Zep wrote:


I means I can use my car's controls to play music more easily and safely by integrating with the RP app. As long as my phone is paired to the car (wired, in my case), I don't need to look at my phone, unlock it, or touch it at all to start a playlist, skip a track, change view between my navigation app and the Now Playing screen, etc.

The old app used to do this—it's one feature that was broken with the new one, but I'm very pleased to see it back and working again. Using the pre-downloaded cache is especially useful while driving, especially on long trips with spotty reception.

The only reason I still need to mess with my phone while driving is if I want to rate a track. The old app never mastered this either, but I hope the new one will get there eventually.

As far as the Car Play app, it runs silently in the background—basically just a transparent back end to integrate with the car's entertainment system. I see icons on my car's screen for Google Maps, RP, and the actual phone app and can easily switch/interact with them because they are designed to do that. Different car models will obviously have different levels of capabilities when it comes to this. Mine's about five years old, and I'm sure improvements have been made since then.

 czar wrote:

So what does that mean? You can play your downloaded (buffered ahead?) music through another player? (In your case Car Play)

I'm using PowerAmp and it would be nice to have one player because sometimes both of them kick in and it gets pretty weird in the car. 

I had a chance to try out version 9.3 today, and was pleasantly surprised to discover I could navigate to my downloaded cache using Car Play. Thank you, and keep up the good progress!

buddy for president

 ednazarko wrote:
I've been on all the latest upgrades including the new one & I am not experiencing any of the issues you're reporting. Everything works like a charm on my iPhone running iOS 26.4.2 and RP v9.2.  Same on my wife's iPhone. I rebooted our phones and logged out/in of our RP accounts. Absolutely no issues.  Carplay included.  Just sayin'....

 ednazarko wrote:
Also. I just installed the upgrade to the iOS version of the app that's labeled as fixing the crash on startup problem. It does not. I even did a full hard reboot of the phone to flush any residual issues with the container that the app had been running in. It also looks like it once again loses track of all downloads (from what I saw in the seconds before it crashed.) 

Whoever is doing the dev work on the app is struggling mightily, and from my years of experience in managing techies, painfully trying to get this right. How about rolling back to the old version to give some space for that to get figured out while allowing your listeners to continue as listeners?

FYI. While the app wasn't crashing on startup if I started it while in CarPlay, it wouldn't let me play downloads (I have six big network dead spots in the first 15 minutes of drive from where I live... live streaming is a terrible thing for me.) And. While it works live streaming, it STILL blows up and crashes randomly. On a 3.5 hour drive two days ago, it crashed twice, and each time it didn't just crash (probably killed by iOS) but iOS was worried enough that it restarted CarPlay all together, which is a very rare event.

I am now having to listen to Qobuz downloaded playlists on long drives so I can have a reliable stream of music, because I can't have the nav map getting crashed with the RP app in the middle of navigating to someplace.

 hansotten wrote:

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE (in James Brown's voice) let us have the old app back. There's no shame in a rollback - I ran IT organizations for years and have seen many of the biggest software companies in the world do this many times when an update was just impossible to debug, and have ordered this myself when work my team did was behaving like the current version of the app. I really liked the super simple low graphics UI. I also liked the rock solid reliability.

FYI. The crashes on startup for iOS are characteristic of a memory leak in the application. iOS puts every app in its own container, and unless you force quit an application and completely reboot your phone, a memory leak stays alive in the container, and when iOS detects it, it kills the container. I'm over simplifying a bit here, but I've sat through a couple non-disclosure protected briefings on iOS, and what's happening now with the crashes on startup is very much like something they talked about from a security threat perspective. iOS does not like something that the new RP app is doing, and while in general it lets an app crap all over itself inside its own container, it will not tolerate certain types of problems.

 kcar wrote:

It looks like Radio Paradise cannot/does not want/does not care to improve the current Android app to a level that we can forget the version 8.3.0 . In fact nothing has improved. The visual Trippy is so ugly. 
I rarely listen on my home media system alas.

 ednazarko wrote:

I know what you mean. I used the iOS app this morning and it was working OK but somehow it had logged me out of my account and I couldn't log back in. Then the songs started cutting off and skipping. Finally the app quit spontaneously. 

This seems to be a rough and painful beta period...

I quite like the new app.  Bunch of Luddites on here.   I tried to use the rating feature but there was no slider, upon closing the rating screen the app updated and, lo and behold, a slider for rating song appeared!  Nice one.

