[ ]   [ ]   [ ]                        [ ]      [ ]   [ ]

Things You Thought Today - Red_Dragon - Dec 10, 2025 - 7:00pm
 
Mini Meetups - Post Here! - Coaxial - Dec 10, 2025 - 6:52pm
 
Other Medical Stuff - Coaxial - Dec 10, 2025 - 6:47pm
 
Trump - Steely_D - Dec 10, 2025 - 6:09pm
 
Apple IOS app - jimmyvail - Dec 10, 2025 - 5:36pm
 
CarPlay lost with v9 of the App - Red_Dragon - Dec 10, 2025 - 5:32pm
 
Trump Lies™ - ScottFromWyoming - Dec 10, 2025 - 4:44pm
 
Democratic Party - Red_Dragon - Dec 10, 2025 - 4:17pm
 
USA! USA! USA! - R_P - Dec 10, 2025 - 3:41pm
 
Cryptic Posts - Leave Them Guessing - SeriousLee - Dec 10, 2025 - 3:36pm
 
Economix - R_P - Dec 10, 2025 - 2:08pm
 
Bug Reports & Feature Requests - dischuckin - Dec 10, 2025 - 1:23pm
 
What Are You Going To Do Today? - haresfur - Dec 10, 2025 - 12:55pm
 
Happy holidays, everyone! - haresfur - Dec 10, 2025 - 12:51pm
 
What are you listening to now? - Steely_D - Dec 10, 2025 - 12:49pm
 
The Obituary Page - SeriousLee - Dec 10, 2025 - 12:48pm
 
Name My Band - SeriousLee - Dec 10, 2025 - 12:08pm
 
Get the old app back - Arislan - Dec 10, 2025 - 11:42am
 
NYTimes Connections - islander - Dec 10, 2025 - 10:26am
 
Wordle - daily game - islander - Dec 10, 2025 - 10:21am
 
No more Wiki link - KPC1 - Dec 10, 2025 - 10:19am
 
Best Song Comments. - ScottFromWyoming - Dec 10, 2025 - 10:15am
 
December 2025 Photo Theme: STREET SCENES - Alchemist - Dec 10, 2025 - 9:08am
 
Today in History - Red_Dragon - Dec 10, 2025 - 9:03am
 
Favorite Quotes - oldviolin - Dec 10, 2025 - 8:58am
 
NY Times Strands - GeneP59 - Dec 10, 2025 - 8:36am
 
Radio Paradise Comments - GeneP59 - Dec 10, 2025 - 8:12am
 
Can we have the old app (8.3.0) back please? - jimmpypowder - Dec 10, 2025 - 5:47am
 
ScottFromWyoming - geoff_morphini - Dec 9, 2025 - 9:47pm
 
• • • The Once-a-Day • • •  - Manbird - Dec 9, 2025 - 8:55pm
 
Shall We Dance? - oldviolin - Dec 9, 2025 - 4:39pm
 
Propaganda - R_P - Dec 9, 2025 - 4:29pm
 
Spambags on RP - Steely_D - Dec 9, 2025 - 4:03pm
 
Climate Change - R_P - Dec 9, 2025 - 3:54pm
 
Israel - R_P - Dec 9, 2025 - 3:35pm
 
Hello from Germany - lovehonk - Dec 9, 2025 - 2:59pm
 
M.A.G.A. - R_P - Dec 9, 2025 - 2:35pm
 
Doobie Doobage Doo - mannixj - Dec 9, 2025 - 2:07pm
 
Live Music - Honnie - Dec 9, 2025 - 1:35pm
 
favorite love songs - Honnie - Dec 9, 2025 - 1:16pm
 
Electronic Music - lovehonk - Dec 9, 2025 - 1:05pm
 
Prog Rockers Anonymous - lovehonk - Dec 9, 2025 - 12:44pm
 
ONE WORD - lovehonk - Dec 9, 2025 - 12:44pm
 
Cloud Gazing (Photos You've Taken) - joxmox - Dec 9, 2025 - 12:04pm
 
Play the Blues - joxmox - Dec 9, 2025 - 11:59am
 
NASA & other news from space - Red_Dragon - Dec 9, 2025 - 11:32am
 
Radio Paradise NFL Pick'em Group - rgio - Dec 9, 2025 - 11:21am
 
SCOTUS - Red_Dragon - Dec 9, 2025 - 11:17am
 
Regarding Birds - Proclivities - Dec 9, 2025 - 9:44am
 
Country Up The Bumpkin - Red_Dragon - Dec 9, 2025 - 8:21am
 
Covers! - miamizsun - Dec 9, 2025 - 6:58am
 
The All-Things Beatles Forum - miamizsun - Dec 9, 2025 - 6:50am
 
Mixtape Culture Club - miamizsun - Dec 9, 2025 - 6:45am
 
260,000 Posts in one thread? - SeriousLee - Dec 8, 2025 - 10:45pm
 
Outstanding Covers - kurtster - Dec 8, 2025 - 9:07pm
 
What Do You Want From RP? - TChern - Dec 8, 2025 - 7:55pm
 
Upcoming concerts or shows you can't wait to see - ScottFromWyoming - Dec 8, 2025 - 2:38pm
 
