My comment was meant to show that Trump immediately jumped to blaming Biden — a political response. Then he gratuitously added comments about Somalians in Minnesota to add to anti-immigrant fervor. Yes, I am aware of allegations of fraud and that Trump announced Friday that he wanted Temporary Protected Status immediately revoked for Somalians in Minnesota. This is totally unrelated to the shootings of the National Guard members in DC by a native Afghan who had been living in Washington State. There are about 37,000 people of Somalian descent living in Minnesota and about 500 on TP status.
The bottom line is if Trump was not POTUS, this would not have happened.
There would be no National Guard in DC to be shot at if Trump was not POTUS.
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Nov 27, 2025 - 8:23am
kurtster wrote:
And then what happened ?
Are you aware of the newly discovered welfare fraud regarding Somalians living in Minnesota ? No ?
Doesn't matter.
Back to it is all Trump's fault. It always is. That is all that matters.
Happy T Day.
My comment was meant to show that Trump immediately jumped to blaming Biden â a political response. Then he gratuitously added comments about Somalians in Minnesota to add to anti-immigrant fervor. Yes, I am aware of allegations of fraud and that Trump announced Friday that he wanted Temporary Protected Status immediately revoked for Somalians in Minnesota. This is totally unrelated to the shootings of the National Guard members in DC by a native Afghan who had been living in Washington State. There are about 37,000 people of Somalian descent living in Minnesota and about 500 on TP status.
In the immediate aftermath of those shootings, Trump publicly blamed Biden. And, for some reason, he also took the opportunity to assail Somalians living in Minnesota.
And then what happened ?
Are you aware of the newly discovered welfare fraud regarding Somalians living in Minnesota ? No ?
Doesn't matter.
Back to it is all Trump's fault. It always is. That is all that matters.
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Nov 27, 2025 - 8:07am
kurtster wrote:
Yep. It's Trump's fault.
Case closed.
Next.
In the immediate aftermath of those shootings, Trump publicly blamed Biden. And, for some reason, he also took the opportunity to assail Somalians living in Minnesota.
Most likely reason that the Afghani drove across country and killed these two innocent National Guard? The USA reneged on its promise to protect them from the Taliban. There is no blaming the previous administration for this. The man came in during it, yes, but the current president authorized his stay and then…
“In July, the Trump administration withdrew humanitarian protections for Afghans who had resettled in the United States, citing Afghanistan’s “improved security situation, and its stabilizing economy.”
But many Afghans would see the situation in their country, now under Taliban rule, differently.”
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Nov 27, 2025 - 7:00am
Most likely reason that the Afghani drove across country and killed these two innocent National Guard? The USA reneged on its promise to protect them from the Taliban. There is no blaming the previous administration for this. The man came in during it, yes, but the current president authorized his stay and thenâ¦
âIn July, the Trump administration withdrew humanitarian protections for Afghans who had resettled in the United States, citing Afghanistanâs âimproved security situation, and its stabilizing economy.â
But many Afghans would see the situation in their country, now under Taliban rule, differently.â
While visiting (and I know that visiting is not a way to really completely understand the situation) my better half and I were glad to see the MÄori culture absorbed into politics and more, but it was also painfully obvious they were separate. This couldâve just been projection on our part, but it was still something we independently noticed and mentioned to each other.
Always hard for differing groups to get along, and yet diverse groups tend to do better. Marriage isn't easy either, but we keep choosing it because the benefits outweigh the battles.
Steely_D wrote:
and I lost track of why this is in the Trump forum
debate evolution/correlation to real world -> CRT->reparations-> can't do that -> can too -> threadjack! You've here a while, you shouldn't be surprised... big head and all.
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Nov 26, 2025 - 10:15am
NoEnzLefttoSplit wrote:
I think that is indeed the way forward. Grievances need to be aired and addressed but not nurtured. New Zealand established the Waitangi Tribunal in 1975 to redress Maori grievances and made some truly significant findings/recommendations.
At the same time, a nation needs to understand that diversity is a good thing and enriches a country. All too often differences get swept away by the majority and we are all left the poorer for it.
A large portion of white NZ would love to wipe out Maori identity (and their rights under the Treaty) by claiming we are all one nation. That is NOT the way forward.
While visiting (and I know that visiting is not a way to really completely understand the situation) my better half and I were glad to see the MÄori culture absorbed into politics and more, but it was also painfully obvious they were separate. This couldâve just been projection on our part, but it was still something we independently noticed and mentioned to each other.
and I lost track of why this is in the Trump forum
And this is just the US. World wide it happens all the time too. Satisfied is the wrong metric. Able to move forward is what we are after.
This aligns with what I was saying. I canât imagine the black culture, no matter how many checks are written, will ever say that itâs enough or that black/white relations are now normalized.
And this is just the US. World wide it happens all the time too. Satisfied is the wrong metric. Able to move forward is what we are after.
I think that is indeed the way forward. Grievances need to be aired and addressed but not nurtured. New Zealand established the Waitangi Tribunal in 1975 to redress Maori grievances and made some truly significant findings/recommendations.
At the same time, a nation needs to understand that diversity is a good thing and enriches a country. All too often differences get swept away by the majority and we are all left the poorer for it.
A large portion of white NZ would love to wipe out Maori identity (and their rights under the Treaty) by claiming we are all one nation. That is NOT the way forward.
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Nov 26, 2025 - 8:45am
black321 wrote:
Reparations are a really bad idea. A dark deep rabbit hole. And how do we calculate what is owed and what has already been paid, wasted or otherwise?
Obviously generation wealth helps, but the best way to level the generational playing field is to invest in better education in poor neighborhoods, beyond just the classroom as the parents can often be worse than no help in bringing up children. That is the best way of weeding out racism, by giving the victims the tools to fight back.
Many of us had parents or grandparents who came from poverty and became people who went to college or a learned a trade, bought homes, generated wealth...
There's no logical, believable future where someone gets some amount of reparations and then an entire culture walks away from the topic, satisfied.