One issue I'm having (although it may be a feature now baked into the app) is it just shuts down after x amount of hours played.  Not a big deal as my iPad is sat next to me but I'm wondering if that is something coded into the new app or a bug.

 ednazarko wrote:
Where humans work -
not companies, not societies -
no capital no algorithm
changes can come from all in- and outsides.

Humans can die
All off a sudden.

That is what it means to be human. We're all fleeting.
And sometimes humans do not wish to explain themselves
cause the older ye get the boulder we all may wet.

You lost me with the new app. Cut me off. Threw me out. Tossed me overboard. The new app told me I don’t matter. Nor do several large RP listener base markets where IOS and CarPlay dominate the market. 

I’m missing you a lot, Please let me know when you want me back. 

The new app made me listen much and much less to Radio paradise. 
The web interface is stlil fine, the Android seems stuck at the failure level of 9.01 with no progress on improvements. Can we have the old app back please?  

I realise there is new feature that I really like: "Live" syncs the current channel. A single tap to sync is nice. 

In addition, I really like the newly added "listening history". Can you use the rating display from this view for the now playing view please? 

Can you explain the purpose behind the 'share' button? 

It may be premature to give feedback on the new iOS app, as I know it was not intended for widespread release. However, since I inadvertently upgraded and can compare it directly to the Android app, I thought I'd provide feedback on the differences, in the hope that you will find it useful. 

• On start up, the Android app supports the play on launch option, and starts the previously selected channel immediately. I love this feature - one tap and I have music. In contrast the new iOS app does not remember the previously playing channel and I have to select it to start playing. 
• The Android app play view makes it really simple to see the current rating that I set, but does not show the RP bar chart rating, which the old iOS app shows. I like the previous iOS rating design as it made it really easy to see both my rating and the overall RP ratings.
• The Android app rating interface makes it easy with a single tap to set the rating, whereas the new rating interface requires a slider - much more fiddly .
• I like the new iOS app interface of swipe up to see the lyrics and the listening history. 
• However, I have lost the comments (which I really really enjoy - this is a serious omission!), and the 'about the artist'. 
• If the swipe up (or sideways) can also bring up comments and about artist, that would be a nice improvement. 
• This is a minor issue, but I like the orange/black branding of RP, and I'm not yet used to the purple of the new app. Probably something I can get used to, but initially I did not recognise the app icon and thought I'd lost the RP app. 
• This is a bug, not a design issue: the 'playing' progress bar travels beyond the 'waveform'
• The new app has lost the button to select AirPlay. On iOS AirPlay is how I listen, so this is a significant inconvenience. 

I've long been in the mobile app software development industry, so I know the trials and tribulations. Good luck!

 Zep wrote:


Hold onto what you've got! I know there were some bugs here and there during that time, but you're much better off with the old version—avoid upgrading if at all possible. I was forced into it when I got a new phone. The thing is, I would have happily signed up to be a beta tester, left some constructive feedback, then reverted to the old version if anyone had offered that choice. But now I'm just stuck with this thing that never should have made it out of the test lab. We were promised an update last week, but haven't seen it yet. I think we all wish we could just have the previous version back in the App Store until the new app is ready for its close-up.

Oh my, I just realized I am on version 4.11.2 gp. "Radio Paradise 2024"

Has it really been that many releases since? 

 jasondavidmills wrote:

Placeholder is a good description for the current release. It was intended to go out to 1% or 2% of you, but somehow ended up being many more than that, and is very much a work in progress. And there *will* be progress, as soon as possible. Our apologies for the premature release.

So I have 9.0.1 now on my phone, it updated to this. I do hope this is the placeholder app because I really don't like it. I don't like it at all. I use RP every single day and I would rather just have the old app back. I saw maybe this is a placeholder and something good will come, but overall - not thrilled. The blocky white buttons, the slide rule for the likes, even the super basic redesigned widget that doesn't match the logo - assuming and having some faith his is a temp fix placeholder. 

So, I don’t see the app on Apple CarPlay screen if my car, but if I’m connected by Bluetooth to my car (Audi Q5), and control the RP app from the phone itself, it plays fine over my car speakers. I even see what’s playing on my instrument cluster where the speedometer is, but doesn’t show up on the Apple CarPlay list of apps. Anyway, looking forward to fix, but at least I can play the music.