Downloads keep repeating. - chuck.h.johnson - Dec 8, 2025 - 12:47pm
 
Another stellar day of 8s, 9s and 10s ! - oldviolin - Dec 8, 2025 - 12:43pm
 
Cached Playlist Repetitive - kellywitty - Dec 8, 2025 - 12:35pm
 
Mexico - oldviolin - Dec 8, 2025 - 12:26pm
 
Vinyl Only Spin List - SeriousLee - Dec 8, 2025 - 10:45am
 
Job Postings (Keep it real) - black321 - Dec 8, 2025 - 7:46am
 
Choose download quality? - jimmyvail - Dec 8, 2025 - 3:41am
 
Random Solutions - Random Advice - oldviolin - Dec 8, 2025 - 12:11am
 
Song with London in the lyrics - Jlorenzi - Dec 7, 2025 - 7:55pm
 
the Todd Rundgren topic - Steely_D - Dec 7, 2025 - 3:28pm
 
Is there any GOOD news out there? - SeriousLee - Dec 7, 2025 - 3:11pm
 
YouTube: Music-Videos - Honnie - Dec 7, 2025 - 1:24pm
 
ICE - R_P - Dec 7, 2025 - 1:19pm
 
Anti-War - R_P - Dec 7, 2025 - 12:57pm
 
Ukraine - R_P - Dec 7, 2025 - 12:31pm
 
Answers Only - Honnie - Dec 7, 2025 - 11:31am
 
Films you're excited about. - joxmox - Dec 7, 2025 - 10:48am
 
Apple Watch App gone!?! - jimmpypowder - Dec 7, 2025 - 5:23am
 
Index » Regional/Local » Africa/Middle East » Judea and Samaria
Post to this Topic
miamizsun

miamizsun Avatar

Location: (3283.1 Miles SE of RP)
Gender: Male


Posted: Jan 10, 2012 - 4:51am

 Rob_in_Karnei wrote:
Judea and Samaria is the place to be....so glad to be living on the same piece of land my ancestors have been living on since Abraham first ventured here in 2500 BC.

We live across the street from this amazing "choorsha" which is like a park. It is an area of about 40 dunams of land that has been recently renovated with paths and lighting. It has trees, grasses, even the occasional wild crop remaining from generations past, and of course the beautiful wild flowers that are so common in this part of the Holy Land.  In this magnificent area is this thing called a 'GAT" which is an ancient olive press. Imagine, centuries and millenia ago people were crushing olives to make oil and here I am no more than 30 meters from that exact spot.

Sometimes I walk through and imagine what it must have been like back then. First I chose a time period so I can imagine what the houses or thrown together living quarters looked like. Then I try and imagine the types of clothing the people wore. It takes quite a bit of time and a huge dose of imagination to conjure it all up because these were individuals, siblings, parents, cousins, neighbors in fact a whole tribe. Putting clothes on them and tools in their hands makes them come alive. Having them survive on this hilltop amongst the various forces of weather and seasons is a real treat. I get to use my wild cat Dracula as a model of what it must have been like for these Children of Israel  to survive the elements. Watching Dracula drenched after a rainfall is quite a sight. He hides beneath the green growth but still winds up wet...what those ancestors of ours must have gone through is something else.

But they lived here. At times they must have had great days. Smiling, loving, laughing, enjoying the fruits of their labor. Kids running and playing. Dogs, cats and even wild animals to make their lives difficult. Season after season they lived in peace and tranquility in a paradise that supported their lifestyle. Nights around the fire, stories of their ancestors. A good piece of meat on the fire and life seemed to be as good as it got.

Then the ugliness. The attack that would inevitably come from down the path and wreak havoc. Delivering suffering and death and even the end of the civilization on occasion. Even then, fear and greediness were never far from here. Always something to fear. Thats this land. Was, is, and might always be.

What would really be nice is to able to share it with anyone who wants to live here in peace and prosperity. But that is not going to happen any time soon because its just so hard for people to feel good about other people feeling good. But its been a dream of many for a long time, so who knows, maybe, with the help of the creator of the universe, it can happen sometime soon.

I took a ride down to Jerusalem about a month ago through the backroads and it struck me how much space there is out here for development or at least for people to live in peace one with another. And that's only what I saw from the window of my car so its limited to about 500 meters or so from the car. There are so many hilltops that can be used to generate eco-friendly energy. There are also lots of flat places to grow food, thousands of hillsides to let sheep and goats wander around on....wow...its just incredible that the plenty here is crowded out by the "whats in it for me?"

But it is just my insight into things. Others see it as a continuous battle ground. A place where you can say I stole this and where I can say you are a murderer. Its been like that for so long that it seems like the natural way of things.

But today is all we have so I'll enjoy what I can while I can. Maybe you can smile too and that will be enough.

Peace.


 
rob, i wish everyone could share your vision

unfortunately things get politicized and force, violence and aggression are substituted for, voluntarism, negotiation and the freedom to choose

just keep having that "conversation" and point out that peace and prosperity is the ticket {#Good-vibes}
JCF

JCF Avatar



Posted: Jan 9, 2012 - 9:34pm

You conjured such lovely,peaceful scenes in my mind,that it was like being a child again reading and for the first time really understanding what the author was painting.
  Thank you for sharing in such a gentle way.      Shalom.
hippiechick

hippiechick Avatar

Location: topsy turvy land
Gender: Female


Posted: Jan 9, 2012 - 8:08am

Rob, did you make aliyah?
cc_rider

cc_rider Avatar

Location: Bastrop
Gender: Male


Posted: Jan 9, 2012 - 8:06am

Thanks Rob. Maybe we need people to move beyond their rigid ideologies and just try to enjoy what we have. Over there in the Middle East, too.
hippiechick

hippiechick Avatar

Location: topsy turvy land
Gender: Female


Posted: Jan 9, 2012 - 6:04am

Thanks for your thoughts Rob. Peace to you and your people.
Rob_in_Karnei

Rob_in_Karnei Avatar



Posted: Jan 9, 2012 - 1:32am

Judea and Samaria is the place to be....so glad to be living on the same piece of land my ancestors have been living on since Abraham first ventured here in 2500 BC.

We live across the street from this amazing "choorsha" which is like a park. It is an area of about 40 dunams of land that has been recently renovated with paths and lighting. It has trees, grasses, even the occasional wild crop remaining from generations past, and of course the beautiful wild flowers that are so common in this part of the Holy Land.  In this magnificent area is this thing called a 'GAT" which is an ancient olive press. Imagine, centuries and millenia ago people were crushing olives to make oil and here I am no more than 30 meters from that exact spot.

Sometimes I walk through and imagine what it must have been like back then. First I chose a time period so I can imagine what the houses or thrown together living quarters looked like. Then I try and imagine the types of clothing the people wore. It takes quite a bit of time and a huge dose of imagination to conjure it all up because these were individuals, siblings, parents, cousins, neighbors in fact a whole tribe. Putting clothes on them and tools in their hands makes them come alive. Having them survive on this hilltop amongst the various forces of weather and seasons is a real treat. I get to use my wild cat Dracula as a model of what it must have been like for these Children of Israel  to survive the elements. Watching Dracula drenched after a rainfall is quite a sight. He hides beneath the green growth but still winds up wet...what those ancestors of ours must have gone through is something else.

But they lived here. At times they must have had great days. Smiling, loving, laughing, enjoying the fruits of their labor. Kids running and playing. Dogs, cats and even wild animals to make their lives difficult. Season after season they lived in peace and tranquility in a paradise that supported their lifestyle. Nights around the fire, stories of their ancestors. A good piece of meat on the fire and life seemed to be as good as it got.

Then the ugliness. The attack that would inevitably come from down the path and wreak havoc. Delivering suffering and death and even the end of the civilization on occasion. Even then, fear and greediness were never far from here. Always something to fear. Thats this land. Was, is, and might always be.

What would really be nice is to able to share it with anyone who wants to live here in peace and prosperity. But that is not going to happen any time soon because its just so hard for people to feel good about other people feeling good. But its been a dream of many for a long time, so who knows, maybe, with the help of the creator of the universe, it can happen sometime soon.

I took a ride down to Jerusalem about a month ago through the backroads and it struck me how much space there is out here for development or at least for people to live in peace one with another. And that's only what I saw from the window of my car so its limited to about 500 meters or so from the car. There are so many hilltops that can be used to generate eco-friendly energy. There are also lots of flat places to grow food, thousands of hillsides to let sheep and goats wander around on....wow...its just incredible that the plenty here is crowded out by the "whats in it for me?"

But it is just my insight into things. Others see it as a continuous battle ground. A place where you can say I stole this and where I can say you are a murderer. Its been like that for so long that it seems like the natural way of things.

But today is all we have so I'll enjoy what I can while I can. Maybe you can smile too and that will be enough.

Peace.