  
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Dec 5, 2012 - 10:56am |
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kurtster wrote: thanks - I just put disc 1 in my NF Q - also disc 1 of The Invaders.
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ScottFromWyoming

Location: Powell Gender:  
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Dec 5, 2012 - 10:54am |
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kurtster wrote:  Wow.
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MsJudi

Location: Houston, TX Gender:  
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Dec 5, 2012 - 10:39am |
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shmgeggie wrote:All we need to do is change the human genome to make us all really really tiny, like a foot tall or so. Then we'd use way fewer resources. Cats will be a problem, though. My brilliant plan might just work if we all carry laser pointers to distract the cats.
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kurtster

Location: where fear is not a virtue Gender:  
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Dec 5, 2012 - 10:39am |
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shmgeggie wrote:All we need to do is change the human genome to make us all really really tiny, like a foot tall or so. Then we'd use way fewer resources. Cats will be a problem, though. My brilliant plan might just work if we all carry laser pointers to distract the cats.
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RASPUTIN

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Dec 5, 2012 - 10:35am |
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JrzyTmata wrote: GENIUS! Then there would be the lawsuits.
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pigtail

Location: Southern California Gender:  
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Dec 5, 2012 - 10:32am |
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JrzyTmata wrote: GENIUS! Agreed.......lol
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Dec 5, 2012 - 10:28am |
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shmgeggie wrote:All we need to do is change the human genome to make us all really really tiny, like a foot tall or so. Then we'd use way fewer resources. Cats will be a problem, though. My brilliant plan might just work if we all carry laser pointers to distract the cats.
 GENIUS!
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shmgeggie

Location: Spokane, WA Gender:  
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Dec 5, 2012 - 10:25am |
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All we need to do is change the human genome to make us all really really tiny, like a foot tall or so. Then we'd use way fewer resources. Cats will be a problem, though. My brilliant plan might just work if we all carry laser pointers to distract the cats.
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MsJudi

Location: Houston, TX Gender:  
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Dec 5, 2012 - 9:50am |
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aflanigan wrote:
No, I'm not an eugenicist. I think eugenics is a misguided philosophy based on dubious science and prone to serious ethical abuses. I would be very wary of governments, or politicians, promoting policies intended to advance the human race through selective breeding.
Telling someone you don't even know to encourage their child to adopt rather than have a child is beyond your prevue, IMO. That's what I was referring to. You're the one who (IMO, ridiculously) brought eugenics into this. I hope one day that my daughter will choose to have children, too. Eugenics has zero to do with that hope. Being a grandmother has everything to do with it. And you, dear Rpeep, have zip, nada, bubpkis to do with it, ever.
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aflanigan

Location: At Sea Gender:  
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Dec 5, 2012 - 9:45am |
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MsJudi wrote: Seriously? You're wise enough to get all up in people's very private choices like this?
No, I'm not an eugenicist. I think eugenics is a misguided philosophy based on dubious science and prone to serious ethical abuses. I would be very wary of governments, or politicians, promoting policies intended to advance the human race through selective breeding.
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aflanigan

Location: At Sea Gender:  
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Dec 5, 2012 - 9:40am |
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hippiechick wrote: I encourage my daughter to do what makes her happy
That's probably the wisest course.
